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Now in Florida
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I don't understand the whole "Gotta win my own state" thing that Kasich and Rubio have got going on. I could see losing it being a big deal and a commentary on your candidacy. But winning it matters not a bit if you can't win anywhere else.

Let's say Rubio somehow wins Florida....I still don't see any rational donor thinking further funds would be wisely invested with Rubio. Same with Kasich and Ohio.
 
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Winning their own states just makes the excuses for them to stay in until the convention easier to peddle to the public.
 
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^^^ that, and they can also supposedly make the claim that they can deliver Ohio or Florida in the general election, which are considered must-win swing states with large electoral numbers. Thus "you want me on the ticket so we can get FL/OH in the win column come November."

Debatable if they could actually do that.
 
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Supposedly one cannot get elected president without Ohio and Florida.
 
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Good words from Senator Perdue (GA):

http://dailysignal.com/2016/03...s-is-losing-control/

Senator Perdue:

The Washington political establishment has hit the panic button. Not because they are afraid of any one individual or candidate, but because they are afraid of losing their own political power.

Politicians pay more attention to special interests groups and powerful lobbyists writing checks to their next campaign, than listening to the people back home who sent them here in the first place.

This dangerous power vacuum has fueled frustration and created an entirely new breed of disenfranchised voters who are fed up with the status quo. These are real people, their anger is palpable, and it’s not going away anytime soon.

A recent survey of likely Republican primary voters showed that 86 percent believe that “people like me don’t have any say about what the government does.” Another recent exit poll in my home state of Georgia showed six in ten Republicans felt “betrayed” by their political party.

This sentiment is something I heard countless times during my campaign for the United States Senate just over a short year ago. It is what pulled me to get involved personally to try and make a difference. But this is not just happening in Georgia. People across America are angry, frustrated, and scared because they feel like Washington is not listening to them.

There is now a disconnect between the Washington political class and everybody else—the insiders versus the outsiders.

When most Americans look at the federal government, all they see are years of failed policies that have made life harder for them and their families, and a political class that is well connected and uninterested in giving them a say in how to right the ship.

People are still hurting, and they are weary of Washington’s penchant for business as usual. Georgians sent me—someone who had never run for elected office—to the United States Senate to try and do something about it and change the system. In state after state this year, voters have voiced support for presidential candidates who are not part of the political class.

This is a growing movement, and it is bigger than any one candidate or election victory. Unless the political establishment is willing to learn from the anger felt by millions of Americans who feel left behind, this will not end in November.

True to form, though, political elites prefer tearing down individuals to understanding what created this movement. This movement of Americans wants nothing to do with Washington, and neither endorsements nor criticisms are going to change that.

No matter who our Republican presidential nominee is at the end of this process, one thing is clear, we cannot allow Democrats to double down on the failed policies of the last seven years.

A better course of action would be a candid examination of what can be done to regain the trust of the American people. Let’s start with simply listening to them.

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pretty good stuff

may not a get xmas card from Mitch
 
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Winning their own states just makes the excuses for them to stay in until the convention easier to peddle to the public.


This. Rubio and Kasich's only path to the presidency right now is a brokered convention. They are hoping Trump doesn't get the magic number (1237) of delegates and then fight it out in Cleveland in July.
 
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Like I said, fucking spoiled children.


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Over a week ago, when the pundits and candidates were saying Kasich and Rubio would likely win their home states, I said to the wife "uh, no. Kasich and Rubio will come in second in their states, Trump will come in first." Looks like I was right the way this is trending. Rubio looks particularly pathetic in Florida. Roll Eyes
 
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If they pulled some backdoor shit like that, it would be suicide for the Republican party. They've already got one foot in the grave.


If they pull any shenanigans, I'm OUT.

Trump is liable to go third party and STILL win!


 
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Over a week ago, when the pundits and candidates were saying Kasich and Rubio would likely win their home states, I said to the wife "uh, no. Kasich and Rubio will come in second in their states, Trump will come in first." Looks like I was right the way this is trending. Rubio looks particularly pathetic in Florida. Roll Eyes


Shit, Rubio might even come in third in Florida. Truly pathetic.


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Cumberland County Sheriff's Office investigators said Monday that they are considering filing a charge of inciting a riot against Trump.

http://www.wral.com/presidenti...#VsZ9zWQ7o8qKwS3K.99
 
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That NC sheriff is a Democrat goon. Fuck him. Those charges will go nowhere.


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Cumberland County Sheriff's Office investigators said Monday that they are considering filing a charge of inciting a riot against Trump.

http://www.wral.com/presidenti...#VsZ9zWQ7o8qKwS3K.99



Hahahaha! I bet the DA is praying that he won't.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/l...charges-fayettevilla

After a Monday report from local network WRAL that North Carolina law enforcement were considering charges against Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump for "inciting a riot," a police spokesman said that was not the case.

Cumberland County Sheriff's Office spokesman Sgt. Sean Swain told the Daily Beast "we would have made the charges by now" if Trump's actions violated state law.

Swain also told the site Sheriff Kevin Joyce said on local radio Monday that police "had looked at" charging Trump after a protester was punched at his Fayetteville, North Carolina rally.

Local news site WRAL had earlier reported the sheriff's office was weighing whether to charge Trump in connection with the incident, where John McGraw, 78, allegedly sucker-punched a black protester being escorted out of the venue.

McGraw was criminally charged with assault, battery, and disorderly conduct in the incident.

The Cumberland County Sheriff's Office did not respond to TPM requests for comment.
 
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http://www.fox19.com/story/314...-different-off-stage

In a not-so-veiled shot at Donald Trump, House Speaker Paul Ryan says candidates must accept responsibility for clashes that occur at their campaign events and should never condone or encourage violence.

The Wisconsin Republican did not mention the GOP's leading presidential candidate by name in an interview Monday on WRJN in Racine, Wisconsin.

But three days after Trump supporters and opposing demonstrators fought at a Chicago event that the billionaire TV personality later canceled, Ryan said candidates should never accept violence or an atmosphere that permits it.

Ryan says the public is angry and frustrated, but he says politicians shouldn't call people names or fuel anger for political gains. He says they instead should propose policies that resolve problems.

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Gee, I guess Ryan missed all the comments from Obama and Holder that fueled the fires at Ferguson. Such as having Brown's family testify to the UN about police brutality in America
 
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http://www.fox19.com/story/314...-different-off-stage

In a not-so-veiled shot at Donald Trump, House Speaker Paul Ryan says candidates must accept responsibility for clashes that occur at their campaign events and should never condone or encourage violence.

The Wisconsin Republican did not mention the GOP's leading presidential candidate by name in an interview Monday on WRJN in Racine, Wisconsin.

But three days after Trump supporters and opposing demonstrators fought at a Chicago event that the billionaire TV personality later canceled, Ryan said candidates should never accept violence or an atmosphere that permits it.

Ryan says the public is angry and frustrated, but he says politicians shouldn't call people names or fuel anger for political gains. He says they instead should propose policies that resolve problems.

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Gee, I guess Ryan missed all the comments from Obama and Holder that fueled the fires at Ferguson. Such as having Brown's family testify to the UN about police brutality in America

Who is Ryan's opponent in November? I think I will send him some money.



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http://www.fox19.com/story/314...-different-off-stage

In a not-so-veiled shot at Donald Trump, House Speaker Paul Ryan says candidates must accept responsibility for clashes that occur at their campaign events and should never condone or encourage violence.

The Wisconsin Republican did not mention the GOP's leading presidential candidate by name in an interview Monday on WRJN in Racine, Wisconsin.

But three days after Trump supporters and opposing demonstrators fought at a Chicago event that the billionaire TV personality later canceled, Ryan said candidates should never accept violence or an atmosphere that permits it.

Ryan says the public is angry and frustrated, but he says politicians shouldn't call people names or fuel anger for political gains. He says they instead should propose policies that resolve problems.

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Gee, I guess Ryan missed all the comments from Obama and Holder that fueled the fires at Ferguson. Such as having Brown's family testify to the UN about police brutality in America


Ryan can go kiss my ASS Mad
Just another guy who billed himself as an "outsider" who RAN to go make nice with the Democrats every chance he could just like Rubio.

Just shut your mouth, sellout.
Roll Eyes


 
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Ryan is from Janesville WI, South of Madison near the IL border. This is Wisconsins 1st Congressional district. Here is the race:

District 1:
Paul Ryan (R) | House Speaker Site | Campaign Website
Has been in office since: 1999

1st District Candidates:

Tom Breu (D)
~ Engineer, Teacher

Ryan Solen (D)
~ Computer Security Professional, Army Veteran

Jason Lebeck (Libertarian)
~ Computer Technician

John Eleniewski (AFP)

Jason Kraayvanger (Independent)

Ryan got 63% of the vote in 2014, and 54% of the vote in 2012 when he was VP on Romneys ticket. Looks like the district is solidly Republican. I think the best we could do would be to persuade people to just not vote R in that specific race.
 
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Because the Kasich campaign was largely ignored as a non-factor prior to Rubio’s polling collapse, Kasich went months with virtually no scrutiny of even his most bizarre statements on the campaign trail.

However, in recent days, Trump has increasingly set his sights on Kasich—whether it be Kasich’s role at Lehman Brothers during the time of the economic collapse, as well as Kasich’s support for NAFTA and Obama’s Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement—a deal which Donald Trump and Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)80%
have warned would destroy Ohio’s auto industry.

In particular, Trump has zeroed in on Kasich’s heretofore overlooked push for massive amnesty. Though it has transpired without much attention, Kasich has quietly amassed a string of bizarre, peculiar, and extreme statements on immigration that places him to the furthest leftward reaches of not just the Republican President field, but the Democratic Presidential field as well. This perhaps underscores an element of seriousness to Kasich’s previous declaration, which he had intended in jest: “I ought to be running in a Democrat primary.”

Go to the link for some unbelievable quotes about immigration.



http://www.breitbart.com/immig...e-image-of-the-lord/
 
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This is a repeat, but the point is insightful.

Soros Fund Management donated $200k to Kasich
 
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