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Originally posted by a1abdj:
Isn't is amazing how many people see a quote and make a snap judgement? I'm guilty of it myself on occasion. But the nice thing about the internet is that you can do a quick search on the topic, and spend a few minutes verifying what you have read prior to making that judgement.

Unfortunately, that’s not so simple this time. I did a quick Google search and although the “I could shoot …” is repeated over and over in different places, the only one that prefaced it with “They say …” was, ironically, the Washington Post, and that was only in the headline.

For anyone who is interested in what he really said and doesn’t want to view the video linked by MRBTX, Trump was referring to the fact that his supporters are very loyal. He was reading from an article criticizing the National Review when he makes the “They say I could shoot … and not lose any voters” comment. He wasn’t claiming he could shoot someone and not lose supporters, he was pointing out what other people say about the loyalty of his supporters.

Cruz and Trump, the leading contenders on the Republican side, have their fierce defenders and detractors, though most people concede either would be preferable to the criminal serial liar or the aged Commie on the Democratic ticket.

City Journal had to my way of thinking a really sound explanation for Trump’s popularity:

What rankles most among workaday white Americans is that, even as their incomes and life expectancies decline, and even as the protections promised in the Fourteenth Amendment are eviscerated in favor of new minority carve-outs, they’re accused of benefitting from “white privilege.” The rise of Ferguson’s Michael Brown and Baltimore’s Freddy Gray -- the first a thug, the second a small-time drug dealer -- as black icons of white oppression, exemplify the perversions of Obama’s America. Fifty years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, a dramatically diminished racism is asked to account for the ongoing infirmities of the inner-city underclass.

Trump is both a reaction to and expression of liberal delusions. [Arthur] Schlesinger’s fears have largely come to pass; we’ve become what he called a “quarrelsome spatter of enclaves.” Schlesinger was too much a part of the elite to imagine that the class he always thought of as representing the best of the future would come to be despised by a broad swath of Americans for its incompetence and ineffectuality. But what Schlesinger saw on the horizon seems to have arrived, with no sign of abating: we are in the midst of a soft civil war."


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com...r.html#ixzz3yBKsdXom

Anyone that says Glenn Beck is a "stone-cold loser" is doing okay in my book.

I can only take so much of Beck. Im sure others say the same of Limbaugh. Beck is rooted in conspiracy and doom. :30 minutes of his program and Im ready to drive off a cliff.

If you wondered just how big a screwball Glenn Beck is, he says he prefers Sanders over Trump.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...s-over-donald-trump/

Glenn Beck is a seriously sick man, mentally. I'm not saying that just as a put down, it's what I really think. One of these days he will be found out on Times Square wearing nothing but a big overcoat and offering people meatballs out of the pockets.

Glen Beck really disappoints me, I used to really like him.

Thank goodness these people are finally displaying their pettiness which borders on genuine insanity. Let the rational be witness to this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

I am a little disappointed in the way Glenn Beck endorsed Ted Cruz with some mock oath of office and clownishly done. Beck also alluded to preferring a declared socialist in office than Trump. SMH. I al tethered to the same principles Beck is, but not in the same lunatic showman way.

You guys are crazy- from the horses mouth. And you still listen to Glen Beck?



If it ever came down to me voting for hillary- I would Not vote.

darthfuster, speaking on the border, did she say "The amigos are just runnin' out" around :35?

Maybe it's because I insulate myself from their nonsense, or maybe it's because the libs haven't had much in the way of contested elections, but I don't recall the petty bickering, the "circular firing squad" enthusiasm on the part of libs.

Maybe they just go with whoever rigs the election best, a skill much admired in those quarters, secure in the knowledge that whoever gets in will push the envelope in the proper direction and they will help all they can. It's More Important that it be "one of us" than any particular one. It takes a village, after all.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Yuge Dem for Trump

I do think there's a Yuge number of Dems who would cross over....

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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
darthfuster, speaking on the border, did she say "The amigos are just runnin' out" around :35?

I believe she did... I think they should be called amigo aliens. lol

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
[S]ecure in the knowledge that whoever gets in will push the envelope in the proper direction and they will help all they can. It's More Important that it be "one of us" than any particular one.

There are reasonable limits to that, but I truly wish more people on the right felt that way. As it is, if the porridge isn’t just the right temperature to ±0.1 degree, far too many of us push it away in disgust and proclaim, “Yuk! I’d rather starve first”—and as a consequence we do.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
Maybe it's because I insulate myself from their nonsense, or maybe it's because the libs haven't had much in the way of contested elections, but I don't recall the petty bickering, the "circular firing squad" enthusiasm on the part of libs.

Maybe they just go with whoever rigs the election best, a skill much admired in those quarters, secure in the knowledge that whoever gets in will push the envelope in the proper direction and they will help all they can. It's More Important that it be "one of us" than any particular one. It takes a village, after all.

Spot on, and what I have always believed of them for the 45 years that I have had the wherewithal to understand and the impetus to pay attention to the hidden enemy in our midsts.

I was a Reaganite, before I knew Ronald Reagan was anything but a B actor.

God, I miss that man.

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Originally posted by braillediver:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

Loosely, 'the Establishment' is our Fifth Column, and the patriotic attitudes around here and elsewhere are more analogous to Heinlein's notions of the Sixth Column.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
[S]ecure in the knowledge that whoever gets in will push the envelope in the proper direction and they will help all they can. It's More Important that it be "one of us" than any particular one.

There are reasonable limits to that, but I truly wish more people on the right felt that way. As it is, if the porridge isn’t just the right temperature to ±0.1 degree, far too many of us push it away in disgust and proclaim, “Yuk! I’d rather starve first”—and as a consequence we do.

they don't because those who are elected to carry out our ideologies and preserve the essence of America (so to speak) - those GOP politicians and their appointees and lackeys don't consistently actually do the job they were hired to do in a manner that is consistent with our values and ideologies...

they fail us, lie to us, give us excuses, and enrich themselves at out expense instead, they shift their efforts to "playing the game", "fitting in", and they do so over and over again, and in doing so essentially become the very adversary we're fighting against, and to make matters worse... they behave - with astonishing audacity - like Rulers... with nonsensical double standards and twisted logic and outrageous behaviour with impunity, and so on.

I think people are sick of blindly supporting "our team", "the Party", the GOP, "Republicans", because *they* don't act like our team, they have (figuratively, not conspiratorially) defected to the ruling class / the establishment / the fifth column, and we need to shake them out of it, or run them out, but it needs to stop.

they only get away with it because it's no longer ok to Tar and Feather them in town square or actually run them out of DC with Torches and Pitchforks, and they know it.

my vote and my opinions are the only pitchforks I'm allowed to have in modern society.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
You are allowing your wish that she be indicted (which I share) to get in the way of your reason.

If we are going to wish for the improbable, let's wish for something really good like she gets tried, convicted, and burned at stake as a witch.