I get that a lot of folks would love to see Cruz on the ticket, but does any traditional politician want to be on the ticket with Trump? They more than likely think he will be a disaster - do they want to be associated with that? The media will rip into Trump nonstop. Trump won't care but a traditional politician will not survive that kind of onslaught. Who would sign up to be a a part of that?
So how realistic is a Trump/Cruz ticket and who does he choose if he wins the nomination and Cruz or Rubio don't want to be on the ticket?
December 19, 2015, 10:42 AM
Sportshooter
Trump just might pick himself to be his VP. If he ran a kissing booth he'd be his best customer.
December 19, 2015, 11:00 AM
a1abdj
quote:
Trump just might pick himself to be his VP. If he ran a kissing booth he'd be his best customer.
People seem to be stuck on Trump's perceived ego. If this were the case, why wouldn't he be running his current organization all by himself? He owns it. He loves himself so much. Why does he have all of those others involved at all when he could just do it alone?
So how realistic is a Trump/Cruz ticket and who does he choose if he wins the nomination and Cruz or Rubio don't want to be on the ticket?
Rubio wouldn't do it... he's the establishment guy now. Cruz just might. It would set up Cruz for a future bid... but as JALLEN pointed out, would it make him irrelevant?
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
December 19, 2015, 11:42 AM
justjoe
What strikes me funny about Michael Moore, above, is the expression of self-righteousness, like he is doing something heroic standing there holding a piece of cardboard with some writing on it. Invite Syrian refugees into your 50 room mansion, and your other 8 homes, and you can strike a heroic pose, Michael.
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December 19, 2015, 01:23 PM
sdy
New Yorker Magazine says:
Many of Trump’s supporters are disaffected folks who are only marginally attached to the political process. A good number of them won’t show up at the voting booths.
so I guess we are all "marginally attached to the political process"
where do they come up w this crap?
edited: by mistake I originally said this was from the New York Post. Fixed it to say New YorkerThis message has been edited. Last edited by: sdy,
December 19, 2015, 01:25 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: New York Post says:
Many of Trump’s supporters are disaffected folks who are only marginally attached to the political process. A good number of them won’t show up at the voting booths.
so I guess we are all "marginally attached to the political process"
where do they come up w this crap?
Uh huh
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December 19, 2015, 01:36 PM
rburg
I'm certainly only marginally attached. I hate the career politicians that make a mess of this country. As for maybe not showing up on voting day, that could happen. It'll be a first because I've always voted, but I guess there's a first time for everything. I think I want to vote for Trump if only because I think he's not as crooked as the others running. The last cycle the free shit crowd voted for one of their own and he's really made a mess of things. Now they want to vote for the first woman running. She seems even more crooked than the current occupant, with a long losing record behind her. At least Trump seems to be a winner in the business sense, something Obama has never been and Hillary only because she "picked" the right stocks in R-kansas. Of course that one seems really crooked and influenced by her husbands position. If we hire Trump and he applies his business sense to running the country, things might turn around. Better chance of that than more of the same.
I'm pretty sure that if the R national committee cheats and somehow gets their babe in the nomination, I will feel disaffected and stay home.
Unhappy ammo seeker
December 19, 2015, 02:26 PM
TSE
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: New York Post says:
Many of Trump’s supporters are disaffected folks who are only marginally attached to the political process. A good number of them won’t show up at the voting booths.
so I guess we are all "marginally attached to the political process"
where do they come up w this crap?
People vote when they think they will make a difference. It is far more likely that those the NYT consider disaffected were not voting because they felt the system was broken. It is therefore much more likely they will vote this time if Trump is running and they see it as a means to fix the system. He might just be motivating the disaffected. Of course I am pretty sure the NYT thinks the system is fine so they would never consider any of this.
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December 19, 2015, 04:07 PM
45 Cal
quote:
Of course I am pretty sure the NYT thinks the system is fine so they would never consider any of this.
Hay liberals,go ahead and bet the farm in this manor of thinking,then wait for the pucker factor,what a bunch of out of touch fuckers. News flash,the whole country is tired of commie shit being shoveled down the working mans throat.
December 20, 2015, 08:53 PM
oddball
So Jeb feels more comfortable being in the rear of the Republican field than the front runner. He says "I feel much better back here" "I feel good about where we are right now"
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
December 20, 2015, 08:59 PM
sigmonkey
"My name us Jeb, and I've been sucking hind tit all my life."
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
December 20, 2015, 09:03 PM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by oddball: So Jeb feels more comfortable being in the rear of the Republican field than the front runner. He says "I feel much better back here" "I feel good about where we are right now"
Ya, Jeb... We feel much better with you back there too! 3%! Soon... you'll be off the stage!
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
December 20, 2015, 09:06 PM
PD
It's the New Yorker Magazine. Not the New York Times. And they do have a valid point. "Disaffected folks who are only marginally attached to the political process" better know how the primary process works if they want to make a difference.
December 20, 2015, 09:15 PM
bionic218
What you are seeing in print and on TV is the full on break down screaming flailing crying fit that the media is having. Very similar to the three year old child denied his favorite toy in the store. It started off with pouting, escalated to name calling, and now has become a complete and total unmitigated tantrum.
You have to understand what the media wanted, in order to understand their reaction. They wanted Jeb V Hillary. They were salivating over it, mentally masturbating to images of the two political dynasties going head to head in the arena of ideas and gamesmanship. They had butterflies and tremors running up their legs just imagining the ratings and the back story.
And more than any other option, what a Bush V Clinton contest would do, is secure a Clinton victory.
So now you see them out in the open, for what they really are. Three year olds having a fit because it isn't going to script.
Why?
Because Americans are pissed off at the script. They're pissed off at the actors. They're pissed off at the writers.
Trump doing well means that Americans are boycotting the process.
But don't buy into the philosophy that this means they/we won't vote.
It only means we're sick of the media picking the candidates. Not that we don't care, and not that we won't vote.
December 20, 2015, 09:39 PM
46and2
^ I think so, too. helpless, irritated, tantrums... by the DNC, the GOP, and the Media... years of planning, scheming, and premature backslapping... millions spent, promises made... promptly (and perhaps irreversibly) shunted by Trump's candidacy and it's momentum.
thus far, it's been rather glorious.
December 20, 2015, 09:58 PM
roberth
I am enjoying the hell out of this.
December 20, 2015, 09:58 PM
erj_pilot
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: New Yorker Magazine says:
Many of Trump’s supporters are disaffected folks who are only marginally attached to the political process. A good number of them won’t show up at the voting booths.
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
December 21, 2015, 09:00 AM
justjoe
In an interview with NPR, Obama plays the race card on Trump. Inevitable. At this point Obama has got nothing else. He's holding a deck of 52 race cards. But here is what I found interesting: When I read the article this morning there were 28 comments. 5 were supportive. 23 were critical and negative, and some of them as harsh as what we have to say here on this board. And this is The New York Times. When readers of the Times turn on Barack Hussein, the whole country has turned on the traitor.
"You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone."
December 21, 2015, 09:56 AM
BBMW
If he's turning on disaffected potential voters, they'll probably show up at the primary and general election with bells on. If Trump is going to win, that's how it'll happen.
quote:
Originally posted by PD: It's the New Yorker Magazine. Not the New York Times. And they do have a valid point. "Disaffected folks who are only marginally attached to the political process" better know how the primary process works if they want to make a difference.
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