The idiots on the news here in liberal land just reported on the Electoral College vote and actually stated "it looks like all the protests aren't going to have the desired effect and Donald Trump will be named the 45th President".

Like there was actually a chance the protests would sway the E.C.

Trump is now at 304....

http://www.270towin.com/live-2...on-vote-of-electors/

Well it's done now. Two faithless electors in TX. Four faithless electors in WA with NV and CA not cast yet.

304 total.

Now the question is; will we have another SJW meltdown like election night, not that their hail Mary attempt has dissolved?

Tony.

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Originally posted by flashguy:
IMHO, it was not a "bogus e-mail deal" and still is not.

Of course it was not bogus. But it’s just like the “Bush lied about WMD in Iraq” and countless other propaganda claims from the left: Repeat something often enough and people start to believe it even if it’s glaringly obviously not true.

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
The idiots on the news here in liberal land just reported on the Electoral College vote and actually stated "it looks like all the protests aren't going to have the desired effect and Donald Trump will be named the 45th President".

Like there was actually a chance the protests would sway the E.C.

Hahahahahaha, so delusional.

In this historic election...on this historic day (only January 20th will be more historic)...this op-ed piece from Michael Goodwin makes me smile...yep, for dims, this is how it ends

SUCK IT BITCHES!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion...to-be-president.html

So this is how it ends — in a whimper wrapped in self-pity and recriminations. With President Obama on the defensive at his final press conference and Hillary Clinton’s last campaign event resembling a wake, the Democratic Party is limping off the stage and into the political winter.

It was supposed to sit atop the national power pyramid for decades, a new paradigm of liberals, progressives, the young, the old, the unions and blacks, Latinos, Muslims and Asians.

The torch would be passed from Obama to Clinton, a liberal Supreme Court would vastly expand executive power and the regulatory state would enforce climate-change orthodoxy on all industry and elitist dictates on every American. Globalism would be the new patriotism.

But a funny thing happened on the way to one-party dominance: The people who work for a living said no, hell no. Their revolt brings Donald Trump to the White House amid hopes of a revival of the economy and of the American spirit.

Thoroughly beaten, the Dems are at their lowest point in nearly a century. From the White House to Congress to statehouses, they are on the outside looking in.

Their punishment was well-deserved, as demonstrated by Obama and Clinton. Full of excuses and blaming everyone except themselves, their closing acts proved it is time for them to go.

They have nothing new to offer, with their vision of the future limited to larger doses of the same failing medicine and their intolerance for disagreement showing they would never learn from their mistakes. Their bad ideas had run their disastrous course.

Yet instead of analyzing what went wrong and trying to find new organizing principles, party leaders and activists are pointing fingers at the FBI and Russia, and engaging in a mad bid to overturn Trump’s Electoral College victory.

Because they are doomed to fail, we could be witnessing the death throes of the Democratic Party as we know it. With Obama and the Clintons encouraging the attempted theft of an election they lost and failing to denounce intimidation and death threats against Trump electoral voters, most Americans have reason to consider the Dems a dead letter.


Yet the final verdict on 2016 depends on Trump’s performance as president. If he delivers “jobs, jobs, jobs” and peace-through-strength abroad, he will forge a new governing consensus and remake the political landscape.

While it’s too soon to know what exactly Trumpism stands for, it’s clear that many Republican orthodoxies and special-interest debts are being tossed overboard. His cabinet nominees are incredibly accomplished individuals who come to their new jobs without the burdens of past Washington gridlock. If he can attract centrist-minded Dems, some of whom he is courting, Trump has a chance to build a pragmatic coalition that keeps faith with mainstream America.

The obstacles, of course, are many. Much of the Islamic world is on fire and the great powers are moving ever closer to confrontation in Europe and Asia.

Obama leaves office with Russia, Iran and China eating our lunch, with the Chinese theft of a Navy drone a goodbye insult. The unspeakable horror of Syria and the rise of the Islamic State will forever be part of the 44th president’s legacy.

So too will be domestic divisions, which grew more stark and bitter in the last eight years. We are now perilously close to a boil, and that too falls partially on Obama’s shoulders given his fear-mongering about Trump.

Against that dark reality, it is reasonable to worry the nation is on the verge of a crack-up. But there is also a possibility that America is on the verge of a new greatness.

It’s up to Trump. The ultimate outsider and a historic disrupter, he bears some responsibility for the polarization. But victory presents him with an opportunity to make government work for the people, instead of the other way around.

He is off to a great start and must stay focused to avoid falling down the rabbit holes of petty disputes. America needs the change he promised and he needs to commit every ounce of his being into keeping that promise. If he succeeds, so will the nation.

Join the club, Mrs. O

On her way out the door, first lady Michelle Obama tossed off an ungracious remark, saying, “We’re feeling what not having hope feels like.”

Actually, what she’s feeling is what half the country felt for most of the last eight years.

Ryan Zinke Named Secretary of the Interior

Nomination looks to be good for hunting and fishing
By Ben Long December 15, 2016


Secretary of Interior Ryan Zinke and Outdoor Life Editor Andrew McKean

Outdoor Life

Secretary of Interior appointee Ryan Zinke and Outdoor Life Editor Andrew McKean

When Congressman Ryan Zinke walks into Moose’s Saloon in his home district in Montana during summer recess, he looks like he just stepped off a drift boat: cargo shorts, T-shirt, river sandals, “raccoon” sunburn.

This week, news emerged that president-elect Donald Trump selected Republican Zinke to be Secretary of Interior. But how might Zinke handle that job, which oversees hundreds of millions of acres of national parks, wildlife refuges and lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management?

Last two times I saw Zinke at Moose’s, I thanked him for a couple of actions he took as a member of the House Natural Resource Committee. First, he bucked some Republican congressional leaders by pushing for reauthorization and funding of Land & Water Conservation Fund. Second, he again pushed back against some leaders in his Republican party that pushed for a party platform plank to dispose of public lands. Zinke responded with a quick political cliché: “I just call ‘em like I see ‘em.” But his political tradeoffs and choices are more complicated than that.

Since he first ran for office as a state legislator, Zinke has tried to brand himself as a “Theodore Roosevelt Republican” who cared about conservation at the same time he championed developing natural resources. As Secretary of the Interior, Zinke will be under the spotlight on just those issues.

Zinke was raised in Montana, hunting and fishing like just about everyone else. When he first ran for the Montana Legislature, he represented the politically purple resort community of Whitefish. He sought out—and received—endorsement of the Montana Conservation Voters, a rarity for Republicans. Once in office, he even led some committee discussions on the risk of global warming. However, that relationship soon cooled.

Zinke went on to represent Montana in Congress. His favor with the environmental community plummeted as he championed coal mining and fossil fuels. The national League of Conservation Voters gives Zinke a mere 3 percent grade for his voting record. There are several main points to Zinke’s political background that will guide his work, should he be approved to lead the Department of Interior.

Zinke is a pro-coal politician from a coal-producing state. His ties to fossil fuel industries will limit his appeal with environmental groups who prioritize climate change as their main concern. Keep an eye on how he treats sagebrush country in the West, so critical for game like pronghorn, mule deer and sage grouse.

Over decades, Zinke watched the collapse of the timber industry in Montana and has often waxed nostalgic about returning loggers to the woods.

At the same time, he grew up in sight of Glacier National Park and the Bob Marshall Wilderness. He cannot help but sense how these conserved wild lands are enormous economic engines for local communities.

Zinke’s positions on LWCF makes perfect sense when you consider how important that law is for funding access to the outdoors. More than half of the fishing access sites in Montana, for example, were purchased at least in part with LWCF dollars, which funnels royalties from offshore drilling to habitat, recreation and access projects. America’s national forests and other public lands are critical to America’s hunting and fishing heritage, and Zinke knows that.

Press reports indicate that Trump chose Zinke to lead DOI over two other prominent Republican Congress members: Raul Labrador of Idaho and Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington. One thing that sets Zinke apart from those two is his position against selling the public estate. That aligns more closely with promises Trump made to sportsmen on the campaign trail.

While Zinke still has a long way to go to fill the footsteps of his idol Theodore Roosevelt, in an era when some politicians are eager to pull down TR’s public land legacy, sportsmen could do a lot worse at the Department of the Interior.

http://www.outdoorlife.com/rya...ws121916&spPodID=030

Well now that this is over, can we (I'm talking about the media) stop talking about Russia, hacking, Comey, and how the EC works? I was getting pretty tired of the seeing this narrative driven hard.

It will be entertaining, I'm sure, to see if there's any more meltdowns in the next month.

Tony.

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
Hey, you can never win too many times

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Originally posted by benny6:

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Originally posted by SIG4EVA:
I'm not sure why you guys are following it so closely. Trump won the election. Trump's win will be confirmed with the electorate. Trump will be the President on January 20, 2017. Case closed. No point in feeding the liberal hysteria as if something is going to change.

No doubt that it will happen, but for some of us, it's just so sweet to watch it happen as it happens. It makes the victory very fulfilling.

Tony.

Didn't Trump say very early something like: "We're gonna win so much you may get sick and tired of winning"!

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I went and voted again, today.
Wasn't anyone else there.

Must be out Christmas shopping or something.

I sure hope Trump wins.

Does anyone know what the exit polls ar showing?

So far it's one pro-Trump monkey. CNN just called it for Hillary.

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While it’s too soon to know what exactly Trumpism stands for, it’s clear that many Republican orthodoxies and special-interest debts are being tossed overboard. His cabinet nominees are incredibly accomplished individuals who come to their new jobs without the burdens of past Washington gridlock. If he can attract centrist-minded Dems, some of whom he is courting, Trump has a chance to build a pragmatic coalition that keeps faith with mainstream America.

It is going to be hard to be a purist, I think.

Trump is neither fish or fowl, all liberal nor all conservative, and some will be infuriated by some of his moves when trying to match them with their beliefs and preferences. That's always been so, to a certain extent, but likely more so in the future.

Trump at 304 EC votes. Yeah, it was a certainty, but I'm going to celebrate with a nice glass of Bushmills Black Bush Irish whiskey this evening!

IN YOUR FACE! Ha!

Trump had 2 faithless electors in Texas.

One voted for Kasich, and the other voted for Ron Paul.

The POS Suprun had said he was going to vote for Kasich.

I would like to see life made miserable for all of the faithless electors (REP and DEM).

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
Trump is neither fish or fowl, all liberal nor all conservative, and some will be infuriated by some of his moves when trying to match them with their beliefs and preferences.

We already have some on the right pissing and moaning about what he’s doing, so it will only get worse in the future. I’m pretty certain that he will do things I don’t like as well, but what I won’t ever forget is that He’s NOT Bill Clinton’s wife!

Pop! Had two bottles of champagne for New Year's Eve, down to one now!

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Trump at 304 EC votes. Yeah, it was a certainty, but I'm going to celebrate with a nice glass of Bushmills Black Bush Irish whiskey this evening!

A good friend of mine who died a few years ago would say you had very good taste!

flashguy

I saw an interview with Stephen Miller the other day. He is a speech writer and policy guy for Trump. Trump will appoint him as Senior Advisor to the President for Policy.

He was pretty impressive in the interview.

from Wiki:

Stephen Miller is an American political operative, best known for working for Republican Senator Jeff Sessions and president-elect Donald Trump.

Though his parents were Democrats, Miller became a conservative after reading National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre's Guns, Crime, and Freedom.

While attending Santa Monica High School, Miller began appearing on conservative talk radio. In 2002, at the age of sixteen, Miller wrote a letter to the editor of The Santa Monica Lookout, in which he stated that "Osama Bin Laden would feel very welcome at Santa Monica High School."

In 2007, Miller received his bachelor's degree from Duke University, majoring in political science.

Miller served as president of the Duke chapter of Students for Academic Freedom and wrote conservative columns for the school newspaper. Miller gained national attention for his defense of the lacrosse players in the Duke lacrosse case.

I knew it would turn out good for the Trumpster, I am still relieved it's over. In the back of my mind there was still that nagging feeling that a lefty or lefty group, paid by the Klintons, Soros, or even WH homie and his crew might attempt some act to retain left-wing power. However, we are past that now. It may sound a little paranoid, but I would put absolutely nothing past the current crop of liberals. They stretched the bounds of credibility and decorum of this election into an absurd twilight reality. The media has covered up treasonous acts of epic proportions, and will fail to acknowledge their participation. I believe we as a nation came closer to disaster than we know. But we prevailed. Time for a double Crown Royal on ice. Thanks for your patience in letting me get this off of chest.