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I watched President elect Donald Trump's speech in Cincinnati. I took away three things. 1. President elect Donald Trump clearly was enjoying himself. 2. He is going to work hard to keep his campaign promises. 3. It was the first time in 8 years I didn't turn off the TV when a President or President elect made a speech to the American public. ______________________________________________________________________________ My grandfather voted republican until the day he died, now he votes democrat. | |||
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And they are probably being built to Mil-Spec requirements. The cost of the paper trail is Yuuge! I worked in the defense sector for a decade and it is really staggering how much Mil-Spec stuff adds to the costs. Much of what is in that airframe can be built to commercial aviation standards, and in fact it may very well be higher quality if it is off-the-rack rather than custom built to Mil-Spec. All the fancy military comms, weapons systems, anti-missile systems, EMP resistant systems etc are of course going to be very expensive add-ons to the standard 747. Still, it is hard to see how the price comes out at 10x an airline version of the same airframe. | |||
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like with anything free, you get what you pay for [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Only the strong survive |
The problem is that you are only building two instead of 100 or more so the engineering costs is spread over just two. With a special design for all the additional equipment, you have to take the plane at some point and come up with all new drawings and engineering. If we had a break down of the costs for the present 747-8 which they claim is around $360M, you could project a reasonable cost. I am sure the Pentagon has bend working on this for several years due to the age of Air Force One. But, it is good that he is questioning their price. 41 41 | |||
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California doesn't give a ratfuck about the US or anything outside its own borders we need to treat California like they treat us - with contempt [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
As the author indicated, the press abandoned all journalistic standards and engaged in an open war against Donald Trump. They did not think he could win, so they felt safe in their derision and partisanship. Well, it just happens that Mister Trump won, and now the press has fucked themselves. They expected Trump to hit back. They knew he would do so all along the way in the campaign, but now, he's calling them on their shit when he will soon be POTUS, and that's gotta scare the crap out of these frauds. For these charlatans to invoke the First Amendment is preposterous. I wonder if they think anyone is still fooled by this. | |||
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You know many of us bashed social media, Fartbook, Twatter, Snapper Chat, utoob et al, said we'd never use it, stupid, for kids, waste of time. etc. Who'd have thought one candidate using an Iphone and twitter account could destroy the blockade of the modern liberal media and become POTUS. Its time to thank those platforms for the R revolution, because of them Trump had direct access to voters, bypassing the medias control over news and elections, eviscerating their power over what we see and how it's presented. In social media with Trump or anyone you can get the unblemished truth, the real content and context. Perhaps some of us old farts should reconsider social medias value to a republic | |||
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The technology is useful. Google, Facebook, Twitter actively joined in with the press to undermine this election. | |||
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We don't have to imagine. This election showed that the msm, for all practical purposes, is just a branch of the DNC. Yet they get all defensive and feign outrage that we *dare* question their loyalty and dedication to the principles of a free, unbiased press. THIS is why they are becoming marginalized; and they only have themselves to blame for it. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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Obama did cancel the Marine One contract though when the price tag reached around $13 or some billions years back IIRC.. | |||
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More stupidity from California. Immigration advocacy groups are asking California Attorney General Kamala Harris to “block federal access” to the database containing names of gang members in the state. The goal is to block access before President-elect Donald Trump is sworn in, thereby preventing his administration from seeing the names of individuals who could find themselves on a the deportation short list. According to the Voice of OC (VOC), a 2016 report from the California State Auditor claims the CalGang database has problems because of “weak oversight.” This means the database reportedly contains some names that should have been removed and other names that ought not have been added in the first place. VOC put it this way: “In some cases law enforcement agencies put individuals in the database without adequate evidence, failed to purge CalGang records that had not been updated within five years, and poorly implemented a state law requiring that juveniles and their parents are notified before the minor is placed in the database.” Advocacy groups fear that Trump would sift through the names on the database in a search for immigrants who have amassed a criminal record in the US, only “to deport…[illegal] immigrants who’ve been erroneously labeled as gang members.” In a post-election 60 Minutes appearance, Trump “vowed to immediately deport as many as three million undocumented immigrants, specifically those with criminal records such as gang members and drug dealers.” The pledge to secure the border and “immediately deport” illegal immigrants with a criminal record was popular with voters in the general election. And the Border Patrol’s National Border Patrol Council has made clear they are eager to see Trump secure the border, especially as it relates to building a wall. But the Urban Peace Institute’s Sean Garcia-Leys does not want the CalGang database anywhere near Trump at this time. Garcia-Leys said, “Until the Department of Justice can assure people that there is accuracy and that there are no harms to being put in the database…basically the plug should be pulled on CalGang until those things happen because the risk of the database being used in immigration is just too high to allow it to continue right now.” http://www.breitbart.com/calif...gang-database-trump/ | |||
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The Washington Post. Was not the Washington Post originally founded in the early 19th century to be the mouthpiece, masquerading as a newspaper, for the democratic party? Personally, I never paid much attention to the Washington Post Rag. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand "He gains votes ever and anew by taking money from everybody and giving it to a few, while explaining that every penny was extracted from the few to be giving to the many." Ogden Nash from his poem - The Politician | |||
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Low Speed, High Drag |
Fine, No problem.....Just turn off the welfare to everyone in CA until they can prove they were born here.......see how long before they start heading back to wherever they came from. "Blessed is he who when facing his own demise, thinks only of his front sight.” Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem Montani Semper Liberi | |||
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The One, the Only Mighty Paragon |
....and now FL has joined the recount game. Desperation is really setting in. NRA Basic Pistol Instructor NRA Range Safety Officer | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
The computer guys have been plotting and scheming. Something weird is about to be played. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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]Trump may divert global warming funds to moon mission To the moon and beyond The Donald's views on climate change are no secret. He has referred to it in the past as a Chinese hoax and claimed it was invented to limit American manufacturing and growth.Therefore, it's not much of a stretch to see NASA's budgets and priorities overhauled during the Trump administration with a focus to putting astronauts back on the moon.Trump to send men back to the moon and 'explore entire solar system' rather than fight climate change. ************************************************* NRA Life Member Capital punishment means never having to say, "You again?" | |||
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What was that two-day Soros-sponsored meeting in Washington about, two weeks ago? ____________________________ "Fear is a Reaction - Courage is a Decision.” - Winston Spencer Churchill NRA Life Member - Adorable Deplorable Garbage | |||
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Unless I missed something, just a couple of voters in Florida filed a lawsuit today seeking a recount and the defendants (the state) don't even have to respond until after the Dec 19th deadline to certify the results. Has a judge just ordered a recount or something without the state responding to the lawsuit? “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Cut it out, please. Just relax. I'm tired of all the hand-wringing. I thought I had made that clear before. Paragon, do you understand? | |||
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I don’t know what a “reasonable” price is for the new 747-8 Air Force One aircraft. However, there is nothing cheap when it comes to new 747-8 aircraft, let alone the cutting-edge technology that would be packed in a new AF-1. These airframes amount to custom, one-off builds that require huge amounts of engineering above and beyond a production build. I believe the contract is for 2 of these. It might include spares, support, not really sure of the details. Nothing wrong with President-Elect Trump making sure he gets his money’s worth! I’m glad he’s looking hard at this, and hope he looks hard at all federal expenses. I for one am ok with my tax money going towards something that projects the power and prestige of the United States as our President visits countries all around the globe. And creates good jobs here at home for a lot of people. If his decision is to cancel the order, that would be a shame. The chance to get a four-engine aircraft of this type (manufactured in the USA) is now, as many analysts believe Boeing will end production of the 747 in the not too distant future. And, the current AF-1 747s are near the end of their projected 30-year life. | |||
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