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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Ivanka and Donald meet with Al Gore to discuss climate change????

WTF? Apparently Ivanka thinks climate change should be a signature issue?

Can't wait to see what this one is about.

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This bothers me, why would anyone want to meet with the fraud algore for any reason.

We'll see how it pans out.

You gotta understand the enemy before you can beat the enemy. Even when you are not talking about an enemy though, really to understand any subject it is good to hear from both sides if for no other reason than to understand what they are saying so that you have a good response ready. Al Gore is a fraud for sure but the climate change nutjobs see him as a god.

Trump is a smart guy but he does not know about every topic. I am sure he will meet with people on both sides of the debate. Whether climate change is real or not, or caused by man or not, is really not the point either. What is real is that climate change is a huge topic in the political world and Trump is being smart by taking the time to learn as much as he can about it since it will come up without a doubt.

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to learn as much as he can about it

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Originally posted by Pale Horse:
to learn as much as he can about it

You don't learn about anything talking to a whack job zealot who's been proven wrong.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
maybe they met with him and told him to shut up and go hide somewhere otherwise they would do everything they could to expose him as the corrupt faudster that most of us know him as

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Republican NC Governor concedes election to Dem challenger

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/c...es-election-n2255361

odd that Trump won NC, and Burr won senate race, but the Rep Gov lost.

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Originally posted by TSE:
There is nothing to be lost agreeing that Climate change exists and may pose a problem. The real issue is that carbon taxes, cap and trade schemes and related UN nonsense are designed to penalize first world countries while giving a pass to the big polluters, the worst being China. The more responsible and effective way to address this is just as Trump had laid out. We need to start penalizing imports of products made under dirty conditions. In general our products must comply with stringent environmental restrictions. Let's force third world countries to follow suit rather than further handicapping our own industries.

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There is nothing to be lost agreeing that Climate change exists and may pose a problem.

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Originally posted by KenS:

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Originally posted by TSE:
There is nothing to be lost agreeing that Climate change exists and may pose a problem. The real issue is that carbon taxes, cap and trade schemes and related UN nonsense are designed to penalize first world countries while giving a pass to the big polluters, the worst being China. The more responsible and effective way to address this is just as Trump had laid out. We need to start penalizing imports of products made under dirty conditions. In general our products must comply with stringent environmental restrictions. Let's force third world countries to follow suit rather than further handicapping our own industries.

I disagree, much is lost by agreeing to bad, politicized, psuedo-science. The integrity of science for one.

However, this could be a political move. If you wanted to support US manufacturing, imposing a "carbon tariff" on imports would certaimly provide a method that the leftists would find difficult to argue against. Algore would be the perfect "tool" to deliver that message. At least until countries match what the US has already done for "climate change", we could help out US manufacturing.

But just to be clear, I think "man made climate change" is a total crock of shit.

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First off, he is not stupid, and second, he has spent his entire life getting things done where others have found them to be impossible. Imagine trying to do a major real estate development in New York City or New Jersey.

The city governments and each department is against you - each department head running his or her own little kingdom controlling permits, surveys, inspectors, etc and none of them wanting you to develop anything. Then you have EPA, OSHA, unions, public utilities and who knows what else to deal with.

No one just walks in and orders those people what to do - each one requires different levels of cajolery and/or behind the scenes manipulation to get what you want done.

Trump has proven a master at this - getting developments done where everyone thought they would be impossible.

Do you think he would do what Obama did and insulate himself in the White House and never meet with the leaders of Congress? I don't - I think he would have them there all the time and would quickly learn what he needed to do to get each one to either go along or step aside - whether it was political favors or threats to expose them to a media firestorm or funding their opponents in upcoming elections. I think he would figure it out and do whatever he had to do to get his way.

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Originally posted by TSE:
There is nothing to be lost agreeing that Climate change exists and may pose a problem. The real issue is that carbon taxes, cap and trade schemes and related UN nonsense are designed to penalize first world countries while giving a pass to the big polluters, the worst being China. The more responsible and effective way to address this is just as Trump had laid out. We need to start penalizing imports of products made under dirty conditions. In general our products must comply with stringent environmental restrictions. Let's force third world countries to follow suit rather than further handicapping our own industries.

I disagree, much is lost by agreeing to bad, politicized, psuedo-science. The integrity of science for one.

However, this could be a political move. If you wanted to support US manufacturing, imposing a "carbon tariff" on imports would certaimly provide a method that the leftists would find difficult to argue against. Algore would be the perfect "tool" to deliver that message. At least until countries match what the US has already done for "climate change", we could help out US manufacturing.

But just to be clear, I think "man made climate change" is a total crock of shit.

Ken S.

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In August, I went on six dates in one week. I had decided that I was ready to look for a partner. Enough of this dating unavailable men a half-decade younger than me. They’d never seriously consider a relationship with me, my two children and our needy dog. No. I wanted to find an equal. A man who wouldn’t feel the need to step in and rescue me. I didn’t need rescuing.

But I knew deep down that was only partially true. I often felt the sort of loneliness that settled in my stomach, starting from a chaotic afternoon with my children, lasting well into the night when I pulled covers tight around my chin.

I’ve been on my own with my kids for most of the past decade. I have no idea what a supportive partner would even look like in my house. I imagined it as some sort of potluck: We’d both bring the things we have to offer and place them on the table. My ability to multitask and keep everyone’s schedules on track would sit next to his ability to fix cars, cook or read books in silly voices. Then we’d feast.

Of the six first dates I had in August, two men seemed promising. One of them met me at a brewery. We chatted happily through two beers. Finally I was out of a job interview mode I’d fallen into while sitting across from strangers. I relaxed. I laughed. And it wasn’t the laugh I did just because. It was real.

We dated for a few weeks before he admitted he wasn’t ready for something serious. Two days later, the other of those good dates called me out of the blue. We talked for a while, and I asked him to dinner. Things were falling into place. A feast was laid out on the table, and it looked delicious.

But two weeks later, the election happened. Once it was clear that Donald Trump would be president instead of Hillary Clinton, I felt sick to my stomach. I wanted to gather my children in bed with me and cling to them like we would if thunder and lightning were raging outside, with winds high enough that they power might go out. The world felt that precarious to me.

[Why I love being alone for the holidays]

My oldest came out of her room the next morning to show me the money the Tooth Fairy had left her. She’d unexpectedly had to have a tooth pulled, and so bravely went through it that I said, “Just think: You’ll always remember the day you got a tooth pulled with the day we elected our first female president.”

When I told her Trump had won, she protested: “But Mom. You said Hillary was going to win.”

“A lot of people thought the same thing,” I said. I hugged her, a little scared to send her to school, out into the big sky country of the red state where we live.

Twenty minutes later, at a stoplight on the way to drop off my 2-year-old daughter at day care, steam started creeping out from under the hood of my car. Fortunately my mechanic’s shop was nearby.

My radiator was cracked in two places, right at the top. “I really wouldn’t feel comfortable with you driving it,” one of the mechanics said. Luckily a new radiator could easily be obtained and installed that day. I thanked them.

I didn’t start crying until I had crossed the street to walk home. We had a few miles to go, so I carried my daughter. I didn’t mind carrying her; I still had that urge to cling to her and keep her close. It was cold that morning, but the sun started to warm us enough to remove our hats. Halfway home, my tears stopped, and my despair grew to appreciation.

[What if we thought of monogamy as a spectrum?]

I have the means to fix our car. I, on my own, can support my family. I not only have the strength to keep it together mentally and emotionally but I also have the strength to carry my daughter home. I have the strength to carry all of us.

That urge to cling to my family while keeping our foundation strong didn’t mesh well with continuing to date the man I’d been seeing. He also has a daughter. He, too, had been feeling a lot of the same emotions I was experiencing: hopelessness; fear; uncertainty about the future; panic over having to talk to my 9-year-old about anything that might come up at school, or what to do in the instance of sexual assault. But I couldn’t reach out to him anymore. He was too new, too unfamiliar.

My focus had to be on my community of friends that are my family. I need to fiercely love the people close to me instead of learning to love someone new. To reach out to others could weaken the bonds that hold my family together.

“I can’t,” I told him. “I just can’t.”

I’ve lost the desire to attempt the courtship phase. The future is uncertain. I am not the optimistic person I was on the morning of Nov. 8, wearing a T-shirt with “Nasty Woman” written inside a red heart. It makes me want to cry thinking of that. Of seeing my oldest in the shirt I bought her in Washington, D.C., that says “Future President.”

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
Here's something from the washington post...single dudes, avoid this woman (if half of this is even true)

"Trump’s election stole my desire to look for a partner"