Originally posted by Paragon: I have been trying to wrap my head around all the types of government in the world.
So Hitler as not really socialist, but more fascist, as in far right. But socialism is far left...even though his party was the national socialist party. I think.
What the dems have been trying to institute is a social democracy. Social justice warriors, and the welfare state....redistribution of income....all contained with the "framework" of capitalism. I got this from Wikipedia, yes.
I think.
But the progressives want big government so that they can impose their will on industries. And on the people.
I find this very confusing. What is their big problem with Trump? Calling him Hitler seems to mean they feel he is so far right as to be almost fascist or totalitarian.
When the dems call this a democracry, do they mean the social democracy they are trying to create? Is that really what they have been trying to drive us toward?
Or do I need to start drinking and forget all this?
Originally posted by Paragon: I have been trying to wrap my head around all the types of government in the world.
So Hitler as not really socialist, but more fascist, as in far right. But socialism is far left...even though his party was the national socialist party. I think.
I got it. Thanks. The video cleared up the left and right.
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November 25, 2016, 04:37 PM
roberth
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by Paragon: I have been trying to wrap my head around all the types of government in the world.
So Hitler as not really socialist, but more fascist, as in far right. But socialism is far left...even though his party was the national socialist party. I think.
Correct, Hitler was a leftist, a Nationalist Socialist. The (D) likes to lie about Hitler being right-wing when the reality is that Hitler is one of theirs.
November 25, 2016, 04:43 PM
WaterburyBob
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Originally posted by roberth:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by Paragon: I have been trying to wrap my head around all the types of government in the world.
So Hitler as not really socialist, but more fascist, as in far right. But socialism is far left...even though his party was the national socialist party. I think.
Correct, Hitler was a leftist, a Nationalist Socialist. The (D) likes to lie about Hitler being right-wing when the reality is that Hitler is one of theirs.
Yes, and liberals always project what they actually are themselves onto their opponents.
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November 25, 2016, 04:55 PM
Ronin1069
This story is beginning to cause me anxiety.
President-elect Donald Trump pressed forward Friday with two more administration picks, as failed Green Party candidate Jill Stein took new steps to force recounts across key Midwestern battlegrounds.
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November 25, 2016, 05:00 PM
mbinky
No anxiety here. Let that whackjob waste everyone's money. It won't change a thing.
November 25, 2016, 05:04 PM
jljones
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Originally posted by mbinky: No anxiety here. Let that whackjob waste everyone's money. It won't change a thing.
Yep. All she ever was is a shill for the Dems anyways. It is more transparent by the day. She wants a recount to make sure that .003 percent of the vote that she got was correct.
Gotcha. I would not be surprised if this wasn't paid for by the Klinton Foundation.
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November 25, 2016, 05:05 PM
VBVAGUY
The Demmys have to remember that if a recount is performed, it can and may go against them where even more votes are found to go for Trump. What then will they do ? Call fraud ? Ask for another recount ? They just do not think do they ? God Bless
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November 25, 2016, 05:07 PM
Sgt Neutron
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Originally posted by Ronin1069: This story is beginning to cause me anxiety.
President-elect Donald Trump pressed forward Friday with two more administration picks, as failed Green Party candidate Jill Stein took new steps to force recounts across key Midwestern battlegrounds.
Curious that Jill Stein is filing the challenge. She raised almost as much for a recount than she did for her campaign. Could it be that she is being financed to challenge the count, so that Hillary/Democrats don't look like sore losers?
November 25, 2016, 05:08 PM
ensigmatic
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Originally posted by mbinky: No anxiety here. Let that whackjob waste everyone's money. It won't change a thing.
Yup. That much less money the snowflakes and leftists have to spend in 2018, and we get to watch them get all butt hurt all over again.
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November 25, 2016, 05:11 PM
greybeard9
darthfuster, thanks for sharing that video. I passed it on to a few friends who are having a hard time understanding the difference between the two.
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November 25, 2016, 05:12 PM
jljones
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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Originally posted by mbinky: No anxiety here. Let that whackjob waste everyone's money. It won't change a thing.
Yup. That much less money the snowflakes and leftists have to spend in 2018, and we get to watch them get all butt hurt all over again.
Plus, they are playing with fire. They have only seen a bit behind the curtain of what can happen if they trifle with an election. Working class America truly pissed off will make BLM look like a game of everyone-gets-a-trophy-touch football.
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November 25, 2016, 05:22 PM
46and2
Those who assert Hitler was from the far-right are generally subscribers to The Horseshoe Theory, which is a competing theory to the typical Left Right linear spectrum in Political Science.
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November 25, 2016, 05:58 PM
braillediver
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Originally posted by jljones: Working class America truly pissed off will make BLM look like a game of everyone-gets-a-trophy-touch football.
+1 It would be the Civil War part II.
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The Mysterious Case Of Jill Stein's Surging Recount Costs
"Just yesterday we noted that Jill Stein was acting on behalf of Hillary Clinton to raise money for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. As we noted then, we continue to be astonished by the amount of money flowing into the fundraising campaign and would love to see which of Hillary's mega donors have spent the most on the effort...somehow we suspect this isn't just a "grassroots organizing" effort as Stein described it." http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...urging-recount-costs
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November 25, 2016, 07:47 PM
TigerDore
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Originally posted by Paragon: I have been trying to wrap my head around all the types of government in the world.
So Hitler as not really socialist, but more fascist, as in far right. But socialism is far left...even though his party was the national socialist party. I think....
You are right, Hitler was a socialist. He opposed capitalism and vowed to defeat it. He was far left.
The idea that fascism is "far right" is a fiction invented by the left and propagandized through academia. The original Fascist Party was founded by Mussolini after he was kicked out of the Italian socialist party. He was kicked out because he embraced war as a way to bring about change and usher socialism into the country much faster. He was deemed to radical by his fellow socialists, but their end goals were similar. He was definitely a socialist as well.
Look at most of the fascist leaders of the last 100 years:
Stalin- Communist Mao - Communist Castro- Communist Hussein- Socialist Hugo Chavez- Socialist/Communist Guevara- Communist Pol Pot- Communist Ho Chi Minh- Communist The Kim Jongs- Communist
A Capitalist society can't be fascist. By its very definition, free market capitalism cannot control its people enough to run their lives in a totalitarian manner. The entire concept is irrational and sublimely idiotic, but we have accepted it because someone with a liberal arts PhD after their name told us it is so.
The modern Democratic Party is socialist. Your instincts are exactly right. They want a huge, centralized oligarchy(socialism/communism) running our country and every person in it. Calling us fascists is a pre-emptive strike and designed to muddy the waters when we return fire by pointing out they are actually the fascists. If the average, non-observant Joe is confused by who is who, so much the better for Left.
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November 25, 2016, 09:10 PM
cda926
According to the Pennsylvania statute, Jill Stein doesn't have the standing to request a recount:
The statute plainly says the difference in the vote must be 0.5 % or less. Trump took the state by just over 1%. So, even IF Michigan (16 EC votes) AND Wisconsin (10 EC votes) were overturned. We still have President Trump on 01/20/2017. Trump- 306-26 = 280!!
Only the courts or the Secretary of State (Commonwealth) can initiate a recount. This involvement would be based on a prima facie case that voter fraud had actually occurred NOT just recounting without a valid reason.
