I would prefer Gingrich, but Romney's a brilliant man and I believe he is a man of integrity. He is also well past any thoughts of being President. If he accepts the position, I am confident he will be loyal to his boss and he will do the job to the best of his considerable ability.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
FWIW Fox just reported Romney is Trump's personal top pick for SOS. This would indicate he is still listening to Bannon and others on this before announcing. Hopefully they are influencing him in another direction.

Besides Romney just being a bad pick for the most important cabinet position given the choices this will not and should not sit well with the faithful.

Romney is irrelevant and should remain so. Trump owes him nothing. If Trump feels the need to make nice offer him a low level ambassadorship somewhere and let him respectfully decline and move on.

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Originally posted by 2012BOSS302:

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Only days before the election Cuban insisted that he'd rather lose every penny he had than have a Donald Trump presidency.

Alright asshole we are waiting

I'm waiting for one, just one, of the lying anti-Trump loudmouths to keep an "if Trump wins" promise.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I'm waiting for one, just one, of the lying anti-Trump loudmouths to keep an "if Trump wins" promise.

Is there a list anywhere of those who have actually followed through with their plans to move out?
Has Para started his email campaign toward those who claimed they would do so?

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Originally posted by TigerDore:
I would prefer Gingrich, but Romney's a brilliant man and I believe he is a man of integrity. He is also well past any thoughts of being President. If he accepts the position, I am confident he will be loyal to his boss and he will do the job to the best of his considerable ability.

I'm not sure about using the term "brilliant" as being attached to Romney. He may posses some ability but he didn't have the ability to call out Obama and Candy Crowley when he was clearly and obviously set up in a debate. Had he done so he may have turned things his way but he preferred to remain meek and sit on his hands.
If he can't stand up for himself I don't expect he can stand up for the entire country. NOT a trait you would seek in one to be your Secretary Of State.

You can't write off everything said during a campaign after the battle is over. Romney had no business interjecting himself into the campaign. NONE. He is not a senator, congressman or legislator he holds no political office.
His sole purpose was to undermine Trump and do everything he could to keep him from being the nominee and once the nominee from becoming president. At the moment he decided to enter the arena in that context he not so inadvertently began campaigning for Hillary.
He represents everything Trump ran against and proved himself to be even worse, he proved himself prepared to join the left.

I'm hoping this is just some head fake by Trump and not a serious consideration.

Michigan almost official.

Tuesday was the deadline for county canvassers to send unofficial ballot counts to the Secretary of State’s Office before the Michigan Board of State Canvassers formally certifies the final ballot counts on Nov. 28.

The results that county canvassers sent to the state Tuesday will be presented to the board of canvassers to certify on Monday, after which results will be official.

In the latest counting, Trump led Clinton by 10,704 votes

http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...rump-votes/94364178/

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by 2012BOSS302:

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Only days before the election Cuban insisted that he'd rather lose every penny he had than have a Donald Trump presidency.

Alright asshole we are waiting

I'm waiting for one, just one, of the lying anti-Trump loudmouths to keep an "if Trump wins" promise.

Ironical, no?

Those who yammered on about, "Trump will/can't do this or that..." all the while writing checks their ass could never cash.

Gasbags, every last one of them.

Meanwhile, Trump is stomping mud-holes in their asses and stomping them dry.

Go Trump!

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Originally posted by vthoky:
Is there a list anywhere of those who have actually followed through with their plans to move out?

Here is the list.
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Bummer, I thought they actually meant it

The lack of calling out Obama and Crowley is not a reflection of his intellect, but it is a sad snapshot of most Republicans understanding of the fight rules, or lack thereof, for the last 25 years or so. It may be, as you said, an indication of Romney's backbone, but he is definitely a brilliant man and one who called the Russian threat four years ago even as Obama mocked him. If Trump picks him, I can see it as a good cop/bad cop team in dealing with foreign powers. In any case, Trump has gotten where he has by reading people well and surrounding himself with a strong team that complements him. I trust him to make a great decision.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:

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Originally posted by TigerDore:
I would prefer Gingrich, but Romney's a brilliant man and I believe he is a man of integrity. He is also well past any thoughts of being President. If he accepts the position, I am confident he will be loyal to his boss and he will do the job to the best of his considerable ability.

I'm not sure about using the term "brilliant" as being attached to Romney. He may posses some ability but he didn't have the ability to call out Obama and Candy Crowley when he was clearly and obviously set up in a debate. Had he done so he may have turned things his way but he preferred to remain meek and sit on his hands.
If he can't stand up for himself I don't expect he can stand up for the entire country. NOT a trait you would seek in one to be your Secretary Of State.

You can't write off everything said during a campaign after the battle is over. Romney had no business interjecting himself into the campaign. NONE. He is not a senator, congressman or legislator he holds no political office.
His sole purpose was to undermine Trump and do everything he could to keep him from being the nominee and once the nominee from becoming president. At the moment he decided to enter the arena in that context he not so inadvertently began campaigning for Hillary.
He represents everything Trump ran against and proved himself to be even worse, he proved himself prepared to join the left.

I'm hoping this is just some head fake by Trump and not a serious consideration.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I'm waiting for one, just one, of the lying anti-Trump loudmouths to keep an "if Trump wins" promise.

Is there a list anywhere of those who have actually followed through with their plans to move out?
Has Para started his email campaign toward those who claimed they would do so?

They're all still probably holding out hope for electoral college shenanigans that won't happen. THEN they'll actually be breaking their promise once he's inaugurated.

The Hill: Trump Economic Advisor Tells House Republicans ‘You’re No Longer Reagan’s Party’



Donald Trump’s economic adviser Stephen Moore told a group of top Republicans last week that they now belong to a fundamentally different political party.

Moore surprised some of the Republican lawmakers assembled at their closed-door whip meeting last Tuesday when he told them they should no longer think of themselves as belonging to the conservative party of Ronald Reagan.

They now belong to Trump’s populist working-class party, he said.
A source briefed on the House GOP whip meeting — which Moore attended as a guest of Majority Whip Steve Scalise — said several lawmakers told him they were taken aback by the economist’s comments.

“For God’s sake, it’s Stephen Moore!” the source said, explaining some of the lawmakers’ reactions to Moore’s statement. “He’s the guy who started Club for Growth. He’s Mr. Supply Side economics.”

“I think it’s going to take them a little time to process what does this all mean,” the source added of the lawmakers. “The vast majority of them were on the wrong side. They didn’t think this was going to happen.”

Asked about his comments to the GOP lawmakers, Moore told The Hill he was giving them a dose of reality.

“Just as Reagan converted the GOP into a conservative party, Trump has converted the GOP into a populist working-class party,” Moore said in an interview Wednesday. “In some ways this will be good for conservatives and in other ways possibly frustrating.”

Moore has spent much of his career advocating for huge tax and spending cuts and free trade. He’s been as close to a purist ideological conservative as they come, but he says the experience of traveling around Rust Belt states to support Trump has altered his politics.

“It turned me more into a populist,” he said, expressing frustration with the way some in the Beltway media dismissed the economic concerns of voters in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

“Having spent the last three or four months on the campaign trail, it opens your eyes to the everyday anxieties and financial stress people are facing,” Moore added. “I’m pro-immigration and pro-trade, but we better make sure as we pursue these policies we’re not creating economic undertow in these areas.”

After such a transformative experience — and after witnessing Trump’s stunning victory — Moore now believes Republican House members should be less ideologically pure and instead help Trump give the voters what he promised them.

“He wants to spend all this money on infrastructure,” Moore said, referring to Trump’s potentially trillion-dollar infrastructure package.

It’s a massive spending bill that naturally appeals far more to Democrats than Republicans. Moore, who has worked for the ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation, is not a fan of the stimulus package, but he is prepared to support it.

“I don’t want to spend all that money on infrastructure,” Moore said. “I think it’s mostly a waste of money. But if the voters want it, they should get it.”

“If Trump says build a wall then he should build a wall. If Trump says renegotiate TPP [the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal], he should renegotiate TPP.”

“Elections have consequences,” Moore added, “and I do think Donald Trump has a mandate.”

Moore says his “view on trade has adjusted a bit” over the course of the 2016 campaign.

“I used to be unilateral free trader,” he said. “If somebody wants to sell something to us at less cost than we can produce here, then do it."

“But the political reality,” he added, “is there’s a backlash against trade. Whether we like it or not we better adapt the rules in ways that benefit American workers more, or free trade is not going to flourish.

“We can scream and whine all we want but that’s reality.”

Moore is excited about large parts of Trump’s agenda. He helped write Trump’s tax plan and thinks the cuts will accelerate economic growth and create new jobs. He’s also had a hand in Trump’s energy plan and looks forward to slashing regulations hindering American energy production.

But Moore knows the days of Reaganite conservatism are probably over.

“Reagan ran as an ideological conservative. Trump ran as an economic populist,” he said.

“Trump’s victory,” Moore added, “turned it into the Trump party.”

Anything else on Mad Dog? That guy is fantastic.

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Originally posted by TigerDore:
The lack of calling out Obama and Crowley is not a reflection of his intellect, but it is a sad snapshot of most Republicans understanding of the fight rules, or lack thereof, for the last 25 years or so. It may be, as you said, an indication of Romney's backbone, but he is definitely a brilliant man and one who called the Russian threat four years ago even as Obama mocked him. If Trump picks him, I can see it as a good cop/bad cop team in dealing with foreign powers. In any case, Trump has gotten where he has by reading people well and surrounding himself with a strong team that complements him. I trust him to make a great decision.

Well I'm not so willing to couch the republicans understanding of the fight rules as a lack of understanding but perhaps more of a agreement with the policies and a lack of desire to fight them. These guys aren't complete buffoons they know what's going on and what they want.

Calling out the Russians as threat is stating the obvious. Like saying the Patriots will be a Super Bowl contender.

Given the available candidates to fill the most important of cabinet position of all choosing Romney would be a real puzzler.

Trump to make nasa great again


"President-elect Donald Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress are drawing up plans to take on the government bureaucracy they have long railed against, by eroding job protections and grinding down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation. Hiring freezes, an end to automatic raises, a green light to fire poor performers, a ban on union business on the government's dime and less generous pensions - these are the contours of the blueprint emerging under Republican control of Washington in January. These changes were once unthinkable to federal employees, their unions and their supporters in Congress. But Trump's election as an outsider promising to shake up a system he told voters is awash in "waste, fraud and abuse" has conservatives optimistic that they could do now what Republicans have been unable to do in the 133 years since the modern civil service was created."

Re. Romney as Sec. State: Look, I am no huge fan of the guy, and really disliked his attempt to undermine Trump during the campaign.

But, he just might be good at the job. He understands economic issues, and if he is willing to follow Trump's guidance, he will know how to get along well with the world leaders he will have to meet and impress to get new trade deals done. The guy has been putting together high level business deals for a long time and knows how to deal in those circles. He was also governor of a major state. Let's face it, he looks dignified and respectable.

I say, if Trump thinks he is the man for the job, I'm good with that. Shit, if Trump can forgive him for the personal attacks, who am I to hold a grudge?

Personally, I like what President Elect Trump is doing. Pick the best person for the jobs available. If they don't do the job ... then imagine what they will hear..."You're Fired!"

The guy that posted that this isn't the old Republican Party is correct. This is all new territory.

I will be forever grateful that the Clinton Crime Syndicate is now relegated to history. Imagine how the people that paid all that money must feel now? Have you ever bet on a horse you knew was going to win and instead she lost? Imagine it 20 Million times worse!

I love it. And best of all, our NRA and NAGR bet on Trump. I really really love it.

There are several whose loyalty remains reasonably in question, and Romney is squarely amongst them.

But Donald Trump is no dummy, and I'm sure he and his inner circle have accurately assessed them all.

Some picks are about actual loyalty and fit, others are about channelling Sun Tzu, some are for other reasons still - though unknown to us.

Definitely some puzzlers, definitely some risk, but all we can do now is watch and wait. Me, I don't trust Romney at all, nor Ryan, nor several others, but it's not our call. We have to at least let Trump be Trump and see what that gets us. He got us this far already...

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Originally posted by sdy:
Michigan almost official.

Tuesday was the deadline for county canvassers to send unofficial ballot counts to the Secretary of State’s Office before the Michigan Board of State Canvassers formally certifies the final ballot counts on Nov. 28.

The results that county canvassers sent to the state Tuesday will be presented to the board of canvassers to certify on Monday, after which results will be official.

In the latest counting, Trump led Clinton by 10,704 votes

http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...rump-votes/94364178/

Not that it matters. DT did not need MI to win 270 EV's.

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Originally posted by egregore:
Not everybody going into Trump HQ for an interview is going to be offered any position, or will accept one if offered. How about waiting for and seeing actual results?

Nah, that makes far too much sense. All the speculating and armchair quarterbacking is so much more fun than being sensible.

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Originally posted by radioman:

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Originally posted by sdy:
Michigan almost official.

Tuesday was the deadline for county canvassers to send unofficial ballot counts to the Secretary of State’s Office before the Michigan Board of State Canvassers formally certifies the final ballot counts on Nov. 28.

The results that county canvassers sent to the state Tuesday will be presented to the board of canvassers to certify on Monday, after which results will be official.

In the latest counting, Trump led Clinton by 10,704 votes

http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...rump-votes/94364178/

Not that it matters. DT did not need MI to win 270 EV's.

Heard on the radio this morning that some of the anti-Trump forces are demanding recounts in PA, WI, and FL. They are claiming that they were the victims of voter fraud/and or tampering with voting machines by the Russians.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
There are several whose loyalty remains reasonably in question, and Romney is squarely amongst them.

But Donald Trump is no dummy, and I'm sure he and his inner circle have accurately assessed them all.

Some picks are about actual loyalty and fit, others are about channelling Sun Zsu, some are for other reasons still - though unknown to us.

Definitely some puzzlers, definitely some risk, but all we can do now watch and wait. Me, I don't trust Romney at all, nor Ryan, nor several others, but it's not our call. We have to at least let Trump be Trump and see what that gets us. He got us this far already...

^^^^THIS^^^^