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Chris Evans is anti gun, he has been dead to me since then. I pretty much hate all celebs except Tom Selleck and Clint Eastwood.[/QUOTE] No, I am not. Oh, you meant HIM (a Dom Deluise movie character inference) We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin. "If anyone in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want their head read, because as a government, you are not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra...: Kerry Packer SIGForum: the island of reality in an ocean of diarrhoea. | |||
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I realize I must be a little dense about this. I don't understand it well enough to explain or argue it. Since the number of electoral votes in each state is based on the proportion of the state population to the country's population, wouldn't each state have just as much influence as a popular vote election? Second question: what is the explanation for the phenomenon that all the big metropolitan cities vote Democrat? Year V | |||
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_____________ "I enter a swamp as a sacred place—a sanctum sanctorum. There is the strength—the marrow of Nature." - Henry David Thoreau | |||
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I would disagree with letting the Clinton's skate if they broke the law (most likely did), sold favors to foreign country;s (most likely did), sold contributions to the State department via Clinton Foundation (likely did), mishandled classified materials and then destroyed evidence (likely did), then tell me exactly what do you need to do to warrant prosecution? the dems lost and they should pay the price for what they did for the last 8 years all of them - Holder, Lynch, Comey - the entire mob I am not particularly inclined to let any of them off the hook - why should we the dems demonstrated they would never do the same for us [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
Well, the all out media assault on Trump's inner circle has begun...  http://www.al.com/news/index.s...ml#incart_river_home Sen. Jeff Sessions could face tough Senate confirmation if a Trump Cabinet pick As one of President-elect Donald Trump's closest and most consistent allies, Sen. Jeff Sessions is a likely pick for a top post in his administration. But when Sessions faced Senate confirmation for a job 30 years ago, it didn't go well. Nominated for a federal judgeship in 1986, Sessions, R-Ala., was dogged by racist comments he was accused of making while serving as U.S. attorney in Alabama. He was said to have called a black assistant U.S. attorney "boy" and the NAACP "un-American" and "communist-inspired." Sessions was the first senator to back Trump during the campaign and is an architect of Trump's immigration, counterterrorism and trade policies. His name has been floated for attorney general and secretary of defense. The Trump transition team released a statement Thursday saying the president-elect is "unbelievably impressed" with Sessions, citing his work as a U.S. attorney and state attorney general in Alabama. But confirmation for the four-term lawmaker, even in a Republican-controlled chamber, is not guaranteed. Sessions had been confirmed by a Republican-controlled Senate in 1981 to be the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Alabama. In 1986, however, his racially-charged comments and record on civil rights as a U.S. attorney, which Sessions denied and defended, prevented his nomination as judge from going forward, even in a GOP-majority Senate. Sessions later withdrew from consideration, though he went on to become state attorney general and won election to the U.S. Senate in 1996. "Mr. Sessions is a throwback to a shameful era, which I know both black and white Americans thought was in our past," the late Massachusetts Democrat, Sen. Edward Kennedy, said during the 1986 confirmation hearing. "It is inconceivable to me that a person of this attitude is qualified to be a U.S. attorney, let alone a U.S. federal judge." During the hearing, a former assistant U.S. attorney, Thomas Figures, who is black, said Sessions referred to him as "boy," and told him to be careful what he said to "white folks." Sessions said he never called Figures "boy," but Kennedy produced a letter from an organization of black lawyers that said Figures made the allegation about Sessions to the organization's investigators at least twice. Sessions told the committee that he told Figures to be careful what he said to "folks." "I believe that the statements and actions of Mr. Sessions regarding race, and regarding civil rights, impact tremendously on whether he is decent," Figures told the committee. Figures died in 2015. Sessions was also criticized for joking in the presence of an attorney with the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division that the Ku Klux Klan was "OK" until he learned they smoked marijuana. During his confirmation hearing, he said his comment about the Klan "was a silly comment, I guess you might say, that I made." Sessions told the committee he made the joke while his office was investigating the 1981 murder of Michael Donald, a black man who was kidnapped, beaten and killed by two Klansmen who slit his throat and then hanged his body in a tree in Mobile, Alabama. The two men were later arrested and convicted. Sessions said he never meant the joke to suggest he supported the Klan. He said the joke was intended to convey that he thought it was "bizarre" that Klansmen had smoked marijuana after one of their meetings. "All of us understood that the Klan is a force for hatred and bigotry and it just could not have meant anything else than that under those circumstances," Sessions said, noting that he had been involved in the decision to try one of the killers in state court so he could face the death penalty. Sessions' spokesman said the senator was unavailable to be interviewed for this story. Barry Kowalski, a former Justice Department attorney who was in Mobile, working with Sessions on the Donald case, said he was there for the so-called joke about the Klan, and he did not interpret it as a racist comment. He said it was a joke. "That was totally hospital room humor," Kowalski told the AP Thursday. "I can only speak from what I saw," Kowalski said. "He couldn't have been more supportive of making sure we got convicted the murderers of the last black man who was lynched by the Klan." Gerry Hebert, another former Justice Department attorney who had worked with Sessions in the early 1980s, told the Judiciary committee about racist comments Sessions made regarding the NAACP being un-American and said Sessions agreed with another person's comment that a prominent white civil rights lawyer was a disgrace to his race for trying voting rights cases. "I filed all these things away thinking, 'God, what a racist this guy is,'" Hebert told The Associated Press. During Sessions' confirmation hearing, then-Sen. Joe Biden asked Hebert if he would be comfortable trying a voting rights case before Sessions as a judge or whether he would ask that Sessions be recused because of racist comments he had made. "I would certainly raise the issue, absolutely," Hebert responded. Most of the senators who voted against Sessions in 1986 are no longer alive or in office. Vermont Democrat Patrick Leahy is the only one who voted against him still in the Senate. Today, Sessions would face confirmation as a member of the chamber. Senators often are deferential to current and former members who are nominated for Cabinet posts. The last time the Senate rejected one of its own was in 1989 when then-Sen. John G. Tower, a Texas Republican, could not get confirmed as President George H. W. Bush's defense secretary amid reports of heavy drinking and womanizing. If Sessions is nominated for a position in the Trump Cabinet, his confirmation hearing could occur as early as January. The Republicans will have only a 52-48 advantage, assuming Republicans win an upcoming Senate election. That means Sessions couldn't afford to lose any votes from members of his own party. If there are Republicans upset by his comments — not just years ago about race but also what he has said in recent years about immigration — his confirmation could be a challenge. Sessions is an immigration hard-liner, not in step with mainstream Republicans. In the past year, he has supported mass deportations for immigrants in the country illegally, suggested that the administration quickly deport unaccompanied children and families who have been caught crossing the border illegally, linked terror attacks against the U.S. to Muslim immigrant families and complained that the Obama administration has increased the number of green cards issued to immigrants from "Muslim-majority countries." South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said he would support a Sessions nomination. "I'd vote for him. I like Jeff. He was the early, only supporter for Donald Trump in the Senate," Graham said. "And I believe Jeff Sessions has earned the right to serve President Trump in the highest levels, and I think he's a good, competent, capable man." Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, would also support Sessions, spokesman Conn Carroll said. "Sen. Lee has worked closely with Sessions in the Senate and has the utmost respect for his abilities," Carroll said. Sessions was asked by reporters at Trump Tower Thursday whether he thought he would be confirmed by the Senate. "People have to make that decision. The actual senators will cast those votes on any confirmation," Sessions said. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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... and just like the final Seinfeld episode, share a cell together. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin. "If anyone in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want their head read, because as a government, you are not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra...: Kerry Packer SIGForum: the island of reality in an ocean of diarrhoea. | |||
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I Understand. I'm excited about the moves he's made so far and think he'll do a good job. | |||
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| Rule #1: Use enough gun |
For one thing, states get one electoral vote for each Senator. This allows smaller or less populated states like Rhode Island or Wyoming to have a somewhat more level playing field with states like California or New York. Without the electoral college those states would have absolutely no say in the election of a President. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Seriously? He called someone "boy," and that's racist? And exactly what's untrue about the second statement? The media will stoop to new lows the next 4-8 years, if that's even possible. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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First thing you should do is take 5 minutes and watch this video that explains the Electoral College: Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU If that doesn't answer your questions, come back and post what is not clear. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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No, I am not. Oh, you meant HIM (a Dom Deluise movie character inference)[/QUOTE] "I'd consider it an honor if you'd let me ride in bomb..." You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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House GOP Warns Obama Bureaucrats: We Will Reverse ‘Midnight Rules’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...erse-midnight-rules/ The House of Representatives passed legislation, 240-to-179, allowing Congress to undo any last-minute rules and regulations put on the books in the waning days of President Barack Obama. “This bipartisan bill is about reviving the separation of powers to ensure our laws are written by the representatives we actually vote for – not unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats who are on their way out the door,” said the bill’s sponsor Rep. Darrell Issa R-CA, a former chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the current chairman of the House’s Intellectual Property Subcommittee. “Presidents of both parties have made habit of enacting scores of last-minute regulations, with little oversight, to sneak in as much of their agenda as possible before the clock runs out on their time in office,” Issa said. “The bill helps ensure this President, and any future president, will be held in check and that their policies have the proper level of scrutiny by both Congress and the American people. I’m pleased to see the House pass this important measure and look forward to its quick passage by our colleagues in the Senate,” he said. | |||
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Dont forget chris pratt in the gun friendly list What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke | |||
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That helps but I'm still stuck on the math and the proportionality issue. Year V | |||
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Every state has automatically 2 electoral votes. Then they get additional votes based on population. But there aren't THAT many states with monster populations...NY, CA, TX spring to mind. So while those states DO get more votes individually, they don't have enough to swing the whole election by themselves. Getting the big states IS important, but you have to get a bunch of little ones also. At least that's how I explain it. _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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The electoral college was designed to give STATES a voice in the election of the president. It forces a candidate to build a coalition to get elected. Without it a regional candidate could get elected and never even visit or campaign in entire sections of the country. A popular candidate from California could be elected just from votes from there plus a few urban areas. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Yes, but the math--California doesn't have more of a proportion of the population than they have a proportion of the electoral votes, right? Year V | |||
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On Sunday one of the Deputies at my agency was executed by a tweaker with a contact shot to the head (after first catching a round in the throat). President Trump called the now widow to pay respects and offer condolences. No word from the current squarer in the White House. Maybe tomorrow, eh? | |||
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| 186,000 miles per second. It's the law. |
This is exactly right. Trump is a very smart guy, and I trust him to pick a good cabinet. I am not going to sweat every damn trial balloon every single damn day. He wants to succeed, and I do believe he wants a good team. I will not second guess him. | |||
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