Originally posted by sdy: Democrats love Obama. Why ?
In 2008, DEMs had the WH, Senate and the House
2010 DEMs lost House
2014 DEMs lost Senate
2016 DEMs lost WH
I hadn't thought of it that way, maybe there is a silver lining to the cesspool.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
November 09, 2016, 02:11 PM
FrankMoses
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Originally posted by Tonyny: Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls.
I come with THE greatest reaction to Trump's presidency.
Good Lord, she needs to be beaten silly with a half rotten 20 pound carp.
November 09, 2016, 02:12 PM
Tonyny
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November 09, 2016, 02:14 PM
SapperSteel
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Originally posted by sdy: Democrats love Obama. Why ?
In 2008, DEMs had the WH, Senate and the House
2010 DEMs lost House
2014 DEMs lost Senate
2016 DEMs lost WH
Rhetorical question, or are you sincere?
The answer, in case you're sincere, is: Identity Politics.
Effectiveness mattered, of course. But what mattered more to the low-info voters who put the GDCs in power are the elements of identity politics: race, color, sexual orientation, what education/where the education came from, and so on.
So, why do they love Obama? Because: Black. Because: Moslem. Because: Ivy League. Because: Choom. Because: metrosexual/homosexual. And so on and so forth.
Same with Mrs. Clinton. Why did they love her? Because: Vagina.
See? Effectiveness is a distant second to the identity issues.
Thanks,
Sap
November 09, 2016, 02:16 PM
flashguy
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Originally posted by BGULL: Collateral damage: professional worm, and Senator, Joe Manchin (D-WV), was going to squeeze a little bit more political life out of being a dem in a turning red state(remember: “we’re going to put a lot of coal miners out of business”?) by floating that he would switch and caucus with the Republicans if the Senate went 50-50. Well the R’s don’t need him and the D’s shouldn’t want him back……
Unfortunately, the Rs are going to need at least 8 Ds with them to get anything at all done (60 votes to end a filibuster), and will need at least 15 Ds to confirm a SCOTUS appointment. In this polarized environment, those will be hard accomplishments.
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November 09, 2016, 02:18 PM
mbinky
Nuclear option. Thank Harry Reid.
November 09, 2016, 02:18 PM
Ackks
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Originally posted by PASig: SO MANY sore loser, ungracious, sour libs on social media today, LOL!
I'm convinced that liberals are just bad human beings to their core. They lecture us about "hate" and everything else then what do they go and do? EXHIBIT it to the max.
They really are. I can't believe how people on my social media are acting. Some of them are even attacking me for voting for Trump, so I'm enjoying their tears. We were 3 states away from losing the court for decades and possibly having Texas, FL, and AZ become blue states from legalized voters. I'm ecstatic he won.
November 09, 2016, 02:18 PM
SapperSteel
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Originally posted by flashguy:
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Originally posted by BGULL: Collateral damage: professional worm, and Senator, Joe Manchin (D-WV), was going to squeeze a little bit more political life out of being a dem in a turning red state(remember: “we’re going to put a lot of coal miners out of business”?) by floating that he would switch and caucus with the Republicans if the Senate went 50-50. Well the R’s don’t need him and the D’s shouldn’t want him back……
Unfortunately, the Rs are going to need at least 8 Ds with them to get anything at all done (60 votes to end a filibuster), and will need at least 15 Ds to confirm a SCOTUS appointment. In this polarized environment, those will be hard accomplishments.
flashguy
Then the SCOTUS can dwindle by four seats during the Trump Administration if the GDCs refuse to confirm.
Fuck compromise on the SCOTUS appointments. NO COMPROMISE.
Thanks,
Sap
November 09, 2016, 02:20 PM
BamaJeepster
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Originally posted by flashguy: and will need at least 15 Ds to confirm a SCOTUS appointment. In this polarized environment, those will be hard accomplishments.
It only requires a simple majority to confirm a SCOTUS nominee. However they can filibuster, which would require 60 votes to end. If it does end 53-47, the republicans would need 7 dems to overcome filibuster. The other option is the 'nuclear option' where the majority suspends the rules and only requires a simple majority to consent to the appointment.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams
November 09, 2016, 02:21 PM
Tubetone
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Originally posted by mark60:
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Originally posted by BRL: Douchebag Ryan congratulates Pence, Preibus, Sen Ron Johnson but seems to specifically exclude DJT.
I noticed that too. A lot of congrats handed out but I didn't hear any to Trump.
There is a lot of Congressional Brutus just waiting to back-stab Trump - more than they already have. For Ryan and Cruz and others, constant vigilance will be required. I hope Ryan gets replaced so a real legislative partnership could be forged.
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November 09, 2016, 02:22 PM
tatortodd
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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
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Originally posted by flashguy: and will need at least 15 Ds to confirm a SCOTUS appointment. In this polarized environment, those will be hard accomplishments.
It only requires a simple majority to confirm a SCOTUS nominee. However they can filibuster, which would require 60 votes to end. If it does end 53-47, the republicans would need 7 dems to overcome filibuster. The other option is the 'nuclear option' where the majority suspends the rules and only requires a simple majority to consent to the appointment.
Go "nuclear" on day 1.
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November 09, 2016, 02:23 PM
PHPaul
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Originally posted by Tonyny: Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls.
I come with THE greatest reaction to Trump's presidency.
OMG, talk about a poster gal for mental health issues.
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November 09, 2016, 02:32 PM
mbinky
Its war. Dems would go nuclear to push their agenda. So should the Repubs. Get the judges on the court and talk later.
November 09, 2016, 02:33 PM
lastmanstanding
So moving forward. Gulliani or Gowdy for attorney general. I think Gowdy might have more of a ax to grind and would be a bit more zealous in his pursuit of the criminal who wanted to be president. John Bolton for SOS. Sounds good to me for starters!
Wonder what Comey is thinking today? Better check my 401 see if early retirement is a possibility.
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
November 09, 2016, 02:34 PM
BamaJeepster
Barack Obama has destroyed the democrat party, but you won't hear that reported in the media.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams
November 09, 2016, 02:34 PM
tanner
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Originally posted by bald1:
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Originally posted by Tonyny: Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls.
I come with THE greatest reaction to Trump's presidency.
gotcha didn't I?