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September 27, 2017, 09:58 PM
jimmy123x
Woman dragged off Southwest plane at BWI
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
I love my hounds as much as anyone, but dogs have no business on an airplane (in cargo or with passengers). If you simply must take your dog with you (as I have several times in the past), drive.


These are my thoughts. AND, the majority of "emotional support animals" are total BS and just a way for people to bring their pet in the cabin.
September 27, 2017, 10:18 PM
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September 27, 2017, 11:28 PM
Dusty78
So if this was a seeing eye dog would it be a totally different story. Sorry buddy you have to bump into shit for your whole trip.


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September 28, 2017, 01:21 AM
YooperSigs
Amazing on all counts. Air travel is a circus, complete with animal acts.
At outrageous admission fees!


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September 28, 2017, 02:07 AM
911Boss
Just a thought....

Not all legitimate service animal uses are visible disabilities. Dogs are capable of warning their people of blood sugar issues and the onset of seizures.


I got no problem with the airline telling someone claiming to have a life threatening condition to get medical clearance before providing transportation.

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September 28, 2017, 06:09 AM
Fenris
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
I love my hounds as much as anyone, but dogs have no business on an airplane (in cargo or with passengers). If you simply must take your dog with you (as I have several times in the past), drive.

These are my thoughts. AND, the majority of "emotional support animals" are total BS and just a way for people to bring their pet in the cabin.

The airlines have a bad record of losing and or killing pets given over to their tender mercies. I would be very reluctant to check my dog.




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September 28, 2017, 11:54 AM
jimb888
"I'M WALKIN HEAH!!!! I'M WALKIN' HEAH!!!"

The interesting part about that was that the Taxi that almost hit Hoffman and Voight was not part of the scene. Hoffman extraneously pulled that out of his skilled acting ass right on the spot. The director liked it so much they left it in the movie.

From Vanity Vair: "The movie’s most iconic scene, the one where Ratso slaps the hood of a taxi and roars, in his hoarse, consumptive voice, “I’m walkin’ heah!,” was improvised. “They didn’t have the money to close down a New York street,” Hoffman says, “so they were going to steal it,” meaning the plan was to shoot the scene on the fly without getting the necessary permits. “The camera was in the van across the street,” Hoffman continues. “It was a difficult scene logistically because those were real pedestrians and there was real traffic, and Schlesinger wanted to do it in one shot—he didn’t want to cut. He wanted us to walk, like, a half a block, and the first times we did it the signal turned red. We had to stand there talking, and it was killing us, because Schlesinger was getting very upset. He came rushing out of the van, saying, ‘Oh, oh, you’ve got to keep walking.’ ‘We can’t, man. There’s fucking traffic.’ ‘Well, you’ve got to time it.’ ‘Well, we’re trying to time it.’ It’s the actors that always get the heat. It was many takes, and then the timing was right. Suddenly we were doing this take and we knew it was going to work. We got to the signal just as it went green, so we could keep walking. But it just happened—there was a real cab trying to beat the signal. Almost hit us. "



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September 28, 2017, 12:05 PM
jimb888
BTW, how is it that people think no one ever has to do a damn thing the cops say these days and there are no repercussions?

That woman should be charged, tried and convicted for that behavior. Not very smart if she is a professor. Even for a one who just happens to be a Harvard Professor of Women’s Studies and Islamic Studies. They say. http://ibloga.blogspot.co.uk/2...hly-allergic-to.html



"The woman was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct, failure to obey a reasonable and lawful order, disturbing the peace, obstructing and hindering a police officer, and resisting arrest. She was transported to the Anne County Court Commissioner before she was released on her own recognizance, police said. "



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October 07, 2017, 05:27 PM
Fenris
Is anyone terribly surprised that this anti-dog twat-waffle is a follower of Mohamhead?




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October 07, 2017, 06:17 PM
sgalczyn
Why drag her religion into this? ANY religion......


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October 07, 2017, 07:09 PM
comet24
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss:
Just a thought....

Not all legitimate service animal uses are visible disabilities. Dogs are capable of warning their people of blood sugar issues and the onset of seizures.


I got no problem with the airline telling someone claiming to have a life threatening condition to get medical clearance before providing transportation.



This. My best friend from college has a boy that was born with diabetes. It's been tough for them with a kid that young with diabetes. He got a service dog that alerts for low blood sugar. The dog often alerts before they would normally know there was an issue.


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October 07, 2017, 07:17 PM
arfmel
quote:
Originally posted by sgalczyn:
Why drag her religion into this? ANY religion......


I believe Muslims consider dogs "unclean" and contemptible, much like our friend the pig. Perhaps that was the actual source of her dissatisfaction with Fido's presence on the aircraft.
October 07, 2017, 07:25 PM
Icabod
quote:
Originally posted by sgalczyn:
Why drag her religion into this? ANY religion......


Islamics are death on dogs. The consider them unclean. Clearly, having a dog on the plane with her set this nut off. The only exceptions Seem to be dogs used to guard,and to hunt and that makes them acceptable.
I know someone that has a service dog. For real as I've seen the meltdowns she has. Twice, she's gotten into it with Islamics. The last time was in a Walmart when a kid started screaming and went to hit the service dog. His family was there and let it happen. Finally the police got called as hitting and interfearing with a service dog is quite illegal.
Remember the video of the woman going off on the veteran with a service dog? It was worse then that.
Service dogs fall under the Quran's exceptions to being unclean. However, fine points of Islamic theology often get missed or more likely ignored.
Getting back to the woman:
"Many Muslims who seem to "hate" dogs are simply afraid of them due to lack of familiarity. They may make excuses ("I'm allergic") or emphasize the religious "uncleanliness" of dogs simply in order to avoid interacting with them."
https://www.thoughtco.com/dogs-in-islam-2004392



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October 07, 2017, 08:27 PM
Scoutmaster
quote:
Originally posted by Woodman:
quote:
"life-threatening pet allergy."


And I thought the person with a "life-threatening pet allergy" would be removed after failing to provide documentation ...


That would seem to be the whole point, the passenger couldn't provide documentation re the pet allergy (seems there's a good chance she made it up, I wonder if there are any religious reasons the passenger might be antagonistic toward dogs?)




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October 07, 2017, 08:31 PM
comet24
When it reaches the level of law enforcement officers coming onto a plane to remove you just leave. At that point, the Capt. has asked for you to be removed and nothing is going to change that.

Acting like a fool isn't going to help you.


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October 07, 2017, 09:14 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
I love my hounds as much as anyone, but dogs have no business on an airplane (in cargo or with passengers). If you simply must take your dog with you (as I have several times in the past), drive.

These are my thoughts. AND, the majority of "emotional support animals" are total BS and just a way for people to bring their pet in the cabin.

The airlines have a bad record of losing and or killing pets given over to their tender mercies. I would be very reluctant to check my dog.


And, I sure as hell don't want your dog in the seat next to me either!!! I travel pretty often, I have a 100lb Rottweiler/Doberman. He stays at home or goes to his favorite kennel when I travel.

Most of these "service animals" are fake and the people don't really need a service animal. A former customer of mines 30 year old stripper girlfriend has one. She was a stripper in a strip club before he took her out of there and she has a 100k a year stipend of yoga trips to Fiji and this place and that place, Porsche turbo, etc..... she has a "service animal" and it's trained, and she flies with it, but she sure as hell doesn't need a service animal.

NOW, for the people that truly need a service animal, yes, they should be able to take it on the plane etc. But I believe this represents about 10% of the service animal owners.
October 08, 2017, 08:38 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
the passenger couldn't provide documentation re the pet allergy
First, I have no sympathy at all for the passenger in question. I am not defending her. Her claim of having an allergy might very well be fake.

But really, how many people who actually have an allergy carry documentation attesting to that allergy with them?

I have a couple of medical conditions. The only "documentation" I carry is a photo, on my phone, of an X-ray showing the reinforcing metal in my leg / hip. I show this to the security guards when I set off the metal detector at the entrance to the county courthouse.



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October 08, 2017, 08:44 AM
parabellum
No documentation necessary. Her actions reveal her lie.

If she was so deathly allergic, why was it necessary to summon the police to forcibly remove her from this are that contained this deadly threat to her?

She bluffed and lost and got handed her ass. No one's fault but her own.
October 08, 2017, 10:27 AM
Scoutmaster
From the Chicago Trib

quote:
...The woman, Anila Daulatzai, 46, has a very different account of how things unfolded.

According to her lawyers, Daulatzai, a professor at the Maryland Institute College of Art, alleges that she never asked for the dogs to be removed from the plane, never claimed to have life-threatening allergies and was never asked for medical certification. She was forced off the plane, she alleges, because of who she is: a woman of color and of the Islamic faith.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20171005-story.html



Anyone here believe her account? Seems she was doing a Kaepernick.




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October 08, 2017, 10:49 AM
car541
quote:
Originally posted by jimb888:
Harvard Professor of Women’s Studies and Islamic Studies.


She teaches irony?


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