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Mark the 400th anniversary of Pilgrims and their “colonization” I guess we’re going to have to deal with how bad it was to come here in 1620, more white guilt. https://whdh.com/news/mass-sea...to-native-americans/ | ||
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I identify as indigenous/native, and you can call me chief running dogs lick my balls … "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Will we see Elizabeth Warren there? | |||
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Several native tribes kept slaves … fwiw "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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I'm a descendant of the Smackahoe tribe, does that get me in? _____________________________________________ I may be a bad person, but at least I use my turn signal. | |||
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Maybe we should raise money to bus people in by the thousands. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
The concept you need to pay to be at the beach blows my mind. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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I've done quite a bit of reading on the colonists and the natives, and it is a complex history with a lot of gray. It turns out I am directly descended from several of the Pilgrims, so this has been a personal interest. The Pilgrims respected the natives and sought a friendly productive relationship. Some of the follow-on colonists in the next few years were not so friendly, as they were largely seeking financial gains. Though the Jamestown settlement came earlier, in 1607, the tv series "Jamestown" is a good representation of the post-Plymouth settlers of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Some pretty rough characters, and quite a contrast to the Mayflower passengers who settled Plymouth Colony. The show is also a good representation of how the natives acted in New England in the 1600's. On the other side, the natives were a mix of friendly and brutal. Before Europeans ever arrived, natives were killing each other regularly, pressing captives into slavery. After the colonists arrived, some tribes immediately waged violence against them. While the natives indeed understood how to cultivate crops in their environment, overall they were hardly low-impact environmentalists. Both sides made treaties which were, at times, in bad faith. The one thing that can't be contested is that Europeans colonized the north American continent and displaced the existing native population. However, it is also true that those natives were not the first people on the continent, meaning they also displaced previous populations. It turns out this is the history of the planet, where a more successful population displaces a less successful one, extending to all species not just humans. Social Darwinism. Anyhow, there isn't a single one of us alive today who was involved in any of those events on either side, so none of us are victims and none of us are oppressors. Neither side was without blame or honor. | |||
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I’m not too familiar with that part of the county, but is there a vast Native American population clamoring to get a sunburn and a bowl of chowda that would necessitate free admission? Some board or committee will be funded by the feds to market and implement an otherwise silly program with negligible impact. P229 | |||
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