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The Death of Expertise
December 21, 2017, 03:32 PM
enidpd804The Death of Expertise
Has anyone read it? It's an excellent book.
BookAnyone on an Internet forum has experienced it. Hidden Instant Karma: I'll buy a copy for the first three people who post that they want one.
December 21, 2017, 03:44 PM
DrDanLet me Google that for you...
The Internet gives us easy access to knowledge, but knowledge should not be confused with understanding.
I'll take a copy, thanks.
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enidpd804quote:
Originally posted by DrDan:
Let me Google that for you...
The Internet gives us easy access to knowledge, but knowledge should not be confused with understanding.
I'll take a copy, thanks.
Yes, sir. Please email me a shipping address.
December 21, 2017, 03:55 PM
V-TailI would be interested in reading this.
It appears that the Kindle edition is the lowest cost; that would work fine for me.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים December 21, 2017, 03:56 PM
lymanlucky 3rd please
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December 21, 2017, 03:58 PM
DresdenI've read it, and I follow Tom Nichols on Twitter. It's an excellent work.
December 21, 2017, 04:02 PM
enidpd804quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
I would be interested in reading this.
It appears that the Kindle edition is the lowest cost; that would work fine for me.
Whatever you like. I enjoy hardbacks myself. Please mail me with your choice and delivery information.
December 21, 2017, 04:03 PM
enidpd804quote:
Originally posted by lyman:
lucky 3rd please
Great! Please email me a shipping address.
December 21, 2017, 04:07 PM
enidpd804quote:
Originally posted by Dresden:
I've read it, and I follow Tom Nichols on Twitter. It's an excellent work.
It's among the best books I have ever read on the human condition. Between that and the Dunning-Kruger study, the Internet makes sense.
December 21, 2017, 04:17 PM
GustoferI'll have to read this. It's interesting that you brought this up now as I was just commenting to someone the other day that I believe that despite (or perhaps because of) having instant access to all of the information available in the world, people are dumber than ever. There is no need to learn anything anymore. I am interested in hearing this guy's take on it.
On a certain level, I don't care for the internet and I believe that we were better off without it. Unfortunately, it's nearly a necessity.
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"Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton.
December 21, 2017, 04:25 PM
rusbroMeh. I probabaly already know everything in that book, and most of the rest of 'em.
December 21, 2017, 04:28 PM
Rey HRHSince I'm late to the party, anyone who knows want to give me the gist to the story? Thank you.
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
December 21, 2017, 04:37 PM
jhe888Boy. I don't know how many times my prospective clients and clients come in and tell me that they know how their case should go, how it should be handled, and what the law definitively IS.
I have yet to ask one of them why they are even bothering to talk to me if they are so certain that they know how to do it already, but one of these days . . .
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. December 21, 2017, 04:44 PM
JALLENThanks for the heads up on this. I downloaded a sample into my Kindle, and will acquire the full book with the Amazon gift cards I’m about to come into.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown December 21, 2017, 04:50 PM
enidpd804quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH:
Since I'm late to the party, anyone who knows want to give me the gist to the story? Thank you.
No story exactly. The book is about the Dunning-Kruger effect and why people tend to not understand their ignorance/arrogance on technical topics.
December 21, 2017, 04:54 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
Boy. I don't know how many times my prospective clients and clients come in and tell me that they know how their case should go, how it should be handled, and what the law definitively IS.
I have yet to ask one of them why they are even bothering to talk to me if they are so certain that they know how to do it already, but one of these days . . .
Hahahaha!
One of Edward Bennett Williams’ stories was about a big shot clent named Goldfine.
quote:
Goldfine hired so many lawyers that prosecutors joked that he didn’t have an attorney, he had a bar association. His counsel ranged from Sam Sears, a well-known Boston trial lawyer, to Ralph Slobodkin, who collected unpaid bills, procured girls for Goldfine, and ran out for cigarettes. In the winter of 1960, Williams went to see Goldfine as he sat in jail for contempt of Congress for refusing to answer questions in the Sherman Adams affair. Williams found an old, gray-haired man with a heavy Yiddish accent. After making small talk for a few minutes, Williams raised the fact that Goldfine had not filed any returns for the years in question. “I’m sorry,” Williams said, “but you don’t have a defense.” Goldfine greeted this news stonily. A few minutes later, when Williams excused himself to go to the men’s room, Goldfine turned to Sam Sears and said, “Who does that young momzer from Washington think he is, telling me I have no defense? Defense? If I had a defense, I’d still have Slobodkin!”
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown December 21, 2017, 10:23 PM
enidpd804I can only imagine what attorneys must suffer in this regard. Everyone is an expert in the law, it would seem.
December 21, 2017, 10:36 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by enidpd804:
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
I would be interested in reading this.
It appears that the Kindle edition is the lowest cost; that would work fine for me.
Whatever you like. I enjoy hardbacks myself.
Please mail me with your choice and delivery information.
There's no email address in your profile.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים December 21, 2017, 11:15 PM
rusbroThe author was interviewed for about an hour and a half recently on Sam Harris’ “Waking Up” podcast. The episode is titled “Defending the Experts.” Not to sidetrack, but fair warning - most all here will not be pleased with some of Harris’ political positions, and the fact that he’s very critical of religion, but IMO he conducts really insightful, in-depth interviews and is razor sharp on some topics, such as ethics, Islam and the threats technology poses.
Listen to #108 — Defending the Experts from Waking Up with Sam Harris in Podcasts.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/po...mt=2&i=1000397274891December 22, 2017, 03:14 AM
enidpd804quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by enidpd804:
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
I would be interested in reading this.
It appears that the Kindle edition is the lowest cost; that would work fine for me.
Whatever you like. I enjoy hardbacks myself.
Please mail me with your choice and delivery information.
There's no email address in your profile.
enidpd804@yahoo.com