And on queue, monumental douchebag and perpetually angry, dissatisfied leftist nutcase Herr Keith Olbermann pisses and moans. I want this sack of garbage of of my planet:
Good news. I don't know much about pardons but can a pardon Sgt Perry's record of a murder conviction? I hope so. I also hope Keith Olbermann dies a very slow and painful death. I abhor that excuse of a human.
Notice how Herr Olbermann is perfectly fine with someone wielding a Kalashnikov-type rifle (not an "AK-47" as everyone keeps saying) and defending its use when the user's political beliefs align with his. Put that same rifle in the hands of anyone who disagrees with his politics, and it's a crime as far as he is concerned, merely by its possession.
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I can't blame the man for taking the pardon - fighting a jury decision is brutally tough and rarely works. But this jury decision (IMHO) was such utter BS that no reasonable jury (as opposed to a jury hand-picked by an activist lefty prosecutor) could have come up with that verdict based on the facts and law.
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Insanity. He is still a convicted felon. I assume that means he is a restricted person who cant have weapons even after the pardon? Scares me even living in the state of Utah as Salt lake county has the same type of liberal D.A. who would file charges to appease his base or to score political points.
Posts: 7748 | Location: West Jordan, Utah | Registered: June 19, 2007
Good for Abbott on this. I had heard yesterday that when his office was queried on this, he deferred to the Attorney General's office. That was very disappointing to hear, so this is good news.
Next question is, which way does the Board of Pardons and Paroles lean, and are they likely to recommend parole? Hopefully so, and hopefully this young man's record will be completely expunged.
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I'm at a loss to understand how the DA hid exculpatory evidence, this was known to the defense attorney and yet the trial proceeded and resulted in conviction?
Something is off about the exculpatory evidence part. Assuming the DA engaged in shenanigans, how is that known 48 hours after the verdict? It seems that a quick motion to vacate or set aside the verdict would be in order.
I'm not familiar with Texas law on this stuff but in my state a DA would be in a lot of trouble if they had exculpatory evidence, destroyed or withheld it from the defense despite requests.
What's the exculpatory evidence that was tucked away? Why do we know it's exculpatory hours after the verdict?
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Originally posted by Flashlightboy: I'm at a loss to understand how the DA hid exculpatory evidence, this was known to the defense attorney and yet the trial proceeded and resulted in conviction?
Info was withheld during testimony to the grand jury
Something is off about the exculpatory evidence part. Assuming the DA engaged in shenanigans, how is that known 48 hours after the verdict?
The detective couldn’t talk about it until the case was over
It seems that a quick motion to vacate or set aside the verdict would be in order.
I agree, once the judge heard that he should have delved into it
I'm not familiar with Texas law on this stuff but in my state a DA would be in a lot of trouble if they had exculpatory evidence, destroyed or withheld it from the defense despite requests.
I hope so it will be the same here
What's the exculpatory evidence that was tucked away? Why do we know it's exculpatory hours after the verdict?
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We saw exculpatory evidence hidden by the Prosecutor in the Baltimore Freddy Gray cases and in the Oklahoma Officer Involved Shooting case (female officer went to trial and was acquitted as the detective and other officers came forward with information the Prosecutor never disclosed to the defense). They did it in all these cases by leaving the main Detective off of the witness list.
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Originally posted by jsbcody: We saw exculpatory evidence hidden by the Prosecutor in the Baltimore Freddy Gray cases and in the Oklahoma Officer Involved Shooting case (female officer went to trial and was acquitted as the detective and other officers came forward with information the Prosecutor never disclosed to the defense). They did it in all these cases by leaving the main Detective off of the witness list.
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Originally posted by jsbcody: We saw exculpatory evidence hidden by the Prosecutor in the Baltimore Freddy Gray cases and in the Oklahoma Officer Involved Shooting case (female officer went to trial and was acquitted as the detective and other officers came forward with information the Prosecutor never disclosed to the defense). They did it in all these cases by leaving the main Detective off of the witness list.
And he's available to be subpoenaed by the defense. The DA can't squirrel him away and the defense could have easily served him. Saying there's exculpatory falls short of actually having any.
The whole idea of exculpatory evidence being discovered hours after the verdict is really bizarre. Perhaps what everyone means is that during pretrial motions the judge didn't allow or excluded some potential evidence. Could be on relevance, prejudice v. probabtive, cumulative or something else.
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Originally posted by Gustofer: Good for Abbott on this. I had heard yesterday that when his office was queried on this, he deferred to the Attorney General's office. That was very disappointing to hear, so this is good news.
Why be disappointed? The Governor's office doesn't have an investigative arm but the AG's office does. Additionally, Travis County DA is a shitstain and the AG's office can bring charges if he did conceal exculpatory evidence.
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Posts: 23940 | Location: Northern Suburbs of Houston | Registered: November 14, 2005
Originally posted by parabellum: Who cares? He shouldn't have been found guilty, and he's being pardoned.
A pardon doesn't restore him to his preconviction status. He's still a convicted person and Abbott pardoning him does not make him untainted or whole again.
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