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Switchgrass is a perennial that the parent rooting can live for 10 or more years. It requires far less fertilizer. It can thrive in poor soil. It needs almost no water it doesn’t get from the environment. It actually controls soil erosion and outcompetes weeds and needs no pesticides. It can grow from Mexico to Canada. It has a much higher fuel yield per acre than corn. It is far less labor intensive. It is a prairie grass native to North America. There is no reason not to make the jump to it if we are looking at biofuels for the long haul. Except for $$$.


Exactly. The goal of producing ethanol wasn't to help the environment or find a replacement for oil. It was to set up a distribution of wealth to specific people and companies. Many 'save the environment' initiatives look like they're using a similar playbook.


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... you'd be better off to buy Star-Tron Ethanol fuel additives, Sta-Bil or check with the small engine places, even Home Depot/Lowes they sell products to work in your Ethanol fuel.
It is my understanding there is no additive that can prevent ethanol-polluted gasoline from phase-separating.



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Neat part is, nobody is making anyone have to run it, you can always buy non ethanol based fuels, at least here we can, older boats, motorcycles, small engines etc depend on it.



We can't here. At least nowhere that I've found in this state. The closest gas station that has ethanol free is in Maine on the NH border not far off of NH-16. But about an hour and a half drive at least.
Nearest station selling ethanol-free gas is more than 50 miles from my house. I'd burn at least 4 gallons just making the trip to get it, and it isn't worth it.

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Tomorrow, Sunday, is supposed to be a cool day down here and so a guy I know is going to spend the day making ethanol .... but it won't be for driving... but drinking.... don't know how much that will add to climate change....


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