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My dentist started requiring it as well.


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Posts: 5967 | Location: Hampton Bays, NY | Registered: October 14, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Temperature check and a peroxide rinse. Not to mention the $10 added covid surcharge.


 
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There was a Steven Wright comedy skit from the late 80's, I'm on my work machine and they block youtoob so I can't post it. One of his segments was about how he has a hot hygienist. He said he eats a full box of Oreos right before he goes in to get his teeth cleaned. Big Grin


I remember that one!! One of my favorites.

Back in June, when I went to the dentist, they "made" me do the peroxide rinse. It's absolutely noxious to me.

I just went again this week and they tried it again. I made a face, and she said "you don't have to do it", so this time I passed.


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I’ve been going to the dentist for neigh on 50 years and I’ve only ever been told to rinse with their fluoride treatment...

I’d ask him if the iodine rinse is for C19....if the answer is yes, ask him for documentation how it makes him safe from you couching in the room....then I’d ask him if he needs me to pay his Bill or should I take my money elsewhere...this continual fear monger it has to be stopped.

If the rinse is for reducing bacteria, tell him the stuff tastes terrible and is there another product or tell him you will be going elsewhere, as you have never had to do it before.



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I have never heard of this. A Google search revealed this:

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The result of this study revealed that 1% Povidone Iodine used as a pre-procedural mouthrinse has a bactericidal effect in the microorganism concentration resulting to the reduction of surviving microorganisms up to four hours which is the limitation of the study.


Except OVID-19 is a virus, not a bacterium, and that statement is specific to the iodine rinse working on bacteria. I’ve not heard of dentists requiring an oral disinfectant be used prior to a cleaning, though given how germ-laden the mouth is, it makes some semblance of sense.





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They also require you to brush your teeth before coming.


Well, that's just plain common courtesy.

Who rolls into the dentist's office with unbrushed teeth?


One time, when I was 7 or 8, I rolled into the dentist's office after eating Oreo cookies. Not the best visit I ever had... Eek


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Since Covid started my dentist requires a rinse also.

It's really simple. I can't imagine what the worry is about.

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Mine uses the Peroxide version. I don't see that as a bad idea and it wasn't unpleasant at all.


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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I have never heard of this. A Google search revealed this:

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The result of this study revealed that 1% Povidone Iodine used as a pre-procedural mouthrinse has a bactericidal effect in the microorganism concentration resulting to the reduction of surviving microorganisms up to four hours which is the limitation of the study.


Same Medical link page, additional article states it helps reduce bacterial issues.

Abstract Aim: To investigate rinsing with povidone-iodine on bacteraemia caused by ultrasonic scaling. Material and methods: Sixty patients with gingivitis undertook a randomized, placebo-controlled trial in which 30 rinsed with 0.9% saline and 30 with 7.5% povidone-iodine for 2 min. before ultrasonic scaling of FDI teeth 31-35. Blood samples before and after 30 s and 2 min. of scaling were cultured by lysocentrifugation. Results: Oral bacteraemia occurred in 33.3% of the saline group and 10% of the povidone-iodine group. Regression analysis showed that rinsing with povidone-iodine was approximately 80% more effective than rinsing with saline in reducing the occurrence of bacteraemia, with a statistically significant odds ratio (OR) of 0.189 (95% confidence intervals, OR=0.043-0.827). There were 24 oral bacterial isolates in the saline group and 3 in the povidone-iodine group. Viridans streptococci comprised 11 of the isolates in the saline group and none in the povidone-iodine group. Bacteraemia magnitude was 0.1 colony-forming units/ml in the povidone-iodine subjects and 0.1-0.7 CFU/ml in the saline group. Conclusions: Rinsing with 7.5% povidone-iodine reduced the incidence and magnitude of bacteraemia and eliminated viridans streptococci from such bacteraemia. Povidone-iodine rinsing may be helpful for ultrasonic scaling of gingivitis patients at risk of infective endocarditis.

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Again, I am not saying the iodine rinse is ineffective. I am wondering if it's more effective than Listerine (mint version). If Listerine is just as effective and tastes better, why do they not use that? The dentist has been having patients use mouthwash for years...although I don't know what brand.
 
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but with a hydrogen peroxide solution instead of iodine.


Same here with a temp check and a questionnaire.


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My dentist requires a rinse. First time it was something similar to Listerine... not bad tasting. The last time it was Peroxide which isn't bad. I rinse with peroxide at home followed by a water rinse after a minute. I guess ingesting a tiny bit of peroxide won't kill you, but I wonder about Iodine.



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My dentist requires a rinse. First time it was something similar to Listerine... not bad tasting. The last time it was Peroxide which isn't bad. I rinse with peroxide at home followed by a water rinse after a minute. I guess ingesting a tiny bit of peroxide won't kill you, but I wonder about Iodine.


Iodine is used in many hiking/camping drinking water purification tablets/drops/etc, so no, a little bit won't hurt you.
 
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Iodine is used in many hiking/camping drinking water purification tablets/drops/etc, so no, a little bit won't hurt you.


Yes. The first water purification tablets I ever saw (WWII vintage, IIRC) were iodine. We were living in Verdun, France, in 1954 and were advised not to drink the local water. My parents preferred boiling it, but the tablets were available if needed (didn't taste good).

Much later, but before the portable filters, a backpacking magazine recommended a process that used pure iodine crystals in a portable kit to prepare a purification solution.




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Iodine is used in many hiking/camping drinking water purification tablets/drops/etc, so no, a little bit won't hurt you.


Yes. The first water purification tablets I ever saw (WWII vintage, IIRC) were iodine. We were living in Verdun, France, in 1954 and were advised not to drink the local water. My parents preferred boiling it, but the tablets were available if needed (didn't taste good).

Much later, but before the portable filters, a backpacking magazine recommended a process that used pure iodine crystals in a portable kit to prepare a purification solution.


When I was a Boy Scout twenty years ago, my favorite backcountry water purification product was a thing called Polar Pure. Portable filters were just getting popular, but they were heavier and fussier than the ones available now.

Polar Pure is a small glass jar with a screened opening and maybe a tablespoon worth of small elemental iodine beads inside. You keep some water in the jar, some of the elemental iodine dissolves into the water, then you pour the water (but not the beads, which the screen keeps in the jar) into the container you want to purify. The water needs to spend a certain amount of time in the jar (an hour, I think?) to dissolve enough iodine to be effective.

Polar Pure has two main things going for it:

1. Most iodine water purification products use various iodine compounds as the active ingredient. Pure elemental iodine doesn't taste nearly as bad.

2. The fact that you're using small amounts of pure elemental iodine that dissolve off of beads of pure elemental iodine means there are a LOT of doses. The little glass jar treats about 500 gallons of water.

For a while, Polar Pure wasn't available - I read somewhere that they stopped being able to source the pure elemental iodine beads. It seems to be back now, though.
 
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My dentist is doing something similar, but with a hydrogen peroxide solution instead of iodine.


Mine too.
 
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Visited dentist just this past Wednesday. Temp check before even being allowed inside the building. Had to fill out a form concerning possible COVID symptoms and/or contact ... before being allowed inside the building. Only when seated in dental chair in treatment room was I allowed to remove my mask. Had to rinse with "something" before anything was done. Just handed a small cup of something and told to rinse and spit back into cup. Didn't say how long to rinse for and don't think it was a particular COVID precaution. Simply routine.

Previous dentists visit was in November and a couple of days following the appointment, I got a call from my dentist's office to inform me that it turned out, a COVID positive dental patient had visited their practice. They were just contacting recent patients to inform them/us.
 
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I guess ingesting a tiny bit of peroxide won't kill you, but I wonder about Iodine.


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