I don't know if it's range type specific or California specific (most likely). How come everyone that works at a range here are hyper tactical, super loud, overly aggressive, and turned a $600 Glock into a $2000 Glock - which I think is awesome. Maybe I'm stereo typing?

Because we’re not allowed to buy cool guns. We can only make the bland ones cool(er) by dumping money into them.

If I had to guess, I’d say you visited Field Time Tactical in Stanton.

I think Taran Butler has a certain amount of influence in So Cal.

I had a great experience at the South Bay Rod and Gun club in Dulzura.

I have not been back to Fullerton for decades. But if I was still there, I would miss the now gone Santiago Range near Santa Ana.

Friend lives in the Bay. The stories I’ve heard are hilarious. Tactitard nation. He and his friends drive out to government land to shoot now they are so tired of it.

It can be like that here too. My local range is indoors, and I hold a membership and have for many years. If you’ve been to an indoor range you know the deal. I walk in there with my EDC one day, small bag, my small “rig” for going to the range. Few spare range mags, 200-300 rounds of ammo, earpro, eye pro. I’m stopping by to shoot my EDC a few hundred rounds and bail. This is mid summer so it’s 102 in the day and will be 92 or 93 at 9:30pm. It’s fucking hot as fuck here in the summer and humid as fuck too. I was running errands so standard dress here. Board shorts with belt loops, t, flip flops. I walk into the range and take my sunglasses off heading to the counter to check in. A guy has a long sleeve camo type shirt on, brown pants, and some sort of boots, and I don’t mean cowboy boots. Tacti-boots, and a hat. Fucker has the nerve to see me and say “sandals to the gun range! Tee hee hee, never seen that before”. I smile at him and ask if we’re running TAC drills today at the indoor range John Rambo as it will be the first I’ve ever heard of it here? Employees know me and start laughing at him. I mean all of them. He looks at them laughing, looks back at me and says “what do you do if hot brass hits your foot” and I say the same got damn thing I do when it hits my arm, hand, leg, whatever, flick it off. Anyone but a damn newb has had brass go down your shirt and get stuck on your chest somewhere with you acting like a little girl to grab your shirt and dislodge the casing. It’s just not a major thing. What am I supposed to do, grab a vest, armor, ear piece and play pretend SWAT or spec ops? Those same clowns at the range are the ones who bring 50 rounds and spend an hour and half shooting it, festering the whole time. I’ll drop 200-300 rounds in less than half an hour and leave.

I’ve got no inkling to go to a rodeo but if I did and it’s hot as fuck, same dress. I’m sure there I’d find more ridicule from an idiot in full Ariat logo’d gear with dry cleaned creased pants, cowboy hat, vest, the whole 9. People are just fucking idiots. Not everyone wants to go to the concert wearing a t-shirt of the band playing at the concert.

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Dude that is a bigass avatar pic you have.

I couldn’t deal with public ranges in CA anymore. I had a friend with family land not too far but only when he was there shooting. In free America legally I can shoot on my land but don’t want to make my neighbors hate me so next best is a private club range open most days. They pretty much can do anything as long as it’s safe. No full auto though

At least they are actually at a gun range. Back when I first moved to GA in 2000 there was a cool little internet/catalog milsurp store that had a warehouse storefront in my town. Most of the stuff IIRC was new/non-issued stuff, but you could go buy A.L.I.C.E. packs and LBVs and pretty much any other issued item. They also had some used stuff, a decent selection of holsters, knives and general camping/survival gear.

Then came the GWOT and by the mid 2000’s the staff all had high and tights and were blousing their tan BDU trousers into their desert boots. Prices shot way up and the selection decreased to tacticool only. Then they started limiting sales of many items to LE/Mil only including most knives. My breaking point was when they refused to sell me a pair of Altima boots because I was a civilian and Altima supposedly restricted sales. I bought them online directly from Altima and when they came in I went to show the manager and saw they’d posted a sign restricting concealed carry in the store except to LE/Mil. The worst part is they actually wanted you to check your firearm at the counter. Yeah, no thanks I’m not walking into a retail store where 18yo kids who can’t hack it in the real military play dress-up and finger fuck loaded handguns at the register.

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Dude that is a bigass avatar pic you have.

Mr. Truong has special dispensation to show us his amazing creation in great detail. We all enjoy looking at it. Some on this forum own the ring. It is rumored that it has special powers.

In the mid 70's, I belonged to the Winchester Canyon Gun Club in Santa Barbara. It has expanded a lot since then and was one of the best clubs I ever belonged.

https://www.wcgc.org/

Went to Chabot Gun Club in Northern California.

The range master spent full time yelling at people over the P.A. pretty much nonstop.

Then, he suddenly appeared next to me and said I was shooting tracers.

I opened the action of my rifle and handed him my .45-70 round. He just stared at it like it was a snake and then took off. No apology, nothing. A real ahole.

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Went to Chabot Gun Club in Northern California.

The range master spent full time yelling at people over the P.A. pretty much nonstop.

Then, he suddenly appeared next to me and said I was shooting tracers.

I opened the action of my rifle and handed him my .45-70 round. He just stared at it like it was a snake and then took off. No apology, nothing. A real ahole.

See, that's how Custer lost, the Indians could see the tracers, and were able to direct fire on those positions.

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I had a great experience at the South Bay Rod and Gun club in Dulzura.

That brings back memories. I had many friends in the Dulzura, Jamul area. We used to 4 wheel out by Otay Mesa, and did a lot of rabbit and coyote hunting on my friend's pig farm in Dulzura. Good times.

That is where we did most of our shooting, or out in the desert. I don't think I ever went to a "range" in all my years in Kali.

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Went to Chabot Gun Club in Northern California. Their lease wasn't renewed by the city or county.

Unfortunately, that place has been shut down.

I don't remember seeing any tacticool people at the gun ranges. It was more like people at a peep show place enjoying their guilty pleasure and not being condemned by anyone there.

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Went to Chabot Gun Club in Northern California. Their lease wasn't renewed by the city or county.

Unfortunately, that place has been shut down.

I don't remember seeing any tacticool people at the gun ranges. It was more like people at a peep show place enjoying their guilty pleasure and not being condemned by anyone there.

Shut down using EPA regs, local hikers and Eco-Terrorists used lead clean up regulations to outspend and force the club to close because they didn't like it being there.

The East Bay Regional Park District’s directors voted unanimously in March to close the 65-acre gun club, saying the range could not afford to pay the costs of meeting stricter environmental standards governing the cleanup of lead contamination from spent bullets. The decision ended a contentious two-year battle between the park district and the club, pitting gun owners against environmentalists, who were concerned about the impact on water and wildlife, as well as nearby residents and hikers, who complained about the sound of gunshots coming from the range.

Link to Article

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Originally posted by davetruong:

Dude that is a bigass avatar pic you have.

Mr. Truong has special dispensation to show us his amazing creation in great detail. We all enjoy looking at it. Some on this forum own the ring. It is rumored that it has special powers.

Agree ... the silver work detail is amazing. Wished I had bought one of the rings.

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Wished I had bought one of the rings.

You still can, in silver, gold, etc...

https://www.2amolonlabe.com/home

My experience was pretty much the same the last time I shot in California.

Minus the $2000 Glocks.

A bunch of Uber Tactical Dudes yelling, screaming... SUPER aggressive!
"You better un-fuck yourself now or you're going to die!"

"Put the goddamn magazine in the fucking gun and put a round in the fucking chamber NOW, NUMNUTS!"

One of the ultra aggressive ones hit you with a stick if you pointed your weapon at your buddy.

Extremely rude people. But Marine Corps drill instructors and Marines in general aren't known for their politeness. However, I did learn a whole mess of good, important stuff about putting a bullet on target quickly! So they got that going for them...