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The Trump Presidency : Year IV
June 13, 2024, 09:02 AM
chellim1The Trump Presidency : Year IV
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I would most like J.D. Vance to be in office. But should that “performance in office” qualification rank higher than the “winning the election” qualification? A dispassionate analysis would suggest Burgum, but passion plays a part. I think Trump will choose Burgum or Vance, maybe Scott. Everyone else is a wild card.
So, what will Trump do? Any damn thing he wants. Like cats, he reacts to stimuli we cannot sense. Who knows what he is thinking, but you know, after nearly a decade of Trump-centric politics, I’m inclined to trust his gut.
Yep. Who knows? Only Trump knows.
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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
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-rduckwor June 13, 2024, 09:07 AM
nhracecraftquote:
Originally posted by BMR:
Really good article regarding VP pick from Kurt Schlichter today. One person who has been mentioned in the past who I think would be a great pick is Mike Pompeo - West Point grad, congressman, Director of CIA, Secretary of State, and a very big China hawk.
Mike Pompeo does have 'good credentials'...Too bad he's a Deep Stater and under the thumb of the establishment! Honestly, I don't trust him to do the right thing(s), and he's shown that he shouldn't be trusted based on some of his activities while heading the CIA and the State Dept!
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June 13, 2024, 09:44 AM
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June 13, 2024, 11:53 AM
bronicabillquote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
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Mike Pompeo does have 'good credentials'...Too bad he's a Deep Stater and under the thumb of the establishment! Honestly, I don't trust him to do the right thing(s), and he's shown that he shouldn't be trusted based on some of his activities while heading the CIA and the State Dept!
No way would I want Pompeo as veep! Ex-CIA??? That right there means big distrust from me, and probably many other voters!
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June 13, 2024, 12:20 PM
6gunsAgree, Pompeo would be last on my list of potential picks. He appears to be a big ally, but I don't have the trust either. And as for appearance and public image, he's not going to help in any way! As much as we hate to admit it, this is a factor.
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June 13, 2024, 12:24 PM
parabellumScrew Mike Pompeo. He's just another backstabber
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June 13, 2024, 12:29 PM
sigmonkeyIt's how we got Bushes in the Rose Garden...
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bald1Screw Pompeo deep state hack. I'm still in Ben Carson's corner with J.D. Vance second.
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June 13, 2024, 01:02 PM
BMRI’d take JD way before Carson for all the reasons Kurt Schlichter mentioned. For one thing, it would be highly entertaining to see him eviscerate Kamala in in the debates.
June 13, 2024, 02:06 PM
oddballquote:
Originally posted by BMR:
Really good article regarding VP pick from Kurt Schlichter today. One person who has been mentioned in the past who I think would be a great pick is Mike Pompeo
Pompeo threw Trump under the bus in regards to the Mar-A-Lago raid. And of course has been throwing tidbits like this dissing his former boss.
One thing to remember about JD Vance- he was a staunch Never-Trumper for the first couple of years of Trump's presidency, also slamming him during his 2016 campaign. Calling Trump "reprehensible", "cultural heroin" and "America's Hitler", in the middle of Trump's first term, he softened his view, then later apologizing to Trump after leaving office.
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June 13, 2024, 02:10 PM
BMRI did not realize Pompeo had been that way. Never mind on Pompeo, then, and I appreciate the explanation.
June 13, 2024, 05:14 PM
bald1quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
One thing to remember about JD Vance- he was a staunch Never-Trumper for the first couple of years of Trump's presidency, also slamming him during his 2016 campaign. Calling Trump "reprehensible", "cultural heroin" and "America's Hitler", in the middle of Trump's first term, he softened his view, then later apologizing to Trump after leaving office.
Whereas Ben Carson has NEVER wavered in his support of Trump.
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June 13, 2024, 07:35 PM
sigalertThere’s a clip of Trump and (Logan?) Paul doing a fake weigh in stand off that is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time.
Little worried about Trump. He flinched first.

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nhtagmemberSounds like something worth trying. It would certainly necessitate a substantial reduction in the size of government.
June 13, 2024, 08:44 PM
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June 13, 2024, 10:46 PM
P220 SmudgeSo of course they're trying to say it only benefits the top 1% of earners and hurts the middle and lower class the most.
These fucking people, I swear. So transparent.

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June 14, 2024, 05:29 AM
Black92LXRemoving the income tax and replacing it with a tariff on imports would essentially be a “consumption tax” on foreign goods correct?
I am all for it! I have had some sort of payroll job with taxes deducted since I was 15. I deal with so many folks that have never actually worked a day in their life and their houses and apartments are stacked with Nike shoes, clothes, every video game system and games stacked to the ceiling.
I am all for it. “The rich” would be paying way more than the “lower class and middle class” because they buy a ton more stuff.
That article says:
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since tens of millions of Americans who pay no federal income taxes would presumably fall under Trump’s tariff plan, “this sounds like a huge tax increase on the lower/middle income classes.”
I am middle class and pay way too much in income taxes, way too much!!!! These lower class folks aren’t working and I take issue with that. So if I understand correctly how this will work and unless the tariff is some astronomical percentage I am pretty sure I would be all for it.
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June 14, 2024, 07:38 AM
chellim1quote:
I am middle class and pay way too much in income taxes, way too much!!!! These lower class folks aren’t working and I take issue with that. So if I understand correctly how this will work and unless the tariff is some astronomical percentage I am pretty sure I would be all for it.
Correct. Only about half the people in this country pay federal income taxes.
Taxation works best when widely and evenly applied. The graduated income tax hits the middle and striving to be upper-middle the hardest. For many, it's actually a dis-incentive to work because they can make more on "public assistance" than a low-wage job.
This has to change.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor June 14, 2024, 07:40 AM
LeemurOne of my part time employees asked me what happened to the quarterly bonus. Told him it was on the check this week. He was expecting the full amount. Government hit him for 27%. My advice was, “Think about this when you vote. Don’t vote for the guy promising to tax the rich cause it eventually reaches you too. Vote to reduce taxes and government spending.”
The economy was great under Trump. Inflation is a monster tax. Who caused it? I may have created a constitutionalist.