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If Fani and her paramour are removed, that's likely going to be the end of the case, but the judge is not operating under this assumption. He has ruled and will rule on the motions before him, and that's all.
 
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I don't really know how it works, but I suppose if willis and wade are outed, the state could decide to start over with new prosecutors. I doubt the state would do this, so if they are dumped, I'll consider the case essentially over.
 
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It would mean starting over with entire new staff. All of Fani's and Lover's people would be removed.

Therefore...
 
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The Willis case is just about her ability to remain as prosecutor, as for all the trials under way by the office I would think remain as active, regardless if she is retained or removed, since it's the office that brings charges.


Imagine a new prosecutor would be appointed, the all case would go under review by that person/staff and decisions made to continue or drop those active cases.

At this point the judge removed several of the charges but others still stand, however it's possible he could find that her actions were the cause in bringing the case against Trump and that the case is dismissed depending on everything decided in this case against her and her office.
 
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If Fani is removed, the entire Fulton County DA's office will be removed.


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^^^^^ is correct.

There is an established procedure in such cases and if the entire DA's office is removed, the the decision to appoint another prosecutor goes to a non-partisan state committee.

The committee happens to be headed by a Republican and he can either appoint another DA, find a private DA (not likely because of the low rates) or he can decline to appoint someone and the case dies.

If Fani & Co. are removed the charges are still there, pending the committee head making a decision. In any event, even if he finds a new DA, the case won't begin until after the election.

Maybe we'll hear from the judge this week.
 
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https://twitter.com/PhilHollow.../1767951623219978398




It's back to square 1 for #FaniWillis

The indictment is legally flawed on 6 counts as to 6 defendants

In order to proceed with the current case, she would have to elect to proceed without these counts as part of the case...

BUT...

she can fix the defects the judge found.

She can take the whole case back to a grand jury and re-indict the whole thing with language that satisfies the court's concern

But that would mean starting all over from square one

This is a major setback for #FaniWillis ...

BUT...

this also makes me wonder:

If the judge were going to disqualify #FaniWillis maybe he would have ruled on that motion before this one...?

Or maybe he is ruling on the pending motions in the order they were filed....

Too soon to say so stay tuned!

I truly don’t think this is any kind of signal about how the judge will rule on the issue of disqualifying #FaniWillis …

But it does make me think he may not be inclined to dismiss the indictment on the basis of Willis alleged misconduct


https://twitter.com/PhilHollow.../1768016922636156952





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This is two different issues and we will get two different decisions.

The first one is what came down today. The DA, whoever that might end up being or even Fani herself, can either proceed without the six charges or the DA can go back to the grand jury with more info. The jury might decline to indict but since it's generally considered a favorable tool of the DA, they likely will. But it's delay on all the other charges against the defendants if they want to go that route.

It's a bad day for Fani. The lack of specificity is appalling, especially in a criminal case. It's like the DA charged the defendants with speeding by breaking the basic speed law but didn't say how much over, where and when but just speeding.

The second decision on disqualification could come later this week.
 
Posts: 4332 | Location: "You can't just go to Walmart with a gift card and get a new brother." Janice Serrano | Registered: May 03, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Those saying they don't understand why the judge would rule on the charges if he intends to disqualify Willis- I just don't get the rationale.

If the judge disqualifies Willis and Wade, that doesn't mean he is saying the case can't go forward. He would be saying the case can't go forward with these prosecutors. Therefore, it seems to me that no matter what is his decision on Willis and Wade, ruling first on the charges is the logical move.

As usual, with all of these battles in all of their forms, there are so many people in our society who just can't wait to lose. They rush towards defeat.

It kills me, absolutely kills me to see people behave this way. Who wants to have supposed compatriots who give up so quickly? I think it's shameful behavior. Who wants to listen to that shit?
 
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It actually makes sense to me that the judge would throw out these charges now before ruling on the disqualification of Fani so that whoever might have to take up the case after Willis (assuming that is allowed), he would know what he's getting himself into. Better to get this part out of the way now.

Just my way of thinking anyway.


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I think the judge believes the charges are nothing but political theater from the start and is working to extricate himself


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President Trump: 'This is a very dangerous time for our country' | Newsmax

Former President Donald Trump joined "Greg Kelly Reports" and talked about the investigations on Hunter Biden, explained the lessons he's learned during his presidency, and more on NEWSMAX.




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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Great interview! Thanks for posting.




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This comes after questioning Jack Smith's team on why no other President or Vice President in the United States has been charged under the Espionage Act for taking or keeping classified materials, a situation that involves 32 counts against Trump.



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Georgia Governor Signs Bill That Could Stop Fani Willis’ Witch Hunt In Its Tracks

With the stroke of a pen, Georgia’s Republican Governor Brian Kemp has revived a committee tasked with monitoring the operations of local prosecutors like Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, throwing up a potentially massive roadblock to the Democrat’s case against former President Donald Trump.

Kemp on Wednesday signed into law the activation of the Prosecuting Attorneys Qualifications Commission, initially established last year but stymied by the state Supreme Court after it refused to approve the creation of a commission to monitor its conduct, according to the AP. The current law removes the previous need for approval by the Supreme Court, arming Georgia Republicans with a potent tool against hyper-partisan prosecutorial efforts which they claim are being undertaken by Willis.

“This legislation will help us ensure rogue and incompetent prosecutors are held accountable if they refuse to uphold the law,” Kemp said at a signing ceremony with first lady Marty Kemp, Lt. Gov. Burt Jones, House Speaker Jon Burns, and Senate and House Republican leadership. “As we know all too well, crime has been on the rise across the country, and is especially prevalent in cities where prosecutors are giving criminals a free pass or failing to put them behind bars due to lack of professional conduct.”

The measure provoked outrage among some of the Democratic prosecutors who initially challenged the law before the Supreme Court set it aside.

“The signing of Senate Bill 332 shows that Republicans care little about the State Constitution and will stop at nothing to steal power from Georgia voters. The bill fails to address the constitutional concerns raised by the legal community over the last year about the Prosecuting Attorneys Qualifications Commission and even worse, removes the Supreme Court’s oversight of the body. Now this group of political appointees—chosen solely by Republicans—has unchecked power to remove prosecutors whose decisions they disagree with, no matter how well a district attorney or solicitor general represents the voters who elected them in the courtroom,” said DeKalb County District Attorney Sherry Boston in a statement to Fox 5 Atlanta.

Lt. Gov. Burt Jones praised Gov. Kemp’s move as providing oversight at a time when President Trump is already seeing some of the state-level charges against him being dismissed by Judge Scott McAfee.

“I am thankful to Governor Kemp for signing this vital piece of legislation into law. Now, the Prosecuting Attorneys Qualifications Commission can begin its important work and rein in rogue District Attorneys that refuse to uphold the rule of law in our state. If District Attorneys want to continue down this reckless road and put the interests of criminals ahead of law-abiding citizens, they will be held accountable.”

DA Willis is under intense scrutiny over a romantic relationship with Nathan Wade, a prosecutor she hired and paid around $700,000 to support her investigation into President Trump and 18 co-defendants. An attorney for one of the co-defendants uncovered the relationship, initiating a fallout for Willis that will likely culminate in a decision by Judge McAfee about whether or not she should be dismissed from the case. Now, the Prosecuting Attorneys Qualifications Commission may move even faster to do so.
 
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Oh, Fani, the pressure keeps on building, baby!

Happy now, shit head? You wanted attention. Well, you've damn well gotten it. It's a tough way to learn a lesson.
 
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Kemp signs Georgia law reviving prosecutor sanctions panel. Democrats fear it's aimed at Fani Willis



ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp signed a law Wednesday that lets a state commission begin operating with powers to discipline and remove prosecutors, potentially disrupting Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’ prosecution of former President Donald Trump.

“This legislation will help us ensure rogue and incompetent prosecutors are held accountable if they refuse to uphold the law,” Kemp said before signing the bill, flanked by Republican legislative leaders. “As we know all too well, crime has been on the rise across the country, and is especially prevalent in cities where prosecutors are giving criminals a free pass or failing to put them behind bars due to lack of professional conduct.”

Though Kemp signed legislation last year creating the Prosecuting Attorneys Qualifications Commission, it was unable to begin operating after the state Supreme Court in November refused to approve rules governing its conduct. The justices said they had “grave doubts” about their ability to regulate the duties of district attorneys beyond the practice of law. Tuesday’s measure removes the requirement for Supreme Court approval.

The measure is likely to face renewed legal challenges. Four district attorneys dropped their previous lawsuit challenging the commission after the Supreme Court set it aside.

The law would require district attorneys and solicitors general, who prosecute lower level cases in some counties, to evaluate each case on its own, instead of declining to prosecute classes of offenses. Opponents say that would mean prosecutors couldn’t use their discretion.

Republican House Speaker Jon Burns of Newington said the House's efforts have not been directly aimed at Willis, who already is facing an effort in court to have her removed from the Trump prosecution over a romantic relationship she had with the special prosecutor she employed in that case.

Republicans cited other instances of alleged prosecutor misconduct, including occasions in the past when Democrats supported the idea of a prosecutor oversight panel after the killing of a Black man, Ahmaud Arbery, near Brunswick.

“For us in the House our focus is not on any one person, not on any one situation," Burns told reporters after the law was signed. "It’s about asking the folks that are elected, just like me, to do their jobs and protect the citizens of this state.”

But Democrats say Republicans are trying to override the will of Democratic voters and are inviting abuse by creating a commission without some other body reviewing its rules.

The law was enacted even as the state Senate has created a special investigative committee that Republicans say will be used to probe whether Willis has used state money to benefit herself by employing attorney Nathan Wade as a special prosecutor in the Trump case. That committee has already heard testimony from Ashleigh Merchant, the defense attorney for co-defendant Michael Roman who first raised questions about Wade.

Willis and Wade both testified at a hearing last month that they had engaged in a romantic relationship, but they rejected the idea that Willis improperly benefited from it as lawyers for Trump and some of his co-defendants alleged. Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee has not yet decided on whether Willis and Wade can continue with the prosecution.

McAfee on Wednesday dismissed some of the charges against Trump and others, but the rest of the sweeping racketeering indictment remains intact. He quashed six counts in the indictment, including three against Trump, the presumptive 2024 Republican presidential nominee. But he left in place other counts — including 10 facing Trump — and said prosecutors could seek a new indictment to try to reinstate the ones he dismissed.

Georgia’s law is one of multiple attempts nationwide by Republicans to control prosecutors they don’t like. Republicans have inveighed against progressive prosecutors after some have brought fewer drug possession cases and sought shorter prison sentences, arguing Democrats are coddling criminals.
 
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This has become a very bad trend and I am going to address this very soon. I can't get some of you guys to stop doing this, and those who are doing it seem to have no idea that this isn't just me bitching about a pet peeve of mine. This is about something more than that, and it's not on me.
 
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