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The Trump Presidency : Year IV

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March 23, 2023, 03:25 PM
HRK
The Trump Presidency : Year IV
That is correct, if nothing comes of this it backfires big time on Bragg and the D Party, being that's the likely result.

Trump walks away with a very strong case to use in the primary's against the current corrupt government, soros, bad prosecutors.

All they want is something they can use to gin up support in the far left base that will buy whatever BS they put out on DJT.
March 23, 2023, 03:30 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg formally refused to cooperate with the House Republicans’ congressional investigation...


Considering this is a state issue, this is one moment where I'd might agree with this commie sack of shit telling the feds to go pound sand. Because if the roles were reversed, that's exactly the opinion I would have.

And anyway, everyone can see what a shitshow this is without congress.


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
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God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

March 23, 2023, 04:38 PM
sdy
https://nyjuror.gov/pdfs/hb_Grand.pdf

NY State Grand Jurors Handbook

A grand jury has 23 members

To hear evidence, as least 16 must be present

16 jurors must be present to deliberate

12 jurors who have heard all the critical evidence must agree

All jurors who have heard the essential and critical evidence and have been provided with the instructions may vote.

so my read is this : the percentage needed to come to a given decision varies. It could 12/16 = 75% , or to the extreme of 12/23 = 52%
March 23, 2023, 07:32 PM
kimber1911
New York’s DA Alvin Bragg's precreated speech from next week dropping all charges on Donald J. Trump has been released.

Well worth watching.
I found it pretty funny.

Edited to add: I may have been fooled by a deep fake meme.
It sure had me fooled.
It’s very good nonetheless.

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“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
March 23, 2023, 07:41 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
https://nyjuror.gov/pdfs/hb_Grand.pdf

NY State Grand Jurors Handbook

A grand jury has 23 members

To hear evidence, as least 16 must be present

16 jurors must be present to deliberate

12 jurors who have heard all the critical evidence must agree

All jurors who have heard the essential and critical evidence and have been provided with the instructions may vote.

so my read is this : the percentage needed to come to a given decision varies. It could 12/16 = 75% , or to the extreme of 12/23 = 52%


And he can't event get that.


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

March 23, 2023, 09:54 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
...precreated speech...
What in the world is this supposed to mean?
March 23, 2023, 10:08 PM
flashguy
^^^^^ Maybe Bragg wrote 2 speeches in advance, and which one he'd give would depend on the outcome of the Grand Jury?

flashguy




Texan by choice, not accident of birth
March 23, 2023, 10:09 PM
parabellum
Do you think that is what it means?
March 24, 2023, 01:30 AM
flashguy
I don't know. I posited it as a possibility. Candidates for public office do it, high public officials have done it (Nixon for the Apollo XI mission), etc.

flashguy




Texan by choice, not accident of birth
March 24, 2023, 07:30 AM
parabellum
kimber1911, what is this stuff you posted here? What is this supposed to be, and what does "precreated" mean?
March 24, 2023, 12:16 PM
Pipe Smoker
Alan Dershowitz is a lawyer, Harvard Law School Professor and author of 'Get Trump: The Threat to Civil Liberties, Due Process, and Our Constitutional Rule of Law'. [a full nut liberal]

“In all my 60 years of criminal defense litigating and teaching, I have never heard of a case based on such a ridiculous stretching of the law than the potential indictment of Donald Trump. …”

More in this DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/11896587



Serious about crackers.
March 24, 2023, 01:27 PM
parabellum
Yes and you can bet your bottom dollar that those most or all of those who are impaneled on this grand jury are aware of Dershowitz's assessment and I can't imagine that such a thing would have no influence on the vote of at least some of them.
March 24, 2023, 02:01 PM
recoatlift
I’m liking this humiliation the libs have successfully put themselves in.
Our country will be back stronger than before.

Lord, never asked for anything from you but to please let me live long enough to see the son of a bitching commie bastards strung up. Sorry for cussin’ Lord. I’m more like St. Peter. Like to get me several ears before I see ya!
March 24, 2023, 02:41 PM
flashguy
Alan Dershowitz is an old-style Liberal, and I don't usually agree with his political stance, but he is one of the best Constutional lawyers alive and I've never seen him flinch in defending the Constitution and the rule of law. Jonathan Turlry is another such person. I respect them both.'

flashguy

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Texan by choice, not accident of birth
March 24, 2023, 06:49 PM
kimber1911
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
kimber1911, what is this stuff you posted here? What is this supposed to be, and what does "precreated" mean?
As stupid as it may sound, I believed it was real at the time of posting.
I took procreated as meaning that he pre-recorded his speech with intent to release it next week.

I was gullible, and then clarified my post after learning it was fake, then left it as I thought others would enjoy it, as it was well done in my opinion.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
March 24, 2023, 08:16 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
I was gullible, and then clarified my post after learning it was fake, then left it as I thought others would enjoy it, as it was well done in my opinion.
Well done?

Once you realized it was fake, it should have come down immediately. You should remove those links now.

This is going to become a big problem before too long, and this forum will have nothing to do with these fabricated videos, which are the equivalent of lies.

The word "precreated" seems like a tailor-made excuse for this stuff and we are just not having it here.

The day will come before very long when these fake videos become so convincing that it will become necessary to have specialized software to discern their authenticity or lack thereof.

This is a very bad trend and it will harm society, mark my word. Nothing good will come of it.
March 24, 2023, 09:01 PM
recoatlift
Precreate, I’d most likely never use that word.

Sounds like kamala (unworthy of proper capitalization) would use.
March 25, 2023, 06:14 AM
wcb6092
Ray Epps Hires Lawyer w/ Ties to FBI-Linked Perkins Coie, Threatens Tucker Carlson

https://headlineusa.com/ray-ep...from-tucker-carlson/

'We have learned that since March 2012, the FBI approved and facilitated a Secure Work Environment at Perkins Coie’s Washington, D.C. office, which continues to be operational... '

Ray Epps’s new attorney, who is demanding on behalf of his client a public apology from Tucker Carlson under threat of a defamation lawsuit, is the director of a radical anti-Trump organization, a close associate of Media Matters Democrat attack dog David Brock and a former employee of Perkins Coie, the lawfare firm behind Russiagate and the Steele dossier.

Epps’s attorney, Michael Teter, sent a letter on Thursday to Carlson, demanding the Fox News host retract what Teter called “false and defamatory statements” that Epps was a J6 government plant.




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March 25, 2023, 07:24 AM
Ironbutt
^I guess Ray is running short of money since the alphabet agencies can no longer use him as an undercover plant to incite riots.


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March 25, 2023, 11:35 AM
c1steve
If Tucker is actually sued, can he use discovery to determine if Epps received money from the FBI?


-c1steve