He is the Teflon Don!
Hahaha, he’s going to get more votes than before…..of course no where near bidens count. The man got more than Obozo! Hahaha, go figure,
huh?

The best they’ve got is cohen, a proven liar. Hahaha.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

Really, beautifully played by Donald Trump.

Great assessment, and I agree. Since he announced the leak, he still has the strut of a man with no worries. If this is a game of poker, Trump is sitting on a damn good hand right now, cool as a cucumber.

Here is yet another consequence of Trump getting ahead of this crook-loving asshole DA.

House Judiciary Committee demands Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg testify about possible Trump indictment

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The House Judiciary Committee is demanding that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg testify before Congress in the wake of his "unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority," as he reportedly considers indicting former President Trump on charges related to alleged hush money payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniels in 2016.

Given all of this, I think the only way this guy will actually indict Trump is if he is getting outside pressure to do this and/or he feels that he has no choice but to move forward with it because he would end up looking like a bigger phony that he does already, if he backed out of it now.

He might be able to make a statement to the effect that the leak was false and there are no plans to indict Donald Trump, but too many people, both inside and outside of his office, know the truth.

Warner Bros. really need to do something with this shit show. I’d be better than Wile E. Coyote chasing the road runner.

Or maybe a whole pile of Keystone Cops chasing Bugs Bunny.

FWIW today I was online, and listening to a program (faith program, no politics per se) and it was mentioned that one organization is calling for prayer at 6:00 p.m. your respective time zone, for Mr. Trump and the nation.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ual-option-off-table

Law enforcement officials met behind closed doors Monday to discuss the logistics of arraigning former President Trump following his possible indictment over hush-money payments made on his behalf during the 2016 presidential campaign.

A law enforcement source told Fox News Monday that the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office and different branches of law enforcement discussed the logistics of closing down streets and putting lights up with generators, extra barriers and extra police.

The source said law enforcement does not expect the former president to be arraigned until next week as the Manhattan grand jury – which has been meeting secretly to hear evidence for weeks – has another witness on Wednesday. A virtual option was apparently ruled out as the DA is opposed to it. However, another source familiar with the discussions regarding the handling of a possible Trump indictment, said that a virtual arraignment for the former president was never seriously considered.

The source told Fox News that law enforcement is concerned about safety. If the former president does come up to Manhattan, there will be a major police presence and the area will get shut down.

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Given all of this, I think the only way this guy will actually indict Trump is if he is getting outside pressure to do this and/or he feels that he has no choice but to move forward with it because he would end up looking like a bigger phony that he does already, if he backed out of it now.

Alvin Bragg ran on "getting Trump"...
But he shouldn't do it. It's not a good case.

Robert Costello Describes His Grand jury Testimony Today, and it Might Just Change the Direction of Alvin Bragg

This is what news and information is supposed to be all about.

In this interview, former Michael Cohen lawyer, Robert Costello, deconstructs the entire premise of the key witness Alvin Bragg is using to target President Trump. Costello states in the interview that he just delivered two hours of grand jury testimony in Manhattan specifically against the interests of the prosecution Alvin Bragg is attempting to construct.

Michael Cohen previously waived attorney-client privilege with Robert Costello, during his effort to get out of legal trouble during his federal case. This waiver permits Robert Costello to discuss the entire background of his former representation with Michael Cohen. WATCH:



https://theconservativetreehou...n-bragg/#more-244530

Does anyone have any clue on what they could arrest him on in relation to Stormy?

My only guess could be exceeding campaign contributions limits? I thought that candidates could self contribute as much as they want? Not filling out a reimbursement form or something to repay his lawyer? I don't understand what the possible charge could be.

It's just like when a grocery store pays someone off who fell in the store. It's cheaper to pay them $30k to go away, so they do.

The gist:

Stormy is just a side item on this buffet.

1. Trump apparently had Cohen on retainer for various business related duties.
2. Stormy's lawyer approached Cohen and told him she was going to "tell her story".
3. I'm not clear if it was with or without Trumps knowledge, Cohen ends up "negotiating" a NDA (non disclosure agreement) with Stormy's lawyer, and they "agree" on a price of $130k.
4. Cohen takes out a HELOC (home equity line of credit) and pays Stormy's lawyer, who then pays Stormy. Not sure what the lawyers cut was. Cohen claims he used the HELOC because he didn't want his wife to know about the payment.
5. At some point, Trump either already knowing about the above or not, repays Cohen.
6. The story of the payment got out somewhere along the line regardless of the NDA. I'm sure if I dug around I could find when.


The rub:
1. The FEC (Federal Election Commission) and the Federal SDNY (Southern District of NY) both reviewed the above and didn't find anything they could fine(FEC) or prosecute (SDNY) for regarding this case.
2. Cohen made the Stormy payment with HIS money. Trump paid Cohen with HIS money, not campaign funds.
3. Alvin Bragg (New York County District Attorney) now says the payment was hush money, as opposed to an NDA, and is essentially an in kind campaign contribution so it should have been paid by the campaign.
4. If Trump had used campaign money, it would have likely been an FEC violation. Bragg says since he didn't it's a violation of NY state law.
5. Additionally, Bragg is trying to "elevate" what would have normally been a misdemeanor offense and beyond the statute of limitations, to a FELONY. The Felony is probably also past the statute of limitations.

I'm not 100% on all of the above, just what I glean from what I've heard.

Quite the hot mess...


Edit:
Just announced that Trump will be indicted tomorrow, and arraigned next week.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...tification&ci=555714

^^^ So you are also unsure of what crime they could arrest him on as well? If this is considered campaign contribution instead of personal matter, did he exceed the amount he's allowed to contribute to his own campaign?

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
^^^ So you are also unsure of what crime they could arrest him on as well? If this is considered campaign contribution instead of personal matter, did he exceed the amount he's allowed to contribute to his own campaign?

It's a mis-allocation of funds, Trump classified it as a legal expense(he was repaying his lawyer), Bragg says it's a campaign expense. It's not about the contribution limits. It's a paperwork/white collar charge.

Bragg says it's a "falsification" of business records and possibly a conspiracy charge:
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/175.10

Most of what you're asking is here:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...indictment-rcna75594

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Originally posted by stoic-one:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
^^^ So you are also unsure of what crime they could arrest him on as well? If this is considered campaign contribution instead of personal matter, did he exceed the amount he's allowed to contribute to his own campaign?

It's a mis-allocation of funds, Trump classified it as a legal expense(he was repaying his lawyer), Bragg says it's a campaign expense. It's not about the contribution limits. It's a paperwork/white collar charge.

Bragg says it's a "falsification" of business records and possibly a conspiracy charge:
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/175.10

Most of what you're asking is here:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...indictment-rcna75594

So he tried to defraud himself in order to evade campaign finance laws?

Or he didn't have an active agreement for Michael Cohen to act on his behalf/at his discretion? Or that Trump didn't write RE Stormy on the memo on the check?

I'm still missing the actual crime. Companies pay annoyances to go away when it's cheaper than fighting it out in court. Individuals do it as well. Companies do it on behalf of their employees/board members. Nothing here seems out of the ordinary here to me.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
I'm still missing the actual crime.

He's Donald Trump! LOL sad but true. He must be stopped.

You're not missing anything, Skins. The whole thing is simply preposterous, as we all know.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
You're not missing anything, Skins. The whole thing is simply preposterous, as we all know.

True story, hard to explain something that makes no sense.

Unless. TDS.

There are rumors in the press going both ways: Trump will be indicted and Trump won't be indicted.

I'll say this- I have the feeling that if this fool of a DA does indict Donald Trump, he's likely to have a very interesting rest of his life, and I wouldn't want to be him.

This reminds me of those old gangster movies.

It is clear everyone is either on the take, or able to be 'influenced' by the mob. There is that one cop that comes in who can't be bought, can't be influenced, and wants to do things right. The mob does everything they can to convert him and when they can't they have to make an example of him so no one else gets out of line.

I believe this is American politics making sure no one else gets out of line.

Yesterday Fox ran a story headlined, “Trump Has Not Been Notified Whether Manhattan DA Plans to Bring Charges: Sources.” The subheadline explained “Sources told Fox News that there remains a real chance that Bragg does not choose to indict the former president.”

The article says that, according to anonymous “sources,” at least one more witness is scheduled to appear before the New York Grand Jury today, which is the earliest an indictment could issue. That’s all Fox had, and its speculation about whether chubby DA Alvin Bragg would indict Trump or not is just that, speculation.

Can the democrats resist the temptation to charge the Bad Orange Man? That’s a lot like asking whether democrats could go a whole day without saying the word “racist.” It’s scientifically possible, I suppose, but I’m not sure they could even do it on a bet.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...ack&utm_medium=email

From a long term strategic standpoint this seems really dangerous for Democrats, but it also underlines their ridiculous level of overconfidence.

I think most people know, might not want to admit but know, that politics is a dirty business. Laws are bent, twisted, and broken frequently. As long as nothing is to crazy people tend be content to look the other way. Usually if charges are brought it’s a staff member who takes the fall. Granted politicians have been arrested for individual actions like DUI, assault, even murder, although we know some who get away with even that. Aggressively going after charges and for a major candidate is even more dirty. Attempting to get the opponent arrested, charged, convicted and jailed is really setting a dangerous precedent.

I think everyone recalls Trump telling Hillary in a debate that if he became President, he would have her arrested. There was significant evidence that she had violated multiple Federal laws while Secretary of State. Trump did not arrest her, likely as he knew politics would erupt into each party charging members of the other if he did and that isn’t good for anyone. The Democrats on the other hand, a part long known for corruption and illegal activity have abandoned that notion and are going full steam after their competition.

If successful the only response left is for Republicans to go full bore retaliation and look to align charges against every Democrat they can. It’s not like everyone in Washington doesn’t know what everyone else has done or is doing. The question is, who will be left standing and what will be the result of the chaos?

The thing that makes me wonder is, given the mountain of evidence starting to stack up against the Democratic Party regarding the Russia collusion, January 6, classified documents, Ukraine scandals, and of course Hillary’s long list of blatant illegal activities, how can the Democrats think that there won’t be retribution? Are they really that overconfident?

The democRATs had absolutely no qualms about lying and filing not o e but 2 false impeachment proceedings. They will do or say anything to besmirch Trump’s name and character, and truth be damned. Same goes for the lying msm. You have only to look at all the clear evidence of Biden crime syndicate wrongdoings being outright ignored to see just how dishonest and desperate the left is.