It's pretty clear that if the media is for you, you are another store-bought R
Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed.
November 14, 2022, 08:22 AM
pursuit0226
Voted for Trump twice in general elections because he was the best option. Since those votes, he has completely lost me. His actions (or inactions) in GA during the 2020 run offs lost the Senate, as 400K fewer Republicans came out to vote. His lack of action during the Capital riot again showed his pettiness. The final straw was his rally in GA where he said Stacey Abrams would be a better governor than Brian Kemp. We need a leader who can rally the entire party. At this point he may have a plurality of die hard followers but no where near a majority. He will gladly burn down the party and the country if it suits his ego. Time to look forward, not back.
November 14, 2022, 08:47 AM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by pursuit0226: At this point he may have a plurality of die hard followers but no where near a majority.
So where did you get this really important piece of "information". Fox? CNN? CBS? The NYT? ABC polls?
Did YOU go out and ask millions of people? Or your arm hairs standing up give you that conclusion? A gut feeling?
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
November 14, 2022, 10:43 AM
Pale Horse
I really don’t give a shit what he says about DeSantis. My concern isn’t what he says, but when he said it. There was zero reason to attack DeSantis twice the week before the midterms.
I’m not brainwashed by the media. Trump really did it. I still like Trump and I want him to run in 2024. But it’s okay to admit that he isn’t always perfect.
“Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014
November 14, 2022, 11:43 AM
pursuit0226
quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
quote:
Originally posted by pursuit0226: At this point he may have a plurality of die hard followers but no where near a majority.
So where did you get this really important piece of "information". Fox? CNN? CBS? The NYT? ABC polls?
Did YOU go out and ask millions of people? Or your arm hairs standing up give you that conclusion? A gut feeling?
But I guess Forbes has their finger on the pulse of the majority of Republicans and their factual dislike of Trump.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
November 14, 2022, 02:08 PM
pursuit0226
quote:
Originally posted by oddball: ^^^^^^^^
Your Forbes link tells me nothing.
But I guess Forbes has their finger on the pulse of the majority of Republicans and their factual dislike of Trump.
Sorry, I thought someone said poles, and not polls.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
Sorry, I thought someone said poles, and not polls.
Read the data from the Republican sample.
November 14, 2022, 06:32 PM
oddball
^^^^^^^^
You don't seem to grasp that were not talkin' about pure hard data, we're talking about polls.
Polls.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
November 15, 2022, 12:12 AM
Cliff
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"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."
--Sir Winston Churchill
"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."
--James Earl Jones
November 15, 2022, 06:06 AM
pursuit0226
quote:
Originally posted by oddball: ^^^^^^^^
You don't seem to grasp that were not talkin' about pure hard data, we're talking about polls.
Polls.
So statistical surveys are not data but your opinion is? OK. The good news is that you can vote however you want just like the rest of us.
November 15, 2022, 10:22 AM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by Pyker: Trump needs to STFU about DeSantis.He's doing neither us nor himself any favors.
If he's running and looking ahead to a primary is one thing, but this constant sniping is just stupid if he's not.
Trump is running and looking ahead to a primary... but we will see tonight when he makes his announcement.
Interesting article from Ted Noel who has been on both sides of the Trump / DeSantis question.
Viewing DeSantis Versus Trump Through The 2022 Election Filter By Ted Noel
Readers of this page will recall that I firmly promoted the idea (here and here) that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis should be the Republican 2024 Presidential nominee, not Former President Donald Trump. After the Mar-a-Lago raid, I changed my view and said that the raid had made him the essential nominee. If nothing more, his election would be an “in your face” repudiation of the lawless Democrat machine.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
November 15, 2022, 10:52 AM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by pursuit0226: So statistical surveys are not data but your opinion is?
My opinion is obviously not data .
But neither are "statistical surveys" featured in Axios, Politico, or Forbes, and in politics, they are still polls, no matter how impressive sounding the name is. Kind of like "settled science"
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
November 15, 2022, 07:22 PM
oddball
Former V.P. Mike Pence had something to say tonight before Trump's announcement
quote:
Former Vice President Mike Pence said Tuesday that Republicans "have better choices" for president in 2024 than former President Donald Trump.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
November 15, 2022, 08:01 PM
Balzé Halzé
Donald Trump files FEC paperwork to run for President of the United States in 2024
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Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
November 15, 2022, 08:08 PM
Keystoner
I am pumped! Trump looks as energetic as ever.
The danger of baobabs is so little recognized.
November 15, 2022, 08:12 PM
oddball
Streaming right now. He's runnin'
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
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