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Originally posted by Erick85:
I believe one reason Trump was so successful was that he reached out directly to his supporters via Twitter and other non-traditional sources. He bypassed any slant or spin that normal media outlets would normally inject. That is but one new way of thinking. Problem was, too many saw that as non-traditional or even non-Presidential.

Yes... and now Twitter has banned him for that exact reason.
The stated reason, that he was inciting a riot, was BS and everyone knows it.
Now, it's going to be much harder for any right thinking conservative candidate to connect directly with supporters.

Thanks for correcting me.

I still can’t find a simple list of Republican’s who favored certification of Fraudulent Electoral College Votes.

Should be a simple list to find.
Who were the Turncoat’s?
Who should we hold accountable in Primaries.

Seems like a simple question, many would have.
Who to never vote for again.

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Originally posted by Erick85:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

So conservatives need to abandon conservatism in order to save conservatism. Check. Got it.

I took goose5’s statement more as not abandoning conservatism, but changing/updating how the messaging gets out. How to appeal to the younger generation. My thoughts, unfortunately, are that a lot of the younger generation needs to learn some major life lessons/mature more before their thinking will change.

Exactly. Nothing needs to be kicked out of the platform. Just learn what to put on the front burner, and what needs to be placed on the back burner. Learn different forms of outreach and messaging. I have to tell you the Republican party here in Colorado is absolutely terrible. There is lots of room for improvement.

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Originally posted by az4783054:
bowser said dc needs to be made a state. she's obviously got ambition in her future.

She already is coming off a successful run on Sha Na Na

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Originally posted by AzMikeCFD102:
https://itnshow.com/2021/01/05...leonardo-implicated/

Election Manipulation Carried Out By 25-Year State Dept. Employee From 2nd Floor Of U.S. Embassy Rome – Italian Defense Company Leonardo Implicated

Read: Affidavit Delivered To Congress Yesterday Declaring Confession Of Election Interference By Italian Defense Contractor Employee


https://itnshow.com/2021/01/07...contractor-employee/

AzMikeCFD102, I've also been following this. I'm about ten minutes in to the audio on the link in your
post. It sounds like President Trump knows about it now. This could be one of the main reasons for the
social media shutdown. Whether it goes anywhere or not, it's some very interesting information. I'm concerned about some of the people she named that are supposedly trying to help. Maybe we'll see.

No worries. I'm sure the Republican party will go to war for us...just be good citizens and be sure to vote for your favorite 'approved' candidate in the future.

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Thanks for correcting me.

I still can’t find a simple list of Republican’s who favored certification of Fraudulent Electoral College Votes.

Should be a simple list to find.
Who were the Turncoat’s?
Who should we hold accountable in Primaries.

Seems like a simple question, many would have.
Who to never vote for again.

ALL OF THEM

None of them made enough of a stink about the steal. They were all complacent in the face of outright fraud. They all should have been screaming at the top of there lungs "We will not let this Republic be stolen from us!"

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Originally posted by Erick85:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

So conservatives need to abandon conservatism in order to save conservatism. Check. Got it.

I took goose5’s statement more as not abandoning conservatism, but changing/updating how the messaging gets out. How to appeal to the younger generation. My thoughts, unfortunately, are that a lot of the younger generation needs to learn some major life lessons/mature more before their thinking will change.

They also need to be taught basic Civics and American and World History (beyond just Current Events). Today's young people are woefully ignorant of how this country was built and how it's supposed to work.

Regarding statehood for DC, it should not happen. DC was created as the seat of the federal government and cannot have a separate set of legislators. I believe it would be unconstitutional to make it a state. I've argued for a long time that no one should actually live in DC, and if there were no residents there would be no impetus to make it a state. Any residents of DC should simply be allowed to vote in Maryland, which is where all the land now DC was taken from.

Regarding statehood for Puerto Rico. I don't think that is a good idea, either. The last thing we need in this country is a state that does not have English as its principal language. (I didn't say "official", although I support making English the official US language.)

Of course, the main reason that Democrats want to make DC and PR states is that they expect it would add 4 permanent Democrat Senators, which with the current close margins would mean no Republican would ever be in charge. This must not happen.

flashguy

I may get flamed for this. But I really don't understand why republicans, even RINOs, would prefer to have Biden in office over Trump. It can't be just "I don't like him personally" or "He's not really a establishment politician" because he should at least the lessor of evils. Is there something about Trump's policies to date? Things that disfavor the RINOs politically or financially (either publicly or personally)?

I'm having some difficulty following and figuring it out. I'd really like to understand this better. And also figure out where my House rep stands.

Well, you kinda answer part of your own question. Professional politicians. They‘re Rinos...dems cloaked as repubs. Spies.

As for the local folks, we all have to listen, watch their words and deeds. Get in their face and hold them accountable, spread the word.

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Regarding statehood for DC, it should not happen. DC was created as the seat of the federal government and cannot have a separate set of legislators. I believe it would be unconstitutional to make it a state. I've argued for a long time that no one should actually live in DC, and if there were no residents there would be no impetus to make it a state. Any residents of DC should simply be allowed to vote in Maryland, which is where all the land now DC was taken from.

I agree with you but I think it was taken part from Maryland and part from Virginia.

The new federal territory was named District of Columbia to honour explorer Christopher Columbus, and the new federal city was named for George Washington. In 1790 French-born American engineer and designer Pierre Charles L’Enfant was chosen to plan the new capital city; meanwhile, surveyor Andrew Ellicott surveyed the 100-square-mile (260-square-km) territory with the assistance of Benjamin Banneker, a self-educated free Black man. The territory surveyed by Ellicott was ceded by Maryland, a slave state, and Virginia, the Southern state with the largest slave population, thus contributing to a significant Black presence in Washington.

https://www.britannica.com/pla...ashington-DC/History

He was/is disliked because he was a "common" man, not one of the chosen few higher class politicians. He didn't play their Reindeer Games. He was in it for the good of the American people, not for greed and power like the rest of the ruling class.

^^^and the President pissed off the globalists to the max. They hated the man.

Trump showed the "elites" to be incompetent. A close look at his middle east policies is proof positive how useless the bureaucracy, and "leadership" has become.
Decades of stagnation caused by doing things the Washington way. In less than a year Trump had multiple peace deals between Israel and various arab countries. Look at the previous administration's now laughable comments on how peace would be achieved.

I think the Congress critters hated Trump because he meddled in the way Congress members screw taxpayers.

The RINO’s don’t want him in office because he’s not a politician. He has exposed them all for what they are. He is a threat to their golden ticket and they hate him for it. I have felt this way since the beginning. Just look at how BOTH sides attacked him when he announced his candidacy. He isn’t a politician, he doesn’t play their games and he gets things done. Nothing like your typical DC politician.

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Originally posted by Erick85:
The RINO’s don’t want him in office because he’s not a politician. He has exposed them all for what they are. He is a threat to their golden ticket and they hate him for it. I have felt this way since the beginning. Just look at how BOTH sides attacked him when he announced his candidacy. He isn’t a politician, he doesn’t play their games and he gets things done. Nothing like your typical DC politician.

Yep. I've been saying pretty much all the exact same things, word-for-word. I've been saying it for years now. The system reacted to remove a threat.

Let's just hope there are some Dinos in the senate.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Regarding statehood for DC, it should not happen. DC was created as the seat of the federal government and cannot have a separate set of legislators. I believe it would be unconstitutional to make it a state. I've argued for a long time that no one should actually live in DC, and if there were no residents there would be no impetus to make it a state. Any residents of DC should simply be allowed to vote in Maryland, which is where all the land now DC was taken from.

I agree with you but I think it was taken part from Maryland and part from Virginia.

The part that had been Virginia was given back to the state in 1847. DC now contains only the part that was taken from Maryland.

Trump was hated by pols on both sides because he was independently wealthy and could not be bought.

flashguy

McConnell Lays Out How Second Impeachment Would Play Out In Senate

https://www.zerohedge.com/

With Democrats set to launch a second impeachment against President Trump if he doesn't resign 'immediately,' Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has circulated a memo to GOP Senators outlining the mechanics of how a potential Senate trial would play out.

For starters, it would almost certainly occur after Trump leaves office on January 20, when Democrats take control of the Senate, according to the Washington Post. McConnell's memo notes that the Senate will not reconvene until January 19 for any substantive business - leaving the day before Joe Biden's inauguration as the earliest possible date for proceedings to begin.

Although the Senate will hold two pro forma sessions next week, on Jan. 12 and Jan. 15, it is barred from conducting any kind of business during those days — including “beginning to act on received articles of impeachment from the House” — without agreement from all 100 senators. With a cadre of Trump-allied senators in the Republican conference, that unanimous consent is highly unlikely. -Washington Post

"Again, it would require the consent of all 100 Senators to conduct any business of any kind during the scheduled pro forma sessions prior to January 19, and therefore the consent of all 100 Senators to begin acting on any articles of impeachment during those sessions," reads McConnell's memo.

This means an impeachment trial would need to be taken up by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) who will become the majority leader after Republicans failed to hold the Senate following last week's Georgia runoff election (during which 'pro-Trump' attorney Lin Wood encouraged Republicans not to vote because the GOP candidates didn't support Trump's claims of widespread election fraud in the state).

McConnell's memo continues - outlining a scenario if the House should impeach Trump in the coming days (via WaPo):

●On Jan. 19, the Senate would receive a message from the House that it has appointed impeachment managers, and that the Senate would be ready to receive it.

●On Jan. 19 or 20, the House impeachment managers would exhibit the articles.

●On Jan. 20 or 21, the Senate would proceed to consideration of the impeachment articles at 1 p.m., and officially begin the trial. McConnell’s memo noted that the “Senate trial would therefore begin after President Trump’s term has expired — either one hour after its expiration on January 20, or twenty-five hours after its expiration on January 21.”

If Trump is successfully impeached, Congress could disqualify him from running for president again.

Meanwhile, there's a question of who would preside over the trial of a former president. In the case of a sitting president, that would fall to Chief Justice John G. Roberts, however McConnell's memo says it's "unclear" who would do so in the case of a former president.