Originally posted by nhtagmember: well this is interesting...
The Senate Finance Committee just released a report saying that Obama knowingly financed Al Qaeda, through an organization known as the Islamic Relief Agency (ISRA), through World Vision (read: CIA), backed by a massive grant from USAID, and later with approval from the Obama State Department.
Why be surprised at this. Everything that slime ball did was aimed at supporting radical Islamic extremists and other types.
Remember Operation Fast and Furious that armed the Cartels with automatic weapons that ended up killing Border Patrol Agents? I remember.
December 30, 2020, 10:03 AM
recoatlift
We had already lost our government by then. Zero effort or responsibility to arrest & prosecute the trash.
December 30, 2020, 10:05 AM
chellim1
And for the third day in a row, all eyes turn to Vice President Pence. Edward Davis over at American Thinker argues that the GOPers in Congress should not contest the electors and leave the heavy lifting to the veep:
...opinion has long been divided on what the vice president is empowered to do in his vote-counting role. Ivan Raiklin is hardly alone in his argument. It should not surprise us. Constitutional law frequently is not black and white, as seen in the numerous 5-4 Supreme Court decisions by Justices applying the same law to the same facts.
In other words, Pence should go for it. He need only interpret "votes" as votes from states not in dispute, and count them accordingly. He could declare, "I will not count the Biden electors, or the competing slates of Trump electors, in disputed states where there is overwhelming credible evidence of systemic fraud." Thus would he restore the election win to President Trump, from whom it was audaciously stolen.
What would Pence have to lose? A commenter at Legal Insurrection observed:
Pence should refuse to count votes from the contested states, and dare someone to sue him in court. Then the SCOTUS can simply docket that for January 21, 2021. If the SCOTUS can't stop states from stealing elections, they damn well don't have the power to stop Pence from counting the votes any way he wants to.
One caveat: This has been a season in which everyone seems to be letting us down. Why expect Pence to be any different? The Washington Post reported, "Pence is hoping for a low-key Jan. 6 and is not planning any unnecessary drama, aides said, intending to stick to his perfunctory role. He is eyeing a trip overseas soon after."
But the Post report might be inaccurate, or this could be Trump disinformation intended to cause the opposition to let down their guard.
As for the mention of no "unnecessary drama" in Pence's plans, that doesn't rule out necessary drama. The Democratic election theft was bold and shocking. It calls for a bold, shocking correction.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
December 30, 2020, 10:05 AM
Elk Hunter
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Originally posted by Hildur:
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Originally posted by tleo205:
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Originally posted by nhtagmember: well this is interesting...
The Senate Finance Committee just released a report saying that Obama knowingly financed Al Qaeda, through an organization known as the Islamic Relief Agency (ISRA), through World Vision (read: CIA), backed by a massive grant from USAID, and later with approval from the Obama State Department.
Why be surprised at this. Everything that slime ball did was aimed at supporting radical Islamic extremists and other types.
Remember Operation Fast and Furious that armed the Cartels with automatic weapons that ended up killing Border Patrol Agents? I remember.
So do I!
Elk
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FBHO!!!
The Idaho Elk Hunter
December 30, 2020, 10:29 AM
Hound Dog
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Originally posted by chellim1:
As for the mention of no "unnecessary drama" in Pence's plans, that doesn't rule out necessary drama. The Democratic election theft was bold and shocking. It calls for a bold, shocking correction.
I like that, and I agree. Vice President Pence should NOT partake in any "unnecessary drama." He SHOULD, however, take part in NECESARY drama.
Like the dirtbag dems insisting there was no 'widespread' fraud. While technically correct (there was blatant fraud in only 5 states out of 50 (that we know of), and only 5 districts out of thousands, so one could argue this wasn't 'widespread'), it is dishonest. A better argument would be that "there was no fraud that changed electoral vote wins for either candidate;" but of course, that would be just a blatant lie (not that that's ever stopped the dems before).
So, yeah, let's go ahead with the "no unnecessary drama" line for awhile and let the crap hit the fan next week.
Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher
December 30, 2020, 10:58 AM
recoatlift
Ya know, I need to thank Obozo for exposing how corrupt this country has become and how far she has drifted from my childhood days(73 now).
After this money handout, and taking care of the world with more pork before our own infrastructure, all we are is a global bank for others. Did any country on earth send us money for any studies or hardships??
Not a fucking one. I hate politicians.
December 30, 2020, 11:38 AM
Ackks
GA found no evidence of fraud during the signature audit done by the SOS office. Now there is a freaking surprise.
December 30, 2020, 11:49 AM
recoatlift
Are the counters the same as before? Expecting different results? It’s insanity!
Ps...I’d not be surprised if Sleepy got more votes! Just to jab President Trump in the eye!
December 30, 2020, 11:55 AM
12131
Same crooked players without independent observers allowed. Just a fucking charade.
Q
December 30, 2020, 12:00 PM
divil
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Originally posted by Ackks: GA found no evidence of fraud during the signature audit done by the SOroS office. Now there is a freaking surprise.
FIFY
December 30, 2020, 12:17 PM
David Lee
I want me some shock and awe by VP Pence. I hope he wears a F'n kevlar and digi camos when he tells the contested States, "yer pretty well fooked". I hope to see the faces of the demorats and rinos. Cant get here too soon. Gotta change his name to J DAM Pence..
December 30, 2020, 12:22 PM
Woodman
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Originally posted by Ripley: I'll just leave this here.
According to this article, Pence will have no power at all if anyone objects to election certification and the 2-hour debate and vote proceeds. If we want Pence to do this, we need Sen. Josh Hawley, and everyone else, to stand down.
December 30, 2020, 01:43 PM
Ackks
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Originally posted by Chris17404:
According to this article, Pence will have no power at all if anyone objects to election certification and the 2-hour debate and vote proceeds. If we want Pence to do this, we need Sen. Josh Hawley, and everyone else, to stand down.
Gives the GOP cover to say "we tried" and the swamp still gets what it wants.
December 30, 2020, 01:44 PM
Brianp90
White hat hackers have access to one of the polling stations as the hearing is going on in Georgia. If you don't do anything else today at least check out these two vids.
Nothing would make me happier than to watch the President do the Donald victory dance, where he pumps the air with his fists and starts to rock out! He is the MAN! Viva Donaldo!
December 30, 2020, 01:56 PM
ptruck
Does it have to be a republican that objects to certify the results? What if a democrat objects? Will that cause the same problems for V.P. Pence?
A few sources stated that Pence could have done something at a deadline a few days ago. He didn't. Now it's being reported that he didn't want to participate. Honestly, I wouldn't trust him and am glad other people will stand up. Didn't President Trump even say he wasn't fighting hard enough?
At this point, I think most of us are hopeful, but know they won't let this go our way. Let people go on record for who's side they are on.
