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Time for the Non-Politicians to run the country.

I'm all for that. How do you get people with no interest in politics into political positions?



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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^^^^^^
Maybe we check with Mark Robinson. he just entered the political field and has not had time to become corrupt.

We might need to look for those just entering politics like Mark Robinson.

President Trump became President as a non-politician, so I am hopeful we can find others.
George Washington did not necessarily want to be President.

Politicians are corrupt because they think they cannot be replaced.
We need show them that, that is a false assumption.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
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So does anyone know what happens if Pence refuses to certify as Steve Turley talked about today? He mentioned both house voting after objections and then said Pence may still refuse to certify.
 
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about the DNI report:

"The intelligence report only covers foreign influence operations related to the election, not voter or election fraud or election security."

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...ce-in-2020-election/

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe is considering not signing an intelligence report to Congress if it does not accurately reflect an ongoing debate among intelligence community career analysts over Chinese attempts to influence American voters in the 2020 election, according to a source familiar with the issue.

The intelligence report on foreign efforts to influence the 2020 election is due to Congress on Friday, but Ratcliffe is concerned it will not accurately reflect the debate among senior intelligence community analysts as to the extent of China’s influence operations during the election, according to the source.

There is allegedly “ample” raw intelligence about China’s intentions and actions related to the election, with more intelligence reporting coming in everyday. Some of the influence operations include social media campaigns seeking to amplify messages such as that President Donald Trump is a white supremacist.

However, senior career analysts disagree on the significance of those influence operations. Some analysts argue that they were minimal or ultimately not acted on, while others say it is extensive and far more than previously known. The disagreement includes whether there should be a China section in the report, according to the source.

Despite this serious debate, Ratcliffe is concerned that proper tradecraft — which would require that the disagreement be reflected in the report with both views represented — will not be followed simply in order to deprive President Trump of a potential political talking point.

In other words, Ratcliffe is concerned that the intelligence report would be written in a way due to politics — the very definition of politicization of intelligence, and only bury real and growing concerns about China from the intelligence community.

A senior national security official told Breitbart News on background:

Good to see Ratcliffe stepping up and addressing the China issue inside the IC. This appears to be a textbook case of intelligence being politicized by a handful of careerists in the bowels of the CIA. They don’t want to give Trump the talking points that China was engaged in election influence operations, but we all know they were.

Ratcliffe has applauded the growing focus among the intelligence community on China, which he said for the last few decades has prioritized counterterrorism. He wrote in an op-ed on December 3 in the Wall Street Journal:

Within intelligence agencies, a healthy debate and shift in thinking is already under way. For the talented intelligence analysts and operators who came up during the Cold War, the Soviet Union and Russia have always been the focus. For others who rose through the ranks at the turn of this century, counterterrorism has been top of mind. But today we must look with clear eyes at the facts in front of us, which make plain that China should be America’s primary national security focus going forward.

The intelligence report would go to Congress in a classified form, but would be released in an unclassified form to the public weeks afterwards, which will certainly fuel public discussion on Chinese election interference, as President-Elect Joe Biden seeks to move past what for many was a contested outcome.

The current IC debate is similar to a debate that was not reflected in the Obama administration 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment, which alleged Russia interfered in the 2016 election to specifically hurt Hillary Clinton and help Trump.

There was fierce debate among intelligence agencies over whether Russia’s goal was to help Trump or just to sow discord, but that debate was not reflected in the ICA, which was then used as a talking point by the left that the Trump campaign and Russia had colluded. After several years and millions of dollars, Special Counsel Robert Mueller found there was no criminal collusion, conspiracy, or coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The intelligence report only covers foreign influence operations related to the election, not voter or election fraud or election security.

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from CTH:

https://theconservativetreehou...-report-now-delayed/

On the same day Christopher Krebs, who was the country’s top cybersecurity official during the presidential election (before being fired), testified before the Senate’s Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee about no election interference,… according to CBS News Catherine Herridge the Director of National Intelligence, John Ratcliffe, is now saying there WAS foreign interference in the 2020 election

 
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"The intelligence report only covers foreign influence operations related to the election, not voter or election fraud or election security."

Who wrote this dumb shit? Foreign influence related to the election is not about election security? Roll Eyes


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Either way it does not sound like there is going to be anything in this report that would give Trump what he needs to justify invoking the insurrection act or a national emergency under his executive action. The path is becoming very narrow.


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Time for the Non-Politicians to run the country.

I'm all for that. How do you get people with no interest in politics into political positions?


Its relatively simple. Get rid of the big salary, allow no outside compensation and pay them 50k a year + company car, cafeteria food, health insurance.

Its less about getting people involved versus keeping people out and taking away all the incentives.



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Time for the Non-Politicians to run the country.

I'm all for that. How do you get people with no interest in politics into political positions?


I've strongly considered trying but I know that I wouldn't play ball or their games. I have no interest in getting rich of off others. I've researched the local RNC and what's required but never made it past that point.


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Its relatively simple. Get rid of the big salary, allow no outside compensation and pay them 50k a year + company car, cafeteria food, health insurance.

Its less about getting people involved versus keeping people out and taking away all the incentives.


Hmmmm, no. No that won't do. Not at all. You really want to see corruption with our representatives? Pay them a shitty wage. Seriously, the salary they receive now actually isn't all that large relatively. Their wage is not what draws many of these swamp rats to Washington in any case. It's everything else that comes with being embedded in that elite class.

My suggestion? Have congress meet once a year. Or better yet, once every two years. Perhaps that's not realistic though. But neither is paying representatives $50k a year and expecting that'll bring in good, honest people.


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For starters we go back to representatives that live in their own districts all of the time and each day they conduct business out of a local office and their constituents can stop by for visits most any time. When they screw us over they need to feel the heat and pressure of a face to face conversation from the ones they represent.


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My suggestion? Have congress meet once a year. b

Makes sense to me. A citizen legislature. People not too tied to Washington. A smaller less intrusive government. We can dream, right?

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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So does anyone know what happens if Pence refuses to certify as Steve Turley talked about today? He mentioned both house voting after objections and then said Pence may still refuse to certify.


I don’t believe he actually has a choice. His role is to read the electoral votes, and break ties in the Senate. I don’t believe it’s written anywhere that he has to give final approval, or can override Congress accepting the electoral votes. Another false hope.
 
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So does anyone know what happens if Pence refuses to certify as Steve Turley talked about today? He mentioned both house voting after objections and then said Pence may still refuse to certify.


I don’t believe he actually has a choice. His role is to read the electoral votes, and break ties in the Senate. I don’t believe it’s written anywhere that he has to give final approval, or can override Congress accepting the electoral votes. Another false hope.


If the VP had this power, with all the evidence of fraud stacking up, it would likely be a bigger topic of discussion. He'd be hard pressed to certify if he didn't have to under the circumstances.

Unlike FOX, which seems to be shifting back to the 'Ol' Sleepy's gonna be Prez for sure,' Turley does seem to be very optimistic, to the point of being sensationalistic...




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Turley does seem to be very optimistic, to the point of being sensationalistic...

This annoying guy has always been a sensationalist. Can't stand more than 2 minutes of him. If there's anyone worse than Hannity, Turley is a strong contender.

"Things are about to EXPLODE!!!" How many times have we heard this kind of shit since Nov 3rd? This guy, and many others like him on YT, don't have any more info than we do. They simply opine and sensationalize to get hits and make money. Aren't you guys sick and tired of their antics, yet?


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Most of those guys are very annoying Q. I wont even click on that one.
 
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Turley does seem to be very optimistic, to the point of being sensationalistic...

This annoying guy has always been a sensationalist. Can't stand more than 2 minutes of him. If there's anyone worse than Hannity, Turley is a strong contender.

"Things are about to EXPLODE!!!" How many times have we heard this kind of shit since Nov 3rd? This guy, and many others like him on YT, don't have any more info than we do. They simply opine and sensationalize to get hits and make money. Aren't you guys sick and tired of their antics, yet?

Hell to the yes! I've narrowed my reading intake down to about three or fewer sources and quit reading all the rest. I scroll past the walls of text most people post because they are usually opinion pieces from a blogger I've already chosen not to read. Don't read or watch any video's about the latest breaking bombshell of more fraud evidence. Stopped with all the experts who have a easy way to certify all the votes and who can straighten this whole mess out in a matter of days. L Lin Wood's Tweets have become over the top. He's going to put everyone in jail soon, real soon. He's beginning to sound more like a TV Evangelist.

I know what paths Trump has left to win this thing and after the DNI statement it does not look good imo. At this point I'm watching what Trump says and does because that's all that really matters. The rest has been noise for a long time now.


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Originally posted by Deqlyn:

Its relatively simple. Get rid of the big salary, allow no outside compensation and pay them 50k a year + company car, cafeteria food, health insurance.

Its less about getting people involved versus keeping people out and taking away all the incentives.


Hmmmm, no. No that won't do. Not at all. You really want to see corruption with our representatives? Pay them a shitty wage. Seriously, the salary they receive now actually isn't all that large relatively. Their wage is not what draws many of these swamp rats to Washington in any case. It's everything else that comes with being embedded in that elite class.

My suggestion? Have congress meet once a year. Or better yet, once every two years. Perhaps that's not realistic though. But neither is paying representatives $50k a year and expecting that'll bring in good, honest people.


I like that idea.

But there has to be a way to keep them out phony board seats before and after holding office etc...

I would say our odds are better education voters. Low information voters are a big issue. Which is why the dems want the voting age reduced to 16.



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Turley does seem to be very optimistic, to the point of being sensationalistic...

This annoying guy has always been a sensationalist. Can't stand more than 2 minutes of him. If there's anyone worse than Hannity, Turley is a strong contender.

"Things are about to EXPLODE!!!" How many times have we heard this kind of shit since Nov 3rd? This guy, and many others like him on YT, don't have any more info than we do. They simply opine and sensationalize to get hits and make money. Aren't you guys sick and tired of their antics, yet?


Well.... yeah... BUT... "Things are about to EXPLODE!!!"



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Well.... yeah... BUT... "Things are about to EXPLODE!!!"


Just for once I would like to see this become true. My Christmas wish would be that the Dems and RINOs get exposed for the POS humans they are and it finally takes root. I can't fathom the Bi-Har administration and the crap its going to pull.

Dunno, maybe the video on the previous page is right and this dynamic duo will screw up so bad , they'll sink their own ship. It's just that we are the unintended victims in the process.

I'm still holding out hope but its getting tough.

Another thought. 2021 is around the corner. Perhaps Bi-Har remains PEOTUS for the rest of this shitty year. Come January, the shit finally explodes and the Bi-Har team gets sent packing....




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Is this shit for real???

Democrat document surfaces demanding Biden clamp down on conservative Christians, remove them from public office and re-educate Trump voters

https://drrichswier.com/2020/1...ducate-trump-voters/


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