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The Trump Presidency : Year IV
December 04, 2020, 08:53 AM
tigereye313The Trump Presidency : Year IV
quote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
Well, Hanlon's Razor is 180º wrong in this case.
Plenty of malice and stupidity to go around in this election.

December 04, 2020, 09:09 AM
oddball
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
December 04, 2020, 09:12 AM
Sunset_VaTo those suggesting the woman in the suitcase ballot video is subject to legal duress...
I really don't think that is going to happen..
The liberal mafia will look out for her.
美しい犬
December 04, 2020, 09:17 AM
lastmanstandingIt's a bit astonishing to me that at some point someone did not realize the entire building of the State Farm Arena would be under video surveillance. I doubt these were covert cameras and most likely openly visible to anyone who glanced up at the ceiling.
I'm sure Ruby and her daughter are of not of the highest intellect as proven by their blind willingness to commit a federal crime but still realizing you are under video surveillance requires only a very basic level of awareness and common sense.
I wonder how many of these other ballot counting rooms had video surveillance in the other states under question.
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
December 04, 2020, 09:19 AM
.38supersigIn Georgia 2,506 felons voted, 66,248 underaged people were registered, 2,423 unregistered people voted, 10,315 dead people voted. Nothing here to see. Move along.
December 04, 2020, 09:21 AM
lastmanstandingquote:
Originally posted by oddball:
Kemp and Raffensperger should be removed from the loop and made to sit on the sidelines until this mess gets untangled. A third party needs to be brought to do a complete supervised recount of every single ballot. Anyone involved on election night and after gets booted from the process.
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
December 04, 2020, 09:30 AM
a1abdjquote:
moving the 100,000's of bogus ballots is intriguing to say the least.
I often get called by people wanting to store large sums of cash, but have no idea how much (or really in this case little) space is required. I could carry $1,000,000 in a small bag. A briefcase will hold $2,000,000-$3,000,000.
I don't know what paper weight is being used for the Georgia ballots, but if we figured it out I suspect you'd be surprised at how little weight/space would actually be needed. Probably a ton at most. Split into suitcases at a hundred pounds or so each, and it wouldn't take many. A mini van could have been loaded and used to deliver them.
December 04, 2020, 09:34 AM
chellim1quote:
"The simplest explanation is usually the right one."
Can we apply Occam's razor to this election?
Was there voter fraud and corruption? Obviously yes. But the simplest explanation is the fact that there were enough Biden voters (whenever and however they voted) to make the voter fraud and corruption a factor. It's the people who voted for Biden that are the root cause of these election results.
Yes, and NO.
Sure, the people who voted for Biden are part of the problem.
BUT... if it weren't for the cheating there wouldn't have been enough of them. Trump won. It's the cheating, concentrated mostly in 4 urban centers, that is the root cause of these election results. Without the cheating, the Biden voters were defeated by the rest of us.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor December 04, 2020, 09:40 AM
cslingerLook I don’t care if the fraud is for the side I oppose or the side I endorse.
Voter fraud should be dealt with as quickly and as harshly as possible. I honestly believe it to be treason in my eyes.
I don’t care if it didn’t move an election needle one iota in any direction. Election fraud is treason in my eyes.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE INVOLVED NEED TO BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW WHETHER THEY WERE CAUGHT “STUFFING TRUMP OR BIDEN VOTES”
Until this happens this shit will just keep on keeping on and we as the electorate will lose more and more faith in the process.
Sigh my lips Gods ears.
Take Care, Shoot Safe,
Chris
December 04, 2020, 09:47 AM
HuskySigWhat happened to the idea of watermarked ballots? If that were true, would the Georgia suitcases be easy to separate?
December 04, 2020, 10:09 AM
airsoft guyNext election, the usual suspects will demand a location without security cameras. Security cameras are racist, don't you know? They're a threat to our democracy.
quote:
Originally posted by Will938:
If you don't become a screen writer for comedy movies, then you're an asshole.
December 04, 2020, 10:24 AM
Ackksquote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
quote:
moving the 100,000's of bogus ballots is intriguing to say the least.
I often get called by people wanting to store large sums of cash, but have no idea how much (or really in this case little) space is required. I could carry $1,000,000 in a small bag. A briefcase will hold $2,000,000-$3,000,000.
I don't know what paper weight is being used for the Georgia ballots, but if we figured it out I suspect you'd be surprised at how little weight/space would actually be needed. Probably a ton at most. Split into suitcases at a hundred pounds or so each, and it wouldn't take many. A mini van could have been loaded and used to deliver them.
The graph kimber1911 posted gives us a pretty good idea of how many were in there. That's just damming evidence.
December 04, 2020, 10:24 AM
HRKEvery ballot should be bar coded, able to be read one time and that's it, watermarked would be good as well.
One scanner reads the ballot it can never be copied, scanned or used again once the code is marked in the system.
Many documents have security features that don't allow copies, however you can defeat some of those by selecting photo vs text on a scanner or copier and the hidden security feature won't show up.
December 04, 2020, 10:31 AM
braillediverPractical Question- The suitcases under the table looks "Questionable". Who or what authority would investigate it? Federal or state? Would it take a complaint being filed to look into it or would the authority have the right to pursue it on their own?
Obviously I want something done- I'm wondering who, under what authority and how.
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December 04, 2020, 10:31 AM
TSEquote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
It's a bit astonishing to me that at some point someone did not realize the entire building of the State Farm Arena would be under video surveillance. I doubt these were covert cameras and most likely openly visible to anyone who glanced up at the ceiling.
I'm sure Ruby and her daughter are of not of the highest intellect as proven by their blind willingness to commit a federal crime but still realizing you are under video surveillance requires only a very basic level of awareness and common sense.
I wonder how many of these other ballot counting rooms had video surveillance in the other states under question.
Not a problem when the MSM is content to insist that there was no fraud, the political elites seem to be too embarrassed by it to do anything, and the social media giants are adept at censoring any potential evidence.
Note that the current refrain is that there is no proof, because while there is plenty of evidence it is necessary to investigate to generate proof, and nobody is interested in investigating.
Calgary Shooting Centre
December 04, 2020, 10:39 AM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
quote:
moving the 100,000's of bogus ballots is intriguing to say the least.
I often get called by people wanting to store large sums of cash, but have no idea how much (or really in this case little) space is required. I could carry $1,000,000 in a small bag. A briefcase will hold $2,000,000-$3,000,000.
I don't know what paper weight is being used for the Georgia ballots, but if we figured it out I suspect you'd be surprised at how little weight/space would actually be needed. Probably a ton at most. Split into suitcases at a hundred pounds or so each, and it wouldn't take many. A mini van could have been loaded and used to deliver them.
20 boxes of office copy paper is 100,000 sheets of paper weighing about 1,000 pounds. That ballots we had in Florida were much heavier than copy paper. So 100,000 ballots might be 5,000 - 10,000 pounds?
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December 04, 2020, 10:55 AM
tigereye313quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
Every ballot should be bar coded, able to be read one time and that's it, watermarked would be good as well.
One scanner reads the ballot it can never be copied, scanned or used again once the code is marked in the system.
Many documents have security features that don't allow copies, however you can defeat some of those by selecting photo vs text on a scanner or copier and the hidden security feature won't show up.
I've said precisely the same.
December 04, 2020, 11:11 AM
sdyPeople looking at Ruby Freeman's facebook page have a good lead on her daughter's name.
Ruby owns "LaRuby’s Unique Treasures".
When Ruby bragged about her daughter being Supervisor of registration, someone posted "Go Shae Shae !!"
Ruby has a facebook friend Shaye Shaye Moss (also goes by Shay)
Shay has "Shay's Unique Hair Salon" She braids hair
there is a Shaye Moss who is a Fulton county employee
December 04, 2020, 11:49 AM
83v45magnaHow is it that we have far greater penalties and sentences, mandatory and possible, for migratory birds than election and voter fraud? I am a hunter, and I don't think I have ever seen such reverence for any laws as I have observed for the Federal game laws. The roving game wardens can pretty much seize everything you have with you and leave you in the middle of nowhere if they see fit.
We need our election laws to have such teeth as to garner a true and abiding respect.
Feet, meet fire.