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Tweet during yesterdays Michigan Legislative hearing. (Not confirmed like everything on the internet.)
Regardless of it’s authenticity it speaks truth.




“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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Here is the link to the declaration mentioned in the above article by Andrea Widburg.
Link

American Thinker is not one of the sites that get out over their skis very often if at all. I only hope it's true that we had white hat patriots in the right place at the right time that are now willing to do the right thing.


I'm not familiar with the author but right off the bat there seem to be problems. I read the declaration, though there were a few of the linked screenshots that were not high enough resolution to enlarge enough to actually read. Though that was only a couple of them and I doubt would make much difference overall.

In the end, nothing in that declaration is evidence of any wrong doing.

Thanks for you're input. I guess nothing is as it seems or how it's presented anymore. Separating the wheat from the chaff has become nearly impossible.


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After the hearings in these States, if they dont overturn the results, how long before this goes to the Supreme Court?


The only thing the SCOTUS can hear relating to the election is an appeal from a lower court decision, so lawsuits filed in federal court over the election are the things that matter.

Hearings can lead to is legislation to prevent this from happening again, but that’s about it.
 
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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Tweet during yesterdays Michigan Legislative hearing. (Not confirmed like everything on the internet.)
Regardless of it’s authenticity it speaks truth.



This went on all hearing long.




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Davel.

Where do things stand regarding the law suits? I know the PA one has been appealed but not much more than that.




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Courts and politicians are not representing the people.

If Trump doesn’t stop this treason with force, then it will be on the people, but will the people do anything about it?
 
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Grassley and Johnson release a trove of FBI/DOJ/State Dept documents related to Crossfire Hurricane, the dossier, etc.
They should have been releasing documents before the election.

Twitter Link

Document 1

Document 2

Document 3



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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looking thru Georgia voting stats, a few observations:

Biden leads by 12,670 votes out of 4,998,482 votes cast. Incredibly small difference

A Libertarian candidate for president in GA got 62,138 votes.

The Libertarian said it really doesn’t matter who wins .
″[Trump and Biden] are much more like each other than we are,” she says, referring to Libertarians.
What an idiot. but she got 62,138 votes




Trump:
election day 587,697 votes
absentee 451,157
advanced voting 1,419,161
provisional 3822

Biden:
election day 367,205
absentee 849,729
advanced 1,250,509
provisional 7064

so Biden's big "advantage" was in absentee ballots

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Senate race Perdue (R) vs Ossoff (D)

Perdue 2,462,617
Ossoff 2,374,519
Libertarian Hazel 115,039

Perdue only got 49.7 % of the vote. Needed 50% to win out right

If Perdue had got 10% or higher of the Libertarian votes, Perdue would have won without Runoff
 
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If Perdue had got 10% or higher of the Libertarian votes, Perdue would have won without Runoff

I'm a Republican but have Libertarian sympathies. I think smaller government, closer to the people (local) is better than big government, centrally administered in Wash. DC.
However, the practical effect of voting Libertarian is to elect Democrats.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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What’s going on with Sydney Powell? Does she have a case in court right now? I see hear on talk shows but I want to know if she is presenting evidence in court.


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If Perdue had got 10% or higher of the Libertarian votes, Perdue would have won without Runoff

I'm a Republican but have Libertarian sympathies. I think smaller government, closer to the people (local) is better than big government, centrally administered in Wash. DC.
However, the practical effect of voting Libertarian is to elect Democrats.


Jorgensen is super authoritarian. I think she forgot what party she was in.



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Lin Wood and Sidney Powell are saying some strange things. Very confusing.

Newt Gingrich:

Lin Wood and Sidney Powell are totally destructive. Every Georgia conservative who cares about America MUST vote in the runoff. Their dont vote strategy will cripple America
 
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Lin Wood and Sidney Powell are saying some strange things. Very confusing.

Newt Gingrich:

Lin Wood and Sidney Powell are totally destructive. Every Georgia conservative who cares about America MUST vote in the runoff. Their dont vote strategy will cripple America

Yeah, I see that side of things, people should vote for them, but maybe they represent how most voters feel. They didn't say not to vote for them, they said don't vote if they don't get involved.

If those two want votes then get out there and fight for us as well. Them not jumping into the fight is destructive to their own campaigns. They own what happens.
 
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I’m with ackks on this. They need to get out and fight for this! Fight for an honest vote. You know the runoff will be rigged if at all possible.
 
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Sidney Powell Files Suit in Wisconsin to Block State From Certifying Results

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-12-03-2

Attorney Sidney Powell filed a lawsuit on Tuesday alleging an “egregious range of conduct” in Wisconsin at the direction of Wisconsin state election officials.

Powell is asking the court to block Gov. Tony Evers from transferring currently certified election results in Wisconsin to the Electoral College, and have Evers and the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) reverse the certification, “pending a full investigation and court hearing.” Powell is also asking the court to order an independent audit of the election “to ensure the accuracy and integrity of the election.”

The suit (pdf) was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin against the WEC and Evers. It alleges an “egregious range of conduct” in Milwaukee County and the City of Milwaukee, along with Dane County, La Crosse County, Waukesha County, St. Croix County, Washington County, Bayfield County, Ozaukee County, as well as other counties throughout the Third District and throughout Wisconsin that employ election software and hardware from Dominion Voting Systems.

The suit alleges “massive election fraud” that violates the Wisconsin Election Code and the U.S. Constitution. It alleges a “scheme and artifice to defraud” in Wisconsin that was done “for the purpose of illegally and fraudulently manipulating the vote count to manufacture an election of Joe Biden as President of the United States, and also of various down-ballot democrat candidates in the 2020 election cycle.”

“The fraud was executed by many means, but the most fundamentally troubling, insidious, and egregious ploy was the systemic adaptation of old-fashioned ‘ballot-stuffing.’ It has now been amplified and rendered virtually invisible by computer software created and run by domestic and foreign actors for that very purpose,” the complaint states.

Several of the allegations in the suit, including the above allegations, as well as much pertaining to Dominion, appear similar to those laid out in prior lawsuits that Powell filed in Georgia, Michigan, and more recently, Arizona.

Biden leads by 20,682 votes in Wisconsin following a partial recount in Milwaukee and Dane counties. Gov. Tony Evers on Monday signed a certificate of ascertainment, which formally awards electoral votes to Biden.

The suit named plaintiffs as William Feehan, one of the state’s GOP electors, as well as Derrick Van Orden, a Republican candidate for Congress.

Van Orden, a former U.S. Navy Seal, had lost by about 10,000 votes to Democrat incumbent Ron Kind in the general election for U.S. House Wisconsin District 3. The suit says that he is seeking to have a new election ordered by the court in the Third District “conducted under strict adherence with the Wisconsin Election Code.”

However, Van Orden announced on Twitter on Wednesday, “I learned through social media today that my name was included in a lawsuit without my permission. To be clear, I am not involved in the lawsuit seeking to overturn the election in Wisconsin.”
Judge’s Order

Pamela Pepper, the Chief U.S. District Judge of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin, issued an order (pdf) on Dec. 2 that noted that while the motion said that an order would be attached to detail the specific relief sought by the plaintiffs, it took a while for the document to be properly filed, and that while the proposed order asks for “various injunctions, declarations, and orders,” it “does not ask for a hearing.”

She also wrote that the complaint “is not verified.”

Pepper ordered plaintiffs need to notify the court that they have provided notice to the adverse parties of the motion, and that until then, “the court will not take any action.” The exception is if the plaintiffs showed that “immediate and irreparable injury, loss or damage will result” to them before the defendant “has a chance to be heard in opposition”; and if Powell “certifies in writing any efforts made to give notice and the reasons why notice should not be required.”

Pepper also wrote that even though the proposed order seeks an “expedited” injunction, “neither the motion nor the proposed order indicate whether the plaintiffs are asking the court to act more quickly or why.”

She said in her order that if the defendants have been notified and no expedited briefing is necessary, then those parties have twenty-one days to respond to the motion, and plaintiffs have fourteen days to reply.

“If the plaintiffs believe an expedited briefing schedule is necessary or warranted, they may contact chambers, with representatives of the adverse parties on the line, and request a telephone hearing. Otherwise, the court will await the defendants’ opposition brief,” Pepper wrote.
‘Illegal Ballots’

The suit alleged, citing data analyses detailed in accompanying affidavits, that some 318,012 illegal ballots were counted as votes in Wisconsin, which is more than 15 times the margin by which Democrat Joe Biden is leading President Donald Trump in the state. One statistical analysis showed that Biden overperformed in precincts that relied on Dominion machines, according to the complaint.

About 15,000 mail-in ballots were lost, and about 18,000 were “fraudulently recorded” for voters who never asked for mail-in ballots, the suit alleged. It also said that nearly 7,000 ineligible voters who moved out of Wisconsin had “illegally voted” in the state.

It cited a statistical study that allegedly shows Biden overperforming in precincts that relied on Dominion machines.

“The results from the vast majority of counties using the Dominion machines is 3 to 5.6 percentage points higher in favor of candidate Biden. … The results from “Dominion” counties do not match the results from the rest of the counties in the United States,” the complaint read, adding, “The results are clearly statistically significant.”
Alleged Violations of State Law

The suit alleged that the WEC had directed clerks to “violate the Wisconsin Election Code” regarding absentee voting through not requiring a photo ID for an “indefinitely confined” absentee ballot, for people who claim the status of being “indefinitely confined.”

The complaint says that “Wisconsin election procedures for voting absentee based on ‘indefinitely confined’ status circumvent the photo ID requirement, creating an avenue for fraudulent voting.”

It notes that Wisconsin law stipulates that any elector who seeks an “indefinitely confined” status may not use the “indefinitely confined” absentee ballot if they are no longer actually “indefinitely confined.” It also acknowledged that the municipal clerk must remove the names of electors from that status if they receive reliable information that the elector no longer qualifies for it.

“Despite this clear statutory requirement, the Administrator of the Wisconsin Election Commission, Meagan Wolfe, issued a written directive on May 13, 2020 to the clerks across the State of Wisconsin stating that the clerks cannot remove an allegedly ‘indefinitely confined’ absentee voter from the absentee voter register if the clerk had ‘reliable information’ that an allegedly ‘indefinitely confined’ absentee voter is no longer ‘indefinitely confined,'” read the complaint.

The suit also cited other issues of violation of Wisconsin law, including how the WEC had issued guidance (pdf) to “cure” ballots that don’t have witness addresses. Wisconsin law stipulates that a ballot cannot be counted if the witness’s address is not present.

The WEC also allegedly directed its clerks to fill in missing witness or voter certification information on absentee ballot certificates and envelopes. The instruction is “without any legal basis in the Wisconsin Election Code,” the complaint contends.


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Live now: LIVE: Georgia Senate Committees Hold Hearings on Election Issues

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-12-03-2


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Live now: LIVE: Georgia Senate Committees Hold Hearings on Election Issues

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-12-03-2


Showing video of unsupervised ballot processing now.UNBELIEVABLE!



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https://www.rasmussenreports.c...act&utm_medium=email

Americans continue to agree with the Trump administration that the U.S. Census should include a citizenship question and say illegal immigrants should not be counted when congressional seats are being apportioned.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 65% of American Adults still believe the U.S. Census should ask respondents whether they are citizens of the United States. Twenty-five percent (25%) disagree, while 10% are not sure. This is unchanged from January 2019 when a federal judge ruled against including a citizenship question in the 2020 Census.

A plurality (48%) thinks illegal immigrants should not be counted as part of the Census and not used in the state-by-state breakdown of seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. Forty-one percent (41%) believe they should be counted. Eleven percent (11%) are undecided.
 
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still tracking two House seats

NY22 and Iowa 2

Iowa 2 :

Rita Hart (D) was defeated by GOP candidate Dr. Mariannette Miller-Meeks by just 6 votes after the state recounted ballots two separate times, and declared Miller-Meeks as the winner.

Rita Hart announced plans to file a petition with the House of Representatives under the Federal Contested Elections Act in order to have the results of her election overturned

Yes, Hart is asking Nancy Pelosi to declare Hart the winner.


Dave Wasserman:

"In effect, Hart is asking a Democratic-led House to overturn Iowa's recounted, certified results. If she had provable claims, why wouldn't she take them to court instead? Imo, it's an awful look."

NY 22 :

https://www.syracuse.com/polit...isputed-ballots.html

Lawyers for Rep. Anthony Brindisi and Claudia Tenney today will begin zeroing in on 809 disputed ballots – or two-tenths of one percent of the vote – to decide an election for Congress in which almost 318,000 people voted.

Tenney, a Republican from New Hartford, leads Brindisi, D-Utica, by only 12 votes, according to official counts submitted to a judge Monday by the eight counties in the 22nd Congressional District.

A judge has also asked to see more than 1,600 additional ballots where Democratic and Republican election commissioners agreed – without objection from the candidates – that the votes should be rejected for obvious reasons, such as cases where ballots were cast by unregistered voters.

Judge Scott J. DelConte asked for all of those rejected ballots to be delivered to his courtroom last week for possible review. He would have to overrule the election commissioners, and their decision accepted by both candidates, for a rejected ballot to be counted.

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standard DEM playbook. keep counting till the DEM is ahead. Then stop counting
 
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