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Do these four asswipes even have so much as a passing acquaintance with the US Constitution anymore? Unreal

I'm sure they have more than just a passing familiarity with it they just don't agree with or like it very much.

The below says it all... Roberts completely missed the point.

Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote a separate opinion siding with the conservative majority, saying churches and synagogues were treated differently than commercial institutions by the state.

“It is time — past time — to make plain that, while the pandemic poses many grave challenges, there is no world in which the Constitution tolerates color-coded executive edicts that reopen liquor stores and bike shops but shutter churches, synagogues, and mosques,” Gorsuch argued.

Roberts' dissenting opinion accused the court of acting irrationally and disregarding the public health expertise of the state.

"It is a significant matter to override determinations made by public health officials concerning what is necessary for public safety in the midst of a deadly pandemic," he wrote.

LINK

yep

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...kdown-order-n2580719

SCOTUS Ruling on Religious Services During COVID Lockdowns Removes Obstacle Named Chief Justice Roberts

"Chief Justice John Roberts, who arguably is now the face of the Court’s liberal wing"

In light of the PA hearings and Powell's Kraken release, let's put this out there

Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election

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Originally posted by sdy:
"Chief Justice John Roberts, who arguably is now the face of the Court’s liberal wing"

The Court's leftist, statist wing, more accurately.

It is in no way "liberal" to take the position that some government official's beliefs trump the U.S. Constitution. It is the Court's, ultimately the Supreme Court's role to rein-in such government overreach.

I guess Justice Roberts and his leftist SCOTUS colleagues have either forgotten that or never learned it.

Poll Watcher Describes Pennsylvania Election Irregularities, Including 47 Missing USB Cards

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-11-26-2

A Republican poll observer from Pennsylvania’s Delaware County, told a Senate GOP Policy Committee hearing in Gettysburg on Wednesday, that he witnessed a range of Election Day irregularities, including 47 USB cards that went missing.

Greg Stenstrom, who, besides being a poll watcher, said he is an expert in security fraud, told the hearing that he witnessed a number of chain-of-custody violations, including around mail-in ballots, the balance of votes from drop boxes, and the handling of USB card flash drives—all of which he said broke rules defined by the Delaware County Board of Elections and the election process review.

“They didn’t follow one,” Stenstrom said. “It shocked me that this could happen,” he added.

He described witnessing a situation in which data on USB cards was uploaded to voting machines by a warehouse superviser without being observed by a poll watcher, which he said he saw happening at least 24 times.

“He’s walking in with baggies, which we have pictures of and that were submitted in our affidavits,” Stenstrom said, adding that Democrat poll watchers also witnessed this occurrence.

Stenstrom said he was told by an attorney that it’s normal for several USB cards to be left in machines and then brought back by the warehouse manager for input into tally systems. He added that when he later raised the issue with U.S. Attorney General William McSwain and some law enforcement officers, he was told it is unusual for more than two drives to be left in voting machines.

He said he was later told that “these 24 to 30 cards that were uploaded” were unaccounted for, adding that “as of today, 47 USB v-cards are missing.”

“People ask me all the time, how do people commit crimes? I know there’s a lot of theories here. And I always look for the simplest thing. People that stuff…stick USB sticks in, putting ballots in—a very simple thing. Only takes a couple of people, doesn’t take a big conspiracy,” he said.

“As a forensic computer scientist, my interest is in the data—where did it go? Where did the spoilage go? How did the data come in and go out of the system?” he said, and called for an audit.

Stenstrom also said that it recently emerged that “virtually all chain of custody logs, records, yellow sheets, everything was gone” in Delaware County.

“They had a signing party where they sat down, and coworkers were invited back to recreate those logs,” he said. “And our understanding as of today was that they were unsuccessful in getting them all.”

He said the situation is that there are up to 120,000 ballots that remain “in question.”

“There’s no cure for this, no remedy for this,” he said, adding, “I don’t believe, as a citizen and an observer to this, that anybody could certify that vote in good conscience.”

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The Court's leftist, statist wing, more accurately.

Yes, exactly. Roberts was GW Bush's biggest mistake. He's joined the enemy ranks.

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The Court's leftist, statist wing, more accurately.

Yes, exactly. Roberts was GW Bush's biggest mistake. He's joined the enemy ranks.

I was never overly impressed with GWB in the first place. (And that's putting it mildly.) I suspect Roberts hasn't joined so much as was already part of.

I first began to doubt Roberts when he sided with the majority on what I felt to be an outrageous eminent domain case. Haven't seen anything since to suggest he's anything except the statist thug that decision suggested he was.

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The below says it all... Roberts completely missed the point.

I don't believe he's missed the point. Roberts made a singular ruling earlier this year that allowed the state of Nevada to continue to treat churches more harshly than casinos and other secular forms of gathering. He's dirty and owned by the Left.



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And in Chenango County, 200 computers containing important election files were infiltrated by hackers, who demanded $450 in ransom per computer. County IT Director Herman Ericksen told the Associated Press they will not be paying the ransom.

Most secure election ever....

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...3 close races still not called

CA 25
Iowa 2
NY 22

Iowa 2 is still too close to call, like 35 votes apart with the GOP candidate still ahead. It's my district and I'll report when it happens. If you're interested:

https://qconline.com/news/elec...rce=home-top-story-1

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Gosh! I'm putting myself on moderated status.

Most of what I know about the Supreme Court comes from reading this forum, so I wasn't trying to be sarcastic or rude and I apologize if my real question came off that way. I was fairly sure Stevens was not a member and had to look it up.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Gosh! I'm putting myself on moderated status.

Most of what I know about the Supreme Court comes from reading this forum, so I wasn't trying to be sarcastic or rude and I apologize if my real question came off that way. I was fairly sure Stevens was not a member and had to look it up.

Not at all! I always think of the name John Paul Stevens instead of Roberts.

I believe that Trump, Sidney, and L Lin Woods are concentrating heavily on Ga. right now because of the Senate seats. They want to make sure Ga. is plenty "gun shy" of anymore crooked crap. That is not to say the other states are being forgotten about. I so hope they find all of the dirt on the Az election and correct it. I do NOT believe that AZ went blue legally.


I kinds like the way this KRACKEN looks so far!!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/j...share_mobilewebshare

Kimberly Strassel

Chief Justice John Marshall once described the presidential pardon as “an act of grace.” In the case of Mike Flynn, Donald Trump’s pardon was something more. It was a requirement of justice.

Mr. Trump announced on Twitter Wednesday that he’d granted Mr. Flynn a full pardon. Liberals and the media are (as per their tedious usual) claiming the president stepped in to aid a corrupt crony. This has it exactly backward. The Flynn pardon was necessary—to correct a corrupt Federal Bureau of Investigation, a rogue special counsel, an unprincipled federal judge, and an embarrassingly complicit media.

This story dripped out over years, so it took until recently to get a full accounting of the government’s Trump-by-proxy takedown of Mr. Flynn. A decorated veteran, Mr. Flynn advised the Trump campaign and in November 2016 was named national security adviser. The FBI had spent months monitoring him as part of its Russia-collusion fantasy, yet by Jan. 4, 2017, it had found nothing and moved to close its case .

In rushed Peter Strzok—the now-disgraced then-FBI agent—to keep the investigation open. The FBI had snooped on a Flynn call to the then-Russian ambassador to the U.S. This is perfectly legal; ask Joe Biden’s team, which is making such calls now. The FBI nonetheless debated a ludicrous Logan Act charge, before settling on a simpler course. As former FBI counterintelligence head Bill Priestap put it in handwritten notes, one FBI option was “to get [Mr. Flynn] to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired .”


The FBI didn’t need to interview the National Security Agency about his conversation; it had the transcript. Yet the bureau’s then-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe sandbagged Mr. Flynn, arranging for him to meet with FBI agents without a lawyer. Former FBI Director Jim Comey later gloated over the setup . The FBI also chose not to provide Mr. Flynn a standard warning against lying, to keep him comfortable. Despite all this, the agents reported—according to government notes—that they “believe that F. believes that what he said was true.” He didn’t intentionally lie.

Fast forward to Robert Mueller, who didn’t care. The FBI knew in January 2017 that its collusion investigation was a bust; it confirmed the Steele dossier was a fabrication. So Mr. Comey engineered a special counsel to salvage the FBI’s reputation by ginning up unrelated “crimes.” Mr. Mueller dredged up the Flynn interview and threatened to prosecute the former national security adviser’s son unless Mr. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying. Facing bankruptcy, Mr. Flynn succumbed to this naked abuse of power.

Hope came with a new lawyer and Attorney General William Barr’s 2020 decision to review the case. But even as the executive branch moved to right its wrongs, a federal judge took up the persecutorial torch. In May the Justice Department moved to drop its case, presenting Judge Emmet Sullivan with veteran prosecutor Jeffrey Jensen’s assessment that the FBI never had a legitimate purpose in interviewing Mr. Flynn, that he should never have been prosecuted. The department also presented papers documenting the FBI’s shocking behavior.


The Justice Department, not judges, makes the call on whom to prosecute. Yet Judge Sullivan refused to accept the withdrawal, instead indulging his politics and his inner petty tyrant. He went so far as to appoint a fellow conspiracy theorist, retired Judge John Gleeson, to spout evidence-free claims that prosecutors were giving special treatment to Mr. Flynn. Judge Sullivan’s behavior was so outrageous that a federal appeals panel in June ordered him to dismiss the case . The full appellate court in August agreed to let him hold a hearing while warning him to get his act together.

Judge Sullivan held his hearing in September but by this week had yet to rule. Mr. Trump might have waited, in hope that Judge Sullivan would feel mounting pressure to regain some credibility by dismissing. Then again, there was every reason to believe the judge would string this out beyond Jan. 20. He’s made clear all along he wants Mr. Flynn subject to an avenging Biden Justice Department. Not because Mr. Flynn broke the law, but because Mr. Flynn is a stand-in for a president the judicial, prosecutorial and media elites despise.

That’s the sad reality of the Flynn mess. In a better world, the Flynn case would have been dismissed with prejudice, an on-the-record censure of appalling FBI and Justice Department behavior. But that’s why the judge refused to do it. It had nothing to do with guilt or innocence—but rather reputation. We remain in the last gasps of Never Trump world, where people of power told themselves it was OK to break rules, norms, standards—even the law—in their quest to take the president down . To dismiss the Flynn case would have been to acknowledge that this behavior was wrong. And that would have been too painful, too embarrassing, too galling for the haters.

So it was left to the White House to make this right, to take a wrecking ball to a rigged system. Mr. Trump acted correctly. And there could have been no more fitting, final rebuke to four years of drive-by shootings than to release the man the cabal claimed as its very first victim . Justice indeed, and on many levels.

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I believe that Trump, Sidney, and L Lin Woods are concentrating heavily on Ga. right now because of the Senate seats. They want to make sure Ga. is plenty "gun shy" of anymore crooked crap.

That may be, but, as alluded-to by Giuliani and Ellis in yesterday's hearing in PA ...

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That is not to say the other states are being forgotten about.

As posted earlier: The Kraken has also been released upon Michigan: Complaint for Declaratory, Emergency, and Permanent Injunctive Relief (Michigan)

Unless I'm mistaken, I believe they have Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, and possibly Arizona in their sights.

And of course RazorFist, spot on as always. NSFW.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zScUuoGdQrI

Gorsuch in the recent SC ruling:

Why have some mistaken this Court's modest decision in Jacobson for a towering authority that overshadows the Constitution during a pandemic?

In the end, I can only surmise that much of the answer lies in a particular judicial impulse to stay out of the way in times of crisis.

But if that impulse may be understandable or even admirable in other circumstances, we may not shelter in place when the Constitution is under attack . Things never go well when we do.

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But if that impulse may be understandable or even admirable in other circumstances, we may not shelter in place when the Constitution is under attack . Things never go well when we do.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!”

“And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”

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Originally posted by sdy:

But if that impulse may be understandable or even admirable in other circumstances, we may not shelter in place when the Constitution is under attack . Things never go well when we do.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!”

“And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”

Define "extremism" and "moderation" in these contexts.

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Define "extremism" and "moderation" in these contexts.

Meaning we shouldn't roll over and say "well, we tried, we can let Trump run again in 2024.

Meaninh SCOTUS better pull its head out of its arse and rule in favor of The Constitution and the Law.

Meaning we should support our president no matter how dirty the leftists get.

Extremism is rooting out, exposing, and eradicating corruption wherever it is found.

Moderation is rolling over, giving up, and letting the leftists destroy this country so that the msm doesn't say mean things about you.