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The Trump Presidency : Year IV
September 30, 2020, 02:36 PM
ZSMICHAELThe Trump Presidency : Year IV
Ted Koppel was an expert in terms of dealing with conflicts. I recall the early days of Nightline when he had the contentious Iranian diplomats. Nightline became too cerebral and ABC ended the show. Being a moderator and a good interviewer are skills learned over many years. Ted also kept a lid on his own politics.
September 30, 2020, 02:42 PM
sdyBreitbart identifies 6 Biden hoaxes that the Trump campaign should now hammer.
https://www.breitbart.com/poli...in-the-first-debate/1. The Charlottesville “very fine people” hoax. Moderator Chris Wallace repeated the lie that Trump referred to neo-Nazis in Charlottesville as “very fine people.” On cue, Biden used his script: “coming out of the fields, carrying torches, their veins bulging.” Trump interjected — “Finish the statement” — but Wallace shut him down. Trump needed to use his next response to say: “Look at what I said. I condemned the neo-Nazis and the white supremacists ‘totally.’ Stop lying to America, Joe.”
2. The “inject bleach” hoax. Biden claimed — as he has before — that Trump said “maybe you could inject some bleach in your arm” for coronavirus. Trump never said that. He spoke at a press briefing about using ultraviolet light as a disinfectant, asking about experimental uses inside the body. At the time, when asked if he was telling people to inject disinfectant, Trump said no. Inexplicably, Trump told Biden at the debate that he was being “sarcastic.” He needed to call Biden’s claim a lie.
3. The “white supremacists” hoax. Both Wallace and Biden falsely suggested that Trump had never condemned white supremacists before. Trump tried to deflect. He should have immediately said: “That’s not true. I have condemned white supremacists over and over again — and I do so here again tonight. I condemn white supremacy.” He then should have pivoted to Biden’s record: “Joe Biden told black people they’re not black if they don’t vote for him. What a thing to say.”
4. The “China” hoax. Biden claimed, falsely, that Trump “did not even ask Xi” to allow U.S. investigators into China at the start of coronavirus. He has used that false claim before — and it has even been debunked by the Washington Post. Trump’s only reply was: “Wrong.” He needed more detail. Trump did ask China to admit U.S. investigators for weeks, and they were allowed in before Biden even brought it up. He should cite the Washington Post, which gave Biden “three Pinnocchios.”
5. The “peaceful protesters” hoax. Biden repeatedly claims that Trump 1. ordered the military to 2. use tear gas 3. to clear “peaceful protesters” from the park in front of the White House to walk across and 4. hold a Bible upside-down. Biden used three out of the four. Trump needs to say: 1. It was the Park Police. 2. They did not use tear gas. 3. The protest was violent, and assaulted police and journalists. 4. He held the Bible as a symbol of right and wrong, and Biden was on the wrong side.
6. The Atlantic “suckers” and “losers” hoax. Biden repeated the Atlantic‘s claim that Trump called Americans who died in World War I “suckers” and “losers.” It is a phony claim that has been specifically denied by John Bolton — a Trump critic — among others. Trump should have said that — immediately. Instead, he brought up Biden’s wayward son, Hunter Biden — a legitimate target, but a wasted opportunity. Trump returned to the Atlantic story later — but a hoax has to be killed right away.
September 30, 2020, 02:43 PM
AckksThe more I think about it the more pissed off I am at that sack of crap Wallace. He knew damn well from debate prep how many times the President has condemned them. He knows what was in the program he suggested last week in Atlanta. To not only ask the question, but then to cut him off and say, "then do it" shows what a biased piece of freaking trash he is and what a sham that debate was.
September 30, 2020, 03:02 PM
flashguyquote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
During the debate Biden proposed sending a psychologist or psychiatrist along with the police to deescalate violent situations. REALLY?
Yeah. I heard that and also thougght it a ridiculous proposition. I can just imagine how it would go down--badly. Only an insane psychologist or psychiatrist would even agree to do that--they don't want to be shot.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth September 30, 2020, 03:05 PM
RightwireEasy fix for next debate.
Each candidate is in a sound proof booth. Microphone and speaker controlled by the moderator. A red and green light in each booth. Wireless blocker in each booth.
Green light - you can talk
Red light - you can only listen
Moderator controls the Trump Talk / Biden Talk / Moderator Talk switch.
The audience can hear everything.
Totally controlled debate, and social distant so no masks.
See, simple.....
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There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. September 30, 2020, 03:06 PM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
During the debate Biden proposed sending a psychologist or psychiatrist along with the police to deescalate violent situations. REALLY?
Yeah. I heard that and also thougght it a ridiculous proposition. I can just imagine how it would go down--badly. Only an insane psychologist or psychiatrist would even agree to do that--they don't want to be shot.
flashguy
And I'd like to see all the psychologists or psychiatrists on call for when this stuff goes down at 3 am on a Saturday. These people are out of their damn minds with this BS.

September 30, 2020, 03:16 PM
P220 Smudgequote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
Easy fix for next debate.
Yeah. No thanks. Governing a nation doesn't work like that. If anything, I'm more in favor of not having a moderator. Let them go at it and see what shakes out.
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September 30, 2020, 03:33 PM
RichardCquote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
Easy fix for next debate.
Each candidate is in a sound proof booth. Microphone and speaker controlled by the moderator. A red and green light in each booth.
See, simple.....
Yes, they should get smart about it.
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September 30, 2020, 03:40 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
Easy fix for next debate.
You're gonna put the President of the United States in a fucking booth, and cut off his microphone? There's no way that Donald Trump agrees to either of those things. If you think he would agree to such nonsense, you don't know Donald Trump. He wouldn't agree to that insanity even if the playing field was level, which it most certainly is not.
His name is Trump, not chump.
September 30, 2020, 03:41 PM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by RichardC
Yes, they should get smart about it.
September 30, 2020, 03:46 PM
HRKquote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
Easy fix for next debate.
Each candidate is in a sound proof booth. Microphone and speaker controlled by the moderator. A red and green light in each booth. Wireless blocker in each booth.
Green light - you can talk
Red light - you can only listen
Moderator controls the Trump Talk / Biden Talk / Moderator Talk switch.
The audience can hear everything.
Totally controlled debate, and social distant so no masks.
See, simple.....
You vill debate der vey ve vish comrade! Da?
September 30, 2020, 03:49 PM
mbinkyLooks like cutting the mic's really is going to be part of the next one. I don't see Trump agreeing to that (nor should he).
Debate commission adding option to cut candidates' mics: reportSeptember 30, 2020, 03:49 PM
nhtagmemberRand Paul is suggesting that a better format would be a 1 on 1 interview with the moderator for 30 or 45 minutes, the other candidate not present
ask the same questions in the same order and let the candidate talk unobstructed
if you want to hear the position and thought process, thats a reasonable alternative given the animosity
but I still like a good slugfest
September 30, 2020, 03:52 PM
12131quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Rand Paul is suggesting that a better format would be a 1 on 1 interview with the moderator for 30 or 45 minutes, the other candidate not present
ask the same questions in the same order and let the candidate talk unobstructed
if you want to hear the position and thought process, thats a reasonable alternative given the animosity
Dumb Rand Paul. It's a debate, not an interview. The enemy needs to be called out for their lies.
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September 30, 2020, 04:01 PM
GT-40DOCI don't know about others, but I was exhausted by the time the "debate" was ended. Wallace was obviously helping Biden every chance he got, and Trump knew it. The Pres came out swinging, and never stopped......he is a fighter. I don't know if I will subject myself to the next debate.
September 30, 2020, 04:22 PM
Dakorquote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
Looks like cutting the mic's really is going to be part of the next one. I don't see Trump agreeing to that (nor should he).
Debate commission adding option to cut candidates' mics: report
Then Trump should walk on stage with a bullhorn at the next debate.
September 30, 2020, 04:25 PM
nhtagmember^^^
and thats the reason I think an interview style would be far more appropriate and more enlightening as to the positions and policies
the talking back and forth, talking over each other, finger pointing, being called liars left me feeling like my time was wasted - I learned nothing new
I already knew I was going to vote for Trump and that Biden was a moron
I came away with no new insights - I watched some replays this morning and glad I didn't waste my time watching the rest of the show
September 30, 2020, 04:27 PM
Ackksquote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
^^^
and thats the reason I think an interview style would be far more appropriate and more enlightening as to the positions and policies
the talking back and forth, talking over each other, finger pointing, being called liars left me feeling like my time was wasted - I learned nothing new
I already knew I was going to vote for Trump and that Biden was a moron
I came away with no new insights - I watched some replays this morning and glad I didn't waste my time watching the rest of the show
What do you have to freaking learn at this point? It's about watching the President pin his ears back.
September 30, 2020, 04:30 PM
recoatliftThe Donald came out swinging and never stopped. People that don’t understand the Don realize a bit late he’s full bore, non-stop. Always digging for a way in...the Honey Badger.
September 30, 2020, 04:34 PM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
...I don't see Trump agreeing to that (nor should he). ...
And, just like that, Biden would get to skate on the other debates, while Trump gets the blame.
BTW- I agree with you.
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