The answer is, it has never been done. And, there is nothing to stop him from doing so. It would be the first test case for the court, if he went ahead and pull that stunt. It was suggested to FBHO that he pardon the illegals, but he never went ahead with it.
Q
January 05, 2025, 09:40 AM
911Boss
I’m not a lawyer, but I would think a person would have to specifically be named for a pardon. No president should be able to essentially side-step the citizen ship requirements of the Constitution with the wave of a pen.
What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
January 05, 2025, 09:42 AM
Fly-Sig
A person cannot be pardoned for future crimes. While one could be pardoned for being in the country illegally yesterday, that person is still breaking the law tomorrow by being here. Just as a person could be pardoned for kidnapping someone yesterday, if they continue holding the victim captive tomorrow then they are still committing a crime tomorrow.
The act of crossing the border or remaining past a visa expiration date could be pardoned. But I don't believe that would confer legal status. Just as being pardoned for bank robbery would not make it legal to hold onto the stolen cash.
January 05, 2025, 09:49 AM
Rick Lee
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss: I’m not a lawyer, but I would think a person would have to specifically be named for a pardon.
I don't know if Carter's pardon of Vietnam War draft dodgers was blanket or named individuals. I can't imagine the Pardon Review Board compiled a complete list of names, but maybe they did.
January 05, 2025, 11:39 AM
DanH
quote:
Originally posted by Rick Lee: I don't know if Carter's pardon of Vietnam War draft dodgers was blanket or named individuals. I can't imagine the Pardon Review Board compiled a complete list of names, but maybe they did.
For that argument, you can still say that the draft dodgers were US citizens. Wouldn't that open the can of worms that a US President can pardon someone anywhere in the world who isn't a US citizen?
It's bullshit, but makes for an interesting debate.
January 05, 2025, 11:57 AM
parabellum
Back on track please, guys. There's a Biden thread for this stuff.
January 06, 2025, 01:31 AM
12131
January 6th, 2025, the day the Kackle has to face her final humiliation by certifying the man she called "fascist" as the 47th President of The United States. How sweet it is.
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January 06, 2025, 04:33 AM
Chuck Perry
quote:
Originally posted by 12131: January 6th, 2025, the day the Kackle has to face her final humiliation by certifying the man she called "fascist" as the 47th President of The United States. How sweet it is.
Can't wait, I've been looking forward to this one.
January 06, 2025, 09:05 AM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by 12131: January 6th, 2025, the day the Kackle has to face her final humiliation by certifying the man she called "fascist" as the 47th President of The United States. How sweet it is.
Yes... How sweet it is.
The timing of certification is defined by a federal law originally passed in 1887 and updated as recently as 2022. And they’ve moved it before. In 2013, Congress shifted certification to January 4th since the 6th fell on a Sunday.
I think they wait waaayyyy too long with this inter-regnum period. They could certify within two weeks and have the inauguration in early December. Especially with this Biden regime wreaking havoc during this time.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
January 06, 2025, 09:25 AM
LS1 GTO
Any coincidence President Potato Head will not be in DC today?
He could have been present and delayed the NOLA trip to tomorrow...
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
"If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers
The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own...
January 06, 2025, 09:33 AM
RichardC
Someone's hacked the electronic sign in front of a local school zone for a week or so.. Its been fun driving by to see what the message of the day is.
Last one was " Go, 'Noles.'
Today:
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January 06, 2025, 09:44 AM
chellim1
The January 6 “Insurrection” that Wasn‘t January 6
Typically, coup attempts do not wrap up in time for dinner.
But over the next few days, with the anniversary of the 2021 January 6 Capitol riot having become a progressive political holiday worthy of obsessive memorialization, the nation will be deluged with tales of attempted government overthrow, Trumpian lunacy, and the FBI desperately trying to explain why it has yet to catch a person who—on video—placed two pipe bombs in DC that day but has somehow gloriously managed to track down and prosecute 1,000 trespassers.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
January 06, 2025, 10:52 AM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
I think they wait waaayyyy too long with this inter-regnum period. They could certify within two weeks and have the inauguration in early December. Especially with this Biden regime wreaking havoc during this time.
Could be worse, I believe Presidential inaugurations used to take place in March
"I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023
January 06, 2025, 12:25 PM
Chuck Perry
Gonna be a drinking night in the Harris household tonight.
January 06, 2025, 12:34 PM
HRK
Awesome, she has to certify Trump and hear all the states she lost offer up their votes certified and true for DJT..
January 06, 2025, 12:42 PM
darthfuster
Doug better hide the breakables in the house
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 06, 2025, 12:45 PM
P220 Smudge
That was thoroughly enjoyable. I look forward to inauguration day! Another side benefit, Kamala also gets to be there to watch him sworn in.
______________________________________________ Endeavoring to master the subtle art of the grapefruit spoon.
January 06, 2025, 01:05 PM
tatortodd
quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Perry: Gonna be a drinking night in the Harris household tonight.
She'll be day drinking today and will start in the VP limo.
Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity
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January 06, 2025, 01:06 PM
oddball
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
