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The Trump Presidency : Year IV

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October 03, 2024, 02:53 PM
HRK
The Trump Presidency : Year IV
https://x.com/BryceMLipscomb/s.../1841523803127414921


October 03, 2024, 06:34 PM
wcb6092
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I would like for this to be true, but I am skeptical. In this day and time anyone can put a map on twitter with any outcome they like.

Where did the polling data come from?


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October 03, 2024, 06:41 PM
12131
Hundreds of national security officials, ex-Cabinet members, Gold Star families endorse Trump
Trump endorsed by 400 foreign policy, national security officials from previous GOP admins

By Chris Pandolfo | Fox News
Published October 3, 2024 6:58pm EDT | Updated October 3, 2024 7:01pm EDT

More than 400 national security and foreign policy officials, ex-Cabinet members, retired military officers and Gold Star families endorsed former President Trump on Thursday.

In an open letter organized by former National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien and former NSC Chief of Staff Alex Gray, the signatories condemn the "repeated failures" of the Biden-Harris administration's foreign policy and urged Americans to re-elect Trump.

"From a world at peace under President Trump, we are closer to a third world war than ever before under the Biden-Harris Administration," the letter states. "With multiple escalating wars around the world, an open border that allows terrorists to flood into the American homeland, and malign actors like China operating unabated, U.S. national security has been profoundly damaged by the failed policies of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden."

The endorsement was signed by several prominent officials from the Trump administration, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, former Attorney General Bill Barr, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations and former 2024 Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley, and many more.

Eleven family members of the 13 American troops killed at Abbey Gate at Kabul's airport during the 2021 U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan also signed the letter, which praised Trump's foreign policy record in contrast to Biden's controversial actions.

"When President Trump took office, the war in Afghanistan had dragged on for almost 16 years. By February 2020, a peace agreement was reached, ensuring no American soldier was killed in combat until the end of the Trump Administration. This agreement held strong because the Taliban understood President Trump’s resolve and U.S. forces were prepared to ensure their compliance," the letter reads.

"The botched withdrawal from Afghanistan under the Biden-Harris Administration in 2021, led to the unnecessary deaths of thirteen brave American troops at Abbey Gate and left untold billions of dollars of high grade military equipment to the Taliban, making it the most well-armed terror organization in the world."

Additionally, 40 retired U.S. ambassadors, 75 retired senior military officers and several hundred officials from previous Republican administrations signed the letter, praising Trump's diplomatic efforts on cease-fire agreements between Turkey and Kurdish fighters in Syria and the Abraham Accords. The letter refers to Trump as a "peacemaker."

"Securing peace is in the greatest tradition of American foreign policy and the Judeo-Christian principles upon which our nation was founded," the letter continues before quoting from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount in the Gospel of Matthew. "Jesus said, ‘blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be sons of God.’ (Matthew 5:9) Such is the legacy of the Trump Administration."

Writing on X, O'Brien said he was "honored" to join his colleagues from the Trump administration in "supporting a return to a ‘peace through strength’ foreign policy under President Trump."

Another signatory, Dr. Jerry Hendrix, former director of the Secretary of the Navy's Advisory Panel, said it "wasn't a hard decision" to attach his name to the letter.

"Trump had 1 of the more successful foreign policy presidencies since the Cold War," Hendrix wrote on X. "He ended sequestration. He invested in the Navy. The Biden-Harris admin has been one foreign policy debacle after another."


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October 03, 2024, 06:44 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I would like for this to be true, but I am skeptical. In this day and time anyone can put a map on twitter with any outcome they like.

Where did the polling data come from?

Exactly! Who is this guy? And where the hell did he get these "polls"? Just him posting stuff like that without anything to back it up is meaningless. And it only lulls folks into a false sense of victory. The only poll that matters is the one at the end of election night.


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October 03, 2024, 07:30 PM
David Lee
quote:
Originally posted by Tooky13:
My favorite video of the day!

Trump Impeachment witness changes mind, says voting for Trump now. The MSMBC host is Gobsmacked!!

https://x.com/nataliegwinters/...ack&utm_medium=email
That was just dandy. MSNBC...hah.
October 03, 2024, 08:22 PM
2BobTanner
Here’s what Real Clear Politics has as their Electoral College Map without toss-up States. It looks like that guy created his own “wish list” map.

https://www.realclearpolling.c...up/electoral-college


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October 04, 2024, 05:58 AM
downtownv
quote:
Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
Here’s what Real Clear Politics has as their Electoral College Map without toss-up States. It looks like that guy created his own “wish list” map.

https://www.realclearpolling.c...up/electoral-college


I'm not buying it.


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October 04, 2024, 06:20 AM
JohnCourage
I have seen 2 maps this morning saying Harris is up. It’s seems pointless to even bother believing the “polling”.


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October 04, 2024, 08:51 AM
bdylan
The polling has the swing states as toss-ups. It could be a nail-biter or all the toss-ups could break for one or the other. It defies reality that the country would elect a socialist lady that truly does behave weirdly, but we do have a broken media. it'll be interesting.
October 04, 2024, 11:47 AM
parabellum
How many times do we have to go over the falsity of polling data?
October 04, 2024, 01:20 PM
slosig
It isn’t even remotely scientific anymore. I mean they used to at least lick their finger then hold it up to see which way the wind was blowing, but these days everyone is just making random stuff up. Go figure…
October 04, 2024, 01:52 PM
nhtagmember
There is only one poll that counts and it’s a month away.

Remember all the ‘polling’ leading up to 2020.

None of them are worth a pinch of coon shit today or tomorrow.
October 04, 2024, 01:54 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Remember all the ‘polling’ leading up to 2020.


Hell, 2016 and "no path to victory" over and over. It's meaningless.


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October 04, 2024, 02:35 PM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
Here’s what Real Clear Politics has as their Electoral College Map without toss-up States. It looks like that guy created his own “wish list” map.
https://www.realclearpolling.c...up/electoral-college


That map shows Trump winning Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona... and I think he will.
But it also tells you where the efforts to steal the election will be focused: Philly, Atlanta, Phoenix.
Michigan and North Carolina are also very close.



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October 04, 2024, 02:40 PM
RichardC
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Originally posted by chellim1:.


Lots of new non-English-speaking residents/voters in town? With shiny new ID and pre-paid debit cards?


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October 04, 2024, 02:50 PM
parabellum
Another excellent and enlightening VDH/GBNews interview.

Buck up there, boys and girls! Forget the polls, ignore the trolls.




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October 04, 2024, 03:13 PM
Rick Lee
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
There is only one poll that counts and it’s a month away.

Remember all the ‘polling’ leading up to 2020.

None of them are worth a pinch of coon shit today or tomorrow.


Good chance that well over half of all votes will be cast well before election day. We don't have election day anymore, we have election season. That's how Fetterman won - huge number of votes already in and counted before he showed his true condition in a debate.
October 04, 2024, 06:07 PM
Lefty Sig
Early voting opens up in my county on Tuesday - exactly one month in advance. I'm going to vote as soon as possible, with my Driver's License because we have Voter I.D.
October 04, 2024, 06:32 PM
ptruck
I just mailed my absentee ballot today. I'm working in South Dakota thru the middle of November.
October 04, 2024, 07:17 PM
Ogie
quote:
Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Early voting opens up in my county on Tuesday - exactly one month in advance. I'm going to vote as soon as possible, with my Driver's License because we have Voter I.D.


Same here.