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The Trump Presidency : Year IV

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September 27, 2024, 06:23 PM
sigfreund
The Trump Presidency : Year IV
A question or few for those who keep saying that DJT should dispense with protection by the Secret Service and hire private security:

What agency would you hire if it were your choice?

Describe the qualifications of their personnel, and how their skills are taught, tested, and maintained.

How are the personnel vetted to ensure they wouldn’t be a threat to the principal themselves? I.e., what sort of background investigations and other measures are used to validate their skills and trustworthiness? Why do we believe that private security personnel would be less likely to be suborned by the evil forces that want to harm the President than US law enforcement officers?

What sort of support from local law enforcement agencies would private, nongovernmental security personnel be able to request?

If a private security company’s personnel establish a perimeter or other no-go areas in public places, what legal authority would they have to prevent me from just walking or driving through to get close to the principal?

What legal authority would the personnel have to possess and carry their weapons of choice anywhere in the country—or the world for that matter? (Actually, even US government personnel sometimes have problems with providing security in some places. I have no idea what the current situation might be, but I recall hearing that years ago Army CID agents were prohibited from carrying handguns chambered for 9mm Parabellum in Italy on protective service details.)

What legal authority would a private business have to block public roads and run vehicles with emergency lights and sirens during movements?

What would be their authority to operate their radios on local law enforcement frequencies—assuming they were able to get local LE support?

What legal authority would private security guards have to be given classified defense information that related to threats to the principal or other relevant matters?

What authority would a private security guard have to shoot at someone pointing what appeared to be a rifle through a fence when the principal wasn’t even visible? What general legal authority would such a guard have to shoot and kill someone who wasn’t threatening him personally—and in every jurisdiction where they might be operating?

I could probably think of more relevant questions if I ponder it further, but those will do for starters.




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September 27, 2024, 07:27 PM
Sig2340
Hire Executive Outcomes from ZA or Triple Canopy here in the US.

Let them sweat the details.





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September 27, 2024, 07:32 PM
vthoky
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
What legal authority would private security guards have to be given classified defense information that related to threats


This is similar to one of the questions I had. "Would the existing .gov play well with a private security team, or make them fight and scrap for every needed detail?"




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September 27, 2024, 08:52 PM
lastmanstanding
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
Hire Executive Outcomes from ZA or Triple Canopy here in the US.

Let them sweat the details.

Yep because what is going on now is working so well. Trump has a security service now that does not seem very interested in keeping him alive.


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September 27, 2024, 09:29 PM
parabellum
Let's move on, please, guys.
September 27, 2024, 09:42 PM
Hamden106
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
I was just thinking the other day about how easy it would be for a motivated person to sit off the end of a runway with an RPG (or SAM). They've tried everything else....

Time for Trump to buy a bus. But not just any bus. A big beautiful bus the likes of which nobody has ever seen!


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One of the books attacked airports was Tucson. And I was flying back to Portland the next day.....
We made it.



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September 28, 2024, 06:01 PM
Balzé Halzé
Just savage.

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September 28, 2024, 07:43 PM
smschulz
^^^ Great line.
September 28, 2024, 10:12 PM
Sacramento Johnson
I wish I was seeing more Trump ads on TV going after the nonsense Harris has been saying in her ads. It seems the only ones right now in my area are Harris ones with all her crap lies about the middle class, building homes, etc.
I tried watching an old TV series recently on Pluto TV; had to turn it off; just couldn't stand every commercial break with a Harris ad.
I realize he's using other media forms, but there is still a sizable part of the population still watching network TV and he needs to be there as well, going after Harris and what the dems have done the last four years.
September 29, 2024, 03:58 AM
downtownv
quote:
Originally posted by Sacramento Johnson:
I tried watching an old TV series recently on Pluto TV; had to turn it off; just couldn't stand every commercial break with a Harris ad.


Those ads are cheap as hell and the viewership is VERY low. She isn't hitting the masses.


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September 29, 2024, 06:16 AM
TRIO
I was using Spotify for music while driving. EVERY damn ad break included one where Harris spewing lie of Trump national tax. At the end, the disclaimer says NOT endorsed by any candidate, but sounds like mumbling when they say who made the ad. It was so annoying.
September 29, 2024, 09:38 AM
corsair
Greenwald continues to do good work showing the disconnect between major media and the public

September 29, 2024, 11:19 AM
parabellum
From time to time, all men ponder the things they would do if they ruled the world and had the power to punish the wicked. This is one of those times for me.

It wouldn't be quick and it wouldn't be easy, but since they crave the limelight so badly, it would be televised.

https://x.com/gatewaypundit/st.../1840411614287110449




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September 29, 2024, 05:05 PM
stickman428
Can you imagine how the left would react if such a thing happened to Obama? The left is collectively reaching dangerous levels of mental illness.


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September 29, 2024, 07:10 PM
parabellum
https://x.com/WesternLensman/s.../1840542431110185450


September 29, 2024, 08:42 PM
12131
Trump does it, and it's "dragging Hurricane Helene into 2024 campaign".

If KK does it, it would be "VP Harris looks to ease the pain and suffering of those affected by Hurricane Helene".


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September 29, 2024, 09:42 PM
old rugged cross
I hope many of you saw the Melania interview on Fox. It was great. Very well done She is a wonderful person. A great first lady. It will be an honor to have her back in the White House as First Lady.



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September 29, 2024, 10:46 PM
Rightwire
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
Trump does it, and it's "dragging Hurricane Helene into 2024 campaign".

If KK does it, it would be "VP Harris looks to ease the pain and suffering of those affected by Hurricane Helene".


I don't watch the news anymore but I checked key news sites and not a single story about how the Biden Administration is rushing aid to these areas.

I found buried deep in one story that Biden may visit if it doesn't hinder efforts. The rest of it seems to be local efforts. I did see a few stories on how Michigan sent resources to assist. I'm sure other states are sending resources as well as typical.


BTW, everyone around Atlanta and Georgia ok?




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September 30, 2024, 10:55 AM
HRK
https://x.com/KarluskaP/status/1840524714801844249


September 30, 2024, 02:30 PM
Sig2340
Brandon Herrera built a LooneyTwooneyTwo SKS, complete with electrical tape scope mount. The results are a surprise.







Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
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