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The Trump Presidency : Year IV
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"I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023
July 17, 2024, 10:40 PM
sjtillSorry, but I'm pretty sure the first was Obama.
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July 17, 2024, 10:43 PM
Johnny 3eaglesquote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure the first was Obama.
Michele?
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July 17, 2024, 10:43 PM
Fenrisquote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure the first was Obama.
Abe Lincoln was a little surprised by this until I explained to him that it was a different kind of beard.
Then he was very surprised.
God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump. July 17, 2024, 10:44 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure the first was Obama.
It says "the first
since".
July 17, 2024, 11:05 PM
TheFrontRangeMy apologies if I’ve missed prior discussion on this point re: the local officers posted inside the building the shooter eventually fired from. There’s reporting that one or more of these officers “observed” Crooks prior to his apparently scaling the building, they took a picture of him, etc.
With the caveat that I am NOT someone with law enforcement experience - did something prevent one or more of the officers from simply confronting Crooks with something along the lines of, “May I help you?”, interviewing him on the spot while the guy was still on the ground / before he “disappeared” (to the rooftop)?
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July 17, 2024, 11:14 PM
wishfull thinkerin the vid on the previous page we get to see MS. USSS 2024 still walking in circles, fiddle farting with her gun, hand on, hand off. she oughta go join a convent or a garage band where she could find herself.
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July 17, 2024, 11:27 PM
Chowserquote:
Originally posted by sdy:
The local sniper team called for backup — alerting the command post that the gunman had a backpack and was walking toward the back of the building.
By the time other local officers responded to the backup request, the gunman had scaled the building, positioning himself above and behind the local snipers inside the building, according to the officer.
ANother failure here, IMO.
Why couldn't the local sniper team go out and intercept him? It's not like they were scheduled to go up to the roof. Pretty sure they'd have handguns with them and not just their sniper rifle.
smh
Not minority enough! July 17, 2024, 11:27 PM
12131quote:
Originally posted by wishfull thinker:
in the vid on the previous page we get to see MS. USSS 2024 still walking in circles, fiddle farting with her gun, hand on, hand off. she oughta go join a convent or a garage band where she could find herself.
That woman looks scared and stressed, even hiding behind the dark glasses. Smdh.
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July 17, 2024, 11:28 PM
RightwireIt's hard for me not to think that this country was 1mm away from potentially falling into a civil war.
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There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. July 18, 2024, 03:27 AM
Sig2340quote:
Originally posted by DrDan:
Why would the USSS Director even show up at the convention of either of the major political parties? They aren't supposed to be partisan, and they aren't field officers, so just what did she think she was going to accomplish by showing up there?
Provoking a response?
She wanted a confrontation so she can become a victim.
The correct response would have been to shun her, Amish style.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
July 18, 2024, 04:50 AM
TRIOThe Director of SS, wanting to go someplace quieter when confronted at the convention is understandable. However, why behind closed doors? She owes the American people a clear explanation.
Being secretive just adds fuel to the conspiracy fires.
July 18, 2024, 06:44 AM
PASigI want this USSS Director gone now more than ever, my God who does this arrogant woman think she is showing up at the RNC like that?
I think it’s inevitable though, each day as we get more information at just what an utter disaster this was, she will be forced out. It’s clear she’s never going to voluntarily resign but she will be told to.
July 18, 2024, 06:52 AM
P226RNIt is infuriating that this is the level of security he was provided. No prior president and current candidate should be given the b team. Heck I wouldn’t even call them that. Perhaps D team is more fitting. I would love to know the backgrounds of the female agents. Were they subway sandwich chefs prior to this assignment? They certainly do not look like they have had any combat experience nor proficiency with firearms. Just picture any of the professional female shooters out there and how they would react if they were in their place. There is visible way one carries themselves when they are a master of their emotions, the situation, and their skill set. I saw no alphas that day and they should all be alphas in that role.
I hope some of them come forward to reveal the facts and orders given that day. Hopefully some of them have enough honor and pride in the job to blow the whistle.
If it won't matter in 5 years don't give it more than 5 minutes.
July 18, 2024, 07:22 AM
chellim1quote:
Originally posted by TRIO:
The Director of SS, wanting to go someplace quieter when confronted at the convention is understandable. However, why behind closed doors? She owes the American people a clear explanation.
Being secretive just adds fuel to the conspiracy fires.
She wasn't there to give the American people a clear explanation. That's the last thing she wants to do. She will be called before Congress and humiliated but she won't provide a clear explanation, or a sincere apology. She may even be allowed to remain in the job through the election. The Biden administration will not accept responsibility for setting the entire world on fire, why should she? She's a friend of Jill...
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I want this USSS Director gone now more than ever, my God who does this arrogant woman think she is showing up at the RNC like that?
As was said above, she was there only to provoke a response. There was no legitimate reason for her to show her face at the RNC.
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-rduckwor July 18, 2024, 07:37 AM
Sig2340quote:
Originally posted by P226RN:
No prior president and current candidate should be given the b team. Heck I wouldn’t even call them that. Perhaps D team is more fitting.
The utter confusion following the shots, much less the gross negligence, if not outright or benign malice, before the shots shows the security detail was not a “team.”
Rather the security detail operated as individual units under no meaningful coordinating command authority with an appropriate span of operational control.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
July 18, 2024, 07:46 AM
P226RN^
Truth!
If it won't matter in 5 years don't give it more than 5 minutes.
July 18, 2024, 08:35 AM
lastmanstandingI think she came to the convention for the purpose of acting like she did nothing wrong and everyone else knows that and that all of this was just coincidence and happenstance. She wanted to gauge the reaction if any. When she got confronted she looked to me like someone who just got caught doing something horrendous and had that deer in the head lights look. What was said behind those closed doors? I guess Bongino was wrong when his source told him she was being told to shut her mouth or she would lose her job. Wouldn't it be something if she turned into the whistle blower!!
And how nice of her to "agree" to appear as per the subpoena. Subpoena usually mean you are summoned by law to appear. Seems in the government you can decide on your own to honor it or not. She does not appear to have the intestinal fortitude to withstand the questioning she is going to be put under. She is not a life long swamp rat who knows how to lie straight faced and can dance around any questioning. She might be able to for a little while but she will break. What she is about to face is something she can't fathom. I'm sure Jill and company are happy to sacrifice her.
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July 18, 2024, 09:00 AM
PASigRe: subpoenas
Democrats have always treated them as “optional”.
Just look at the past 20 years of Dems being subpoenaed
I’m not shocked at all that this arrogant woman has “agreed“ to appear before Congress