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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Biden’s Team Deliberately Kneecapped Trump’s Security To Allow An Assassination Attempt
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https://thefederalist.com/2024...sassination-attempt/

That is some strong language from Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of The Federalist.

Well worth the read.

I'm still sticking to the Swiss Cheese theory, that all the holes aligned....however, as Davis points out, THEY created the conditions where DJT's security team was over-stretched, under-staffed and under-resourced. Allowed the roof to be exposed, security perimeter didn't include this exposed building but questionably had police inside, security staff didn't pursue and question a suspicious person, if there's ever a time to stop n'frisk(!).

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Originally posted by AllenInAR:

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Originally posted by 6guns:

Parents of Would-Be Trump Assassin Called Police Hours Before PA Rally

Reminds me of that kid who shot up his school in Michigan. Difference being Crooks was old enough to buy and store his own firearm, so his parents won't get jammed up with the negligence charges.

But still...if your first thought as a parent when your kid is not where you thought he was is "Oh shit, today is the Trump rally! I'd better call the cops!" I'm wondering what his home life was like.

You missed the reports that the father bought the DPMS alleged AR in 2013.

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Originally posted by corsair:
I'm still sticking to the Swiss Cheese theory, that all the holes aligned....however, as Davis points out, THEY created the conditions where DJT's security team was over-stretched, under-staffed and under-resourced. Allowed the roof to be exposed, security perimeter didn't include this exposed building but questionably had police inside, security staff didn't pursue and question a suspicious person, if there's ever a time to stop n'frisk(!).

If any "conspiracy" theory makes sense, that one does. The lackadaisical approach to security which allowed a random loon to get through is far from the theories surrounding, for example, Oswald, who was supposedly set up to take the fall, while the entity or entities actually responsible remain unidentified and untouched.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Hey if the Feebs ever show up for a visit, just go up on your roof - they’ll never find you.

AND, the slope is too risky to send someone up there.

Hard to conceive of someone in such an important position of responsibility being so inane, out of depth, dimwitted, and irresponsible to say something as (didn’t Tom Cruise once say) “galactically stupid” as Cheadle.

As I said earlier they created the environment of hate and dehumanizing Trump. Maybe they went as far as recruiting this kid I'm not there yet. But they created the environment to motivate someone, anyone to do what they wanted. Orders don't always have to be given to be followed. They made everything possible to happen as it did. They wanted this, hoped for it and allowed it. Cheatle is sweating blood right now. This may be one Congressional hearing worth watching.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by corsair:
I'm still sticking to the Swiss Cheese theory, that all the holes aligned....

If any "conspiracy" theory makes sense, that one does....

Agreed.

I'm not advocating any conspiracy theory but damn this whole thing smells to high heaven. Hard to fathom incompetency this rampant.

What interests me is the call to local PD from the shooters parents. I don’t think this little factoid is getting enough attention and is potentially being downplayed.

I AM a bit of an expert on 911 calls. Things such as suspicious circumstances, missing person and runaway calls and the like.


A 20 year old who lives with their parents heading out for the afternoon is not really a suspicious, unheard of, or unusual event and would not normally result in parents calling the po-po to express concerns. Usually no one is calling until SEVERAL hours or even a day or two have gone by without hearing or being able to locate the wayward offspring unless other factors are at play.

For someone to be concerned enough to call that soon after Ree Tardly Oswald left the house suggests to me there were other concerns such as crazy talk about saving America, killing nazi’s, becoming famous, etc. along with noticing dad’s gun isn’t on the rack anymore or other things that folks in law enforcement refer to as “clues”.


I imagine we will never hear the recording of the call and probably only 50/50 chance of the feebs revealing the content.


If I was a betting man, I think it may contain some sort of intel where parents were ratting Jr out as a potential threat and maybe the coppers should keep an eye out for him. If this is in fact the case, the question becomes when did they have that info and what did they do with it.


Would really like to see the press put pressure on revealing that call info.

Now local LE is saying they informed the SS before the rally that they did not have the resources to secure the building at the ground level with patrol cars and officers.

So was there anyone in the building or not? The idea that there were snipers IN the building maybe on a second floor without any good windows to see out of seems very unlikely.

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Originally posted by 6guns:
So...what will be recovered from his phone?

Nothing found on phone. Still awaiting news on his laptop.

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by 6guns:
So...what will be recovered from his phone?

Nothing found on phone. Still awaiting news on his laptop.

Do you believe that? I don't. After all we've seen, I don't trust.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...ail&utm_medium=email

It keeps getting worse. As the Secret Service stonewalls the media and elected lawmakers regarding the glaring security breaches at Trump’s rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, Fox News is reporting that federal agents knew there was a threat to the former president’s life ten minutes before he took the stage. They still allowed him to proceed with the rally and had identified the shooter an hour before the attack because he was spotted with a rangefinder by authorities. Former President Donald Trump barely escaped an assassination attempt on July 13, where a bullet grazed his right ear, missing a fatal headshot by millimeters.

cont... with video

If funds and resources were tight, they should have enlisted some boys and girls from Scouting America to assist so they could get some community service hours. Ironically, they wouldn't be allowed to carry their pocket knives most likely.

Never know what the FBI might find.
Maybe the kid used Bleach Bit or maybe the laptop is Russian disinformation.
Some might say a 20yrs old with NO Social Media presence what so ever equals already pre-scrubbed. Dunno.
Someone said nothing on the phone, so will have to wait and see I guess.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Now local LE is saying they informed the SS before the rally that they did not have the resources to secure the building at the ground level with patrol cars and officers.

So was there anyone in the building or not? The idea that there were snipers IN the building maybe on a second floor without any good windows to see out of seems very unlikely.

Link/Source? C'mon man...

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Biden’s Team Deliberately Kneecapped Trump’s Security To Allow An Assassination Attempt
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https://thefederalist.com/2024...sassination-attempt/

That is some strong language from Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of The Federalist.

Well worth the read.

I believe his opinion is correct. Biden's DOJ enabled the shooting to happen in multiple ways. What is very questionable, is that Jill Biden just happened to be nearby the same day? What an extremely unusual circumstance.

Peter Navarro killed it at the convention. Wow.

So I've read that at 100 degrees and 50% humidity there was haze or something and I've read the secret service couldn't tell there was a firearm at play under the conditions. If that's true how did they manage to surgically place a shot above the non scoped eye of the shooter? The most exposed part of the shooters face if he was behind the scope.I'm not a conspiracy guy but I'm not the most trusting guy in the world either. There's a lot of weirdness surrounding this whole thing.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Now local LE is saying they informed the SS before the rally that they did not have the resources to secure the building at the ground level with patrol cars and officers.

So was there anyone in the building or not? The idea that there were snipers IN the building maybe on a second floor without any good windows to see out of seems very unlikely.

Link/Source? C'mon man...

Washington Post but paywall. The Hill has it too:

https://thehill.com/homenews/4...curity-gap-building/

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Originally posted by bald1:
Hard to fathom incompetency this rampant.

Worked with or, for the government lately?
It's a massive bureaucracy with many layers of ego and self-importance. That self-importance is largely focused around self-promotion and self-preservation. Don't call negative attention to yourself and make sure you have the 'right' friends, extend yourself beyond those boundaries and your 'career trajectory' will be bumpy.
Consider the departure and evacuation debacle of Afghanistan....nobody resigned in protest and nobody was fired.

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Originally posted by mark60:
So I've read that at 100 degrees and 50% humidity there was haze or something and I've read the secret service couldn't tell there was a firearm at play under the conditions.

Link?
There was at least four counter-sniper teams that we know of...at the range most of them were positioned at, taking the shot wasn't the problem.