Originally posted by 9mm_shooter: People joking about Crooks´ marksmanship do not comprehend the reckoning that would have occurred had it been successful. It would have been ugly.
Nothing to joke about. He was right on target but missed only by the Grace of God that told Trump to turn his head at the last moment.
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July 15, 2024, 07:59 PM
nhracecraft
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Originally posted by 6guns:
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Originally posted by nhtagmember: I’ve not heard of Matt Walsh but he is absolutely correct. There will be no possibly unity with our enemies and the only unity we will have is in rejoicing at their defeat.
He’s also correct I saying that the forces trying to destroy trump did not die with the dead guy on the roof.
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July 15, 2024, 08:04 PM
kkina
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Originally posted by 12131:
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Originally posted by 9mm_shooter: People joking about Crooks´ marksmanship do not comprehend the reckoning that would have occurred had it been successful. It would have been ugly.
Nothing to joke about. He was right on target but missed only by the Grace of God that told Trump to turn his head at the last moment.
He certainly performed dismally when he tried out for his high school rifle team, but it's unknown how much skill he developed being a member of a shooting range for at least a year.
Originally posted by trapper189: That article has no source for the claimed 26 minutes.
Click on the WPXI in the article. But, here:
And, the 1st shot was fired at 6:11:33 PM.
Thank you. I read what was posted and missed the WPXI link. I’m going to bet the WPXI article is wrong about him being spotted on the roof 26 minutes ahead of the shooting and instead the 26 minutes started when he was on the ground and flagged as being suspicious. There’s no way I can believe any of the law enforcement agencies involved in the security could be so incompetent that they let a guy sit on the roof for 26 minutes.
July 15, 2024, 08:07 PM
6guns
^^^ Regardless, he was a person of interest at least that long. Did they lose track of him? Forget to keep a check? As I'm sure many of you are, I'm at my wits end with this incompetence or cover up. How can this happen?
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July 15, 2024, 08:12 PM
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It's hard to fathom just how close this country came to being ripped irrevocably apart. By all rights, Trump should be dead. When I think about what today would look like had that assassin succeeded, I just have to keep thanking God.
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Elon Musk to contribute $45 million a month to pro-Trump Super PAC: Report
Elon Musk plans to contribute about $45 million per month to a new Super PAC that is backing former President Donald Trump's campaign.
The PAC, called America PAC, boasts supporters such as Palantir Technologies co-founder Joe Lonsdale, the Winklevoss twins, former U.S. ambassador to Canada Kelly craft and her husband, Joe Craft, who heads coal producer Alliance Resource Partners, according to a report from the Wall Street Journal.
The PAC, which was founded in June, will focus on registering new voters and encourage early voting and mail-in balloting in swing states, the report notes.
That's 180 millions in the next 4 months.
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July 15, 2024, 08:16 PM
sigfreund
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Originally posted by Jimineer: This photo has been bugging me. Isn’t the bullet trail too flat for being fired from an elevated position 150 yards away?
Over such a short distance no bullet trajectory would show any visible arc of travel.
As for the bullet trace angle appearing close to horizontal despite its having been fired from an elevated position, that assumes the camera angle was horizontal when the picture was taken, but unless the photographer takes great care otherwise some slight tilt is very common. A tilt would be very likely in that situation. In fact if the sign in the picture was mounted horizontally on the podium, the angle of its bottom edge with respect to the edge of the picture shows that the photo was tilted.
Inserting an apparent feature like that into a photo would of course be nothing for ’shop, but there’s nothing about the appearance of the streak that proves it was not genuine.
And to reiterate, managing to get a few bullets close to the intended target when firing multiple shots at high speed says nothing about the shooter’s marksmanship. From a supported position like this killer’s and at a distance of 130 (or as I measured it 160) yards, hitting a man-sized target with an AR even with iron sights would have been ridiculously easy for anyone with the most basic marksmanship skills. In this incident the man who was killed in the bleachers was a long way from the intended target. The fact that the President was hit with one shot is explained far more by chance than shooter skill.
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July 15, 2024, 08:19 PM
steve495
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Originally posted by 12131:
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Originally posted by Sig2340:
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Originally posted by sse: now it's coming out that the cops, SS or both knew the shooter was on the roof for almost 30 min
Source? It’s not that I doubt you, but I’m skeptical of the source. If I’m wrong, HOLY SHIT.
By WILLS ROBINSON FOR DAILYMAIL.COM PUBLISHED: 17:56 EDT, 15 July 2024 | UPDATED: 19:39 EDT, 15 July 2024
Donald Trump's would-be assassin [name removed] was spotted on the roof 26 minutes before he opened fire, a bombshell new report claims. ...
That article CHANGED the WPXI report it references. The original report states he was seen on A roof and not on THE roof. To me, that is a detail that matters. He may have been on a roof somewhere else and then came down, then back up.
Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either.
July 15, 2024, 08:25 PM
oddball
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Originally posted by 12131:
That's 180 millions in the next 4 months.
On Fox tonight, they stated that the money is to be earmarked for ballot integrity, to go toe-to-toe with the Dems ballot schemes.
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July 15, 2024, 08:25 PM
Jimineer
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Originally posted by sigfreund:
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Originally posted by Jimineer: This photo has been bugging me. Isn’t the bullet trail too flat for being fired from an elevated position 150 yards away?
Over such a short distance no bullet trajectory would show any visible arc of travel.
As for the bullet trace angle appearing close to horizontal despite its having been fired from an elevated position, that assumes the camera angle was horizontal when the picture was taken, but unless the photographer takes great care otherwise some slight tilt is very common. A tilt would be very likely in that situation. In fact if the sign in the picture was mounted horizontally on the podium, the angle of its bottom edge with respect to the edge of the picture shows that the photo was tilted.
Inserting an apparent feature like that into a photo would of course be nothing for ’shop, but there’s nothing about the appearance of the streak that proves it was not genuine.
Thanks for that perspective. It’s just been in the back of my mind as a little off.
July 15, 2024, 08:26 PM
kimber1911
A local police counter-sniper team was stationed INSIDE the building when Thomas Crooks climbed onto the roof, and fired on President Trump.
The building — the AGR International Inc. factory in Butler, Pennsylvania — was being used by local police as a “watch post” for snipers to scan for threats as Trump spoke onstage, just 130 yards away.
Law Enforcement was inside as Crooks was positioning atop them, aiming - preparing to take out a U.S. Presidential candidate.
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July 15, 2024, 08:28 PM
fischtown7
Of course they were inside, that's where the AC and the donuts were.
July 15, 2024, 08:30 PM
Cookster
This short article is from The Conservative Treehouse. . .
. . .and does address what has already been discussed here about the shooter being observed and reported by citizens getting onto the rooftop, but it also includes a picture of the "Secret Service Security Bubble" which I have not seen before, which includes a triangle shape USSS 'exclusion' zone of the shooter's position, as well as the water-tower (being outside of their security perimeter altogether).
If what is presented in this drawing is authentic, it is inexcusable and unimaginable of course how these areas were not covered by USSS.
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July 15, 2024, 08:30 PM
nhtagmember
just turned on the RNC - NewsX needs to get rid of Greta - holy shit - listening to her is like listening to nails on a chalkboard
July 15, 2024, 08:37 PM
djinco
The PBS News coverage is clearly left leaning. Of course we already new that, so it's no great revelation.
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July 15, 2024, 08:39 PM
6guns
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Originally posted by Cookster: This short article is from The Conservative Treehouse. . .
. . .and does address what has already been discussed here about the shooter being observed and reported by citizens getting onto the rooftop, but it also includes a picture of the "Secret Service Security Bubble" which I have not seen before, which includes a triangle shape USSS 'exclusion' zone of the shooter's position, as well as the water-tower (being outside of their security perimeter altogether).
If what is presented in this drawing is authentic, it is inexcusable and unimaginable of course how these areas were not covered by USSS.
So, why was that building clearly not in the SS "security bubble"? By that drawing, it's oddly out of the perimeter.
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July 15, 2024, 08:46 PM
sse
i read the report of the timeline on X in a few different places, figured this could be another one of those "far fetched" scenarios that turn out to factual