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Instant quagmire unless the invading force kills everything that moves. How does an invading force feed and transport itself let alone the 7,000,000 locals in the SF Bay Area? The grocery store is empty within a day. The gas stations are dry within a day. The roads are gridlocked. They might hold the urban center in SF, Oakland, and San Jose. So what? Nothing useful for their needs is produced there. Food comes on trucks that don't have gas over roads that are impassible. There are 7,000,000 hungry, scared, and cranky people. Take the 3% figure tossed around for a resistance and that's 210,000 people ready and willing to take up the fight. How many troops did the invaders manage to get on the ground? While the Berkeley, Oakland, and SF political machines might be welcoming there's going to be a lot of incoming fire. Now get the logistics sorted, good luck with that, and get out into the suburbs and the open country where the real fun starts. If the U.S. failed and an occupying force showed up to save the day they might stand a chance with whomever survived whatever befell us. What are the real chances of something only taking out the U.S. while leaving our infrastructure workable for some outside force? | |||
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Hell, I know a whole bunch of guys that would shoot everything they could get a bead on just so they could collect the armament for war trophies. Like BigSwede said, We Good Regards, Kent j You can learn something from everyone you meet, If nothing else you can learn you don't want to be like them It's only racist to those who want it to be. It's a magazine, clips are for potato chips and hair | |||
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An invading army is bringing air support and massive land assets, trained, well equipped infantry, tanks, armored vehicles, artillery, mortars, and much more. While the invader might face heavy opposition, our civilian militia is going to be armed with little more than AR-15's and handguns and will sustain massive casualties. Look at what we did in the middle east, where almost everybody had AK-47s, and RPG's and other heavy weapons were common. Go look on the internet and you'll find video after video of Apache helicopters putting 30 mm blast fragmentation cannon rounds and Hellfire missiles into any group of "military aged males" milling about while carrying weapons. Not to mention aircraft dropping 500, 1000 and 2000 lb bombs. Yes, the Taliban and other enemies inflicted serious casualties on US forces, but we did inflict far more massive casualties in return. We would be on the receiving end of that kind of close air support, should and invader decide to take us on. It gets worse if an invader decides to engage in mass slaughter as a means of quelling our will to resist: carpet bombing cities, nuking every military base in the country, deploying nerve gas or bio-warfare anywhere pockets of resistance are found, etc. It would not be pretty. | |||
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while I agree with you - it wouldn't take that many to completely derail an invasion even 15-20 well-trained hard-core small units per state - 10 men each or so - could have a MAJOR impact on the success of an invasion especially when you match them up against the rear echelon of the invaders and the more ruthless the invader becomes - the more the populace would be inclined to resist even if just in providing 'aid and comfort' there is a lot written about this in various forms over the years - resistance movements during the Civil War, WW2, etc... plus the geography eventually just becomes too much. we didn't easily invade - much less 'contain' - Iraq (a much smaller nation) with a couple hundred thousand and a gross overmatch of technology -- years and years of quagmire even taking nukes out of the equation - no other nation would ever have that kind of advantage over the US ---------------------------------------- Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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My state would welcome the Commie bastards with open arms. The Governor and the people of NY are dying, praying and wishing for straight out Communism. | |||
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Having spent some time on the SAC alert ramp, guarding nuke loaded B52s, It would transpire like this: Nuke strikes on major cities, military bases and our electrical grid. EMP strikes to further damage our infrastructure. We would of course respond, but our enemies would be fine with large losses of life in order to prevail. With widespread electrical power gone for several days (long enough to exhaust the fuel in emergency generators) there will chaos and a lot of folks will turn on each other. Then possibly some sort of land invasion. Which may trigger our remaining military to resort to nuke strikes on our own soil. Can we survive such a scenario as a country and free people? Maybe, but it would be a long, hard and bloody struggle. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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I think the local and state police would arrest anyone who fought back. I wish I were joking. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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Shoot them too. Foreign and domestic, right? | |||
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Monroe county perhaps. Infested with NY parasites. The Lehigh Valley and PA Dutch Country, the majority of the people there will never cotton to that invader shit. | |||
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This is Utah. Our women will have them field dressed before lunch. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Ok, no one has said it yet. WOLVERINES!!!!!!! I suspect many may not have the stomach for actual battle, I like to think that there are many who would fight. In rural Ohio, there are many places to hide for a long, long time. When the food and water run low, I suspect you will find people more willing to fight. Niech Zyje P-220 Steve | |||
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For the most of my State I think pretty dang good. ----------------------------- Always carry. Never tell. | |||
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According to the Washington Post, there are more than 393 million civilian-owned firearms in the United States, or enough for every man, woman, and child to own one and still have 67 million guns left over. Let's say 5 million civilians are willing to fight. Even with heavy air support, you can't kill us all. Shoot fade into the background. Over and over. Plus two million active and reserve military will be fighting. 7 million people looking to kill you. It's just a question of time before they go back where they came from. | |||
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But you forgot to mention one important part....the Taliban now hold several major areas and the Afgan .gov is trying to make a deal with them. I live in Texas....they would bypass us and drop tac nukes..... Where I a from in PA (NW) it would be hell on any attacking force terrain and people wise....I can't even imagine WVA, eastern KY and TN. They would isolate and bypass and drop major ordinance....at least that's what I would do. But... I would hope that people would be smart enough to not try and engage conventional forces conventionally ......if you study the history of LIC you see that many are successful...locally at least...until the attacking force goes all Eichmann on their ass. While fun mental masturbation...we will only be brought down by our own people | |||
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since 9/11 we have more battle hardened civilians than anytime in our history we would kick assThis message has been edited. Last edited by: side_shot, "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin, 1759-- Special Edition - Reverse TT 229ST.Sig Logo'd CTC Grips., Bedair guide rod | |||
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We would bus them to Mexico where they could enter my state unobstructed and have political support. | |||
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I live in Minnesota, we already have been invaded(little Mogadishu)! Thank god I am on the northern border where our small town can hold their own if some RED DAWN stuff happened. Sigs P-220, P-226 9mm, & P-230SL (CCW) | |||
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Tucson and Phoenix would welcome them with open arms and offer them 'sanctuary' [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Well, we have Ft. Bragg, Home of the 82nd AB and Camp Lejuene, Home of Expeditionary Force. I think we're good. ========================================== Just my 2¢ ____________________________ Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right ♫♫♫ | |||
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Between all of the hunters and shooters in most of Michigan and the boyz in the hood, I'm guessing Red Dawn wouldn't last long. Ironic since the most recent version of Red Dawn had scenes filmed in Royal Oak and Clawson Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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