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My theory about bread knives
November 11, 2019, 12:17 PM
Pipe SmokerMy theory about bread knives
I have this Japanese Tojiro bread knife:
www.amazon.com/dp/B001TPA816/r..._api_i_65zYDb7HGP6Z8It’s
very sharp, and less prone to scattering crumbs than my old Chicago Cutlery bread knife – perhaps because its serrations are more finely pitched.
Tojiro also offers this considerably more expensive bread knife:
www.amazon.com/dp/B004LVIO3O/r..._api_i_k8zYDbD7256QFBut I’m thinking that my knife is the better of the two. Why? Because its blade is narrower. Part of the drag when cutting bread comes from the knife edge of course. But additional drag comes from the friction of the blade surface against the bread, and a narrower blade has less surface. Comments?
BTW – I also prefer the less pointy end of my knife.
Serious about crackers. November 11, 2019, 12:26 PM
Hamden106Gud cut bread make gud sammich. Me hungry
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November 11, 2019, 12:30 PM
PASigMy favorite knife for bread and many, many other things has been this one for 20+ years now:
Victorinox Fibrox:
November 11, 2019, 01:26 PM
GeorgeairI've got one that came with Henckel set 20 years ago. Every time I'm tempted to replace I touch up the edge and it's good to go again!
It is pretty thin. I can't find the one that I'd see reviewed a few years ago and had saved to my wishlist. I looked a lot like the Vict. above tho, in profile and width.
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November 11, 2019, 01:31 PM
pbslingerI have a couple of Henckels kitchen knives that are magically thin. One was made 35 years ago, assuredly before automation made products more uniform. It is thinner than other knives I've seen of the same model, and is also more delicate. It is the most used knife in a rack of choices, much due to the way the thin blade glides through cuts.
I'm in agreement that thin blades cut better.
An observation about bread knives, they often are single ground or ground only on one side to create the edge. This is a less expensive way to form a cutting edge, but makes the knife tend to slice at an angle instead of straight through bread.
November 11, 2019, 01:39 PM
frayedendsI don’t know much about Tojiro bread knives. But their other knives are awesome for the price. The DP Series is really good. I get them at chefknivestogo.com
These go to eleven.
November 11, 2019, 01:49 PM
chessiedog1Here is the best bread knife ever for good homemade Italian bread. Sharpe, thin blade and offset, so you don't hit your knuckles
https://www.cutleryandmore.com...t-bread-knife-p18600
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November 11, 2019, 01:54 PM
KLGUY https://www.guede-messer.com/g...messer-32cm/a-32080/It‘s what men cut their bread with.
12.5 inch blade length
November 11, 2019, 02:25 PM
Rey HRHTheoretically, how broad the knife is has little to do with friction. The actual friction comes from the bevel as it’s spreading the bread apart after the cutting edge.
I would think you want a thin knife (to minimize the spreading. A narrow bevel to minimize the friction and a rounded bevel rather than a flat bevel. All other things being the same of course including the sharpness of the cutting edge.
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November 11, 2019, 02:35 PM
bald1Mine is the Wusthof Gourmet Crust Buster Model 4517-26 which is a standard at Culinary schools in the US.
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November 11, 2019, 02:55 PM
Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by chessiedog1:
Here is the best bread knife ever for good homemade Italian bread. Sharpe, thin blade and offset, so you don't hit your knuckles
https://www.cutleryandmore.com...t-bread-knife-p18600
I kind of like the offset blade. OTOH, I always cut bread on a fairly thick cutting board, so the handle of my knife is above my counter even though its blade isn’t offset. Also, I see no reason for a sharp point on a bread knife.
Serious about crackers. November 11, 2019, 03:00 PM
jimmy123xI have a Wusthoff Classic bread knife and it is sharper than hell and works great. It's the only knife I cut myself with and MAN did it hurt and I didn't even feel it until after the fact.
November 11, 2019, 03:22 PM
TonydecI use a Zwilling Henckels, similar in blade profile to the first Tojiro shown above. My wife will not use it, she's scared of it. I love it, nice clean cuts, even on soft bread without crushing it or creating a bunch of crumbs.
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November 11, 2019, 05:49 PM
P210quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
My favorite knife for bread and many, many other things has been this one for 20+ years now:
Victorinox Fibrox:
Same here. A professional chef recommended it a long time ago when I was looking at some pricier offerings and I’m glad I took his advice.
November 11, 2019, 06:01 PM
straightshooter1Well, heck! I still use my 40+ year old Chicago Cutlery (like Pine Smoker mentioned in the OP) and it is sharp, cuts bread without making a mess and I am pretty sure it was a lot cheaper than the knives you guys are using.
Serrated blade cuts are always, IME, more painful than a regular blade, Jimmy. I expect it's the serrations that tear or cut more than a regular blade.
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November 11, 2019, 10:56 PM
bushpilotLike straightshooter I have had a Chicago bread knife for about 35 years. Any suggestions how to sharpen it? Seems the Princess misused it to cut something else.
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November 12, 2019, 07:46 AM
dewhorsequote:
Originally posted by P210:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
My favorite knife for bread and many, many other things has been this one for 20+ years now:
Victorinox Fibrox:
Same here. A professional chef recommended it a long time ago when I was looking at some pricier offerings and I’m glad I took his advice.
I have the same but with the offset handle....it works better IMHO
https://www.amazon.com/Victori...id=1573566349&sr=8-8November 12, 2019, 07:51 AM
dewhorsequote:
Originally posted by bushpilot:
Like straightshooter I have had a Chicago bread knife for about 35 years. Any suggestions how to sharpen it? Seems the Princess misused it to cut something else.
I use my sharpening sticks to sharpen the individual serrations like you wold for a spyderco
November 12, 2019, 09:25 AM
83v45magnaquote:
Originally posted by P210:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
My favorite knife for bread and many, many other things has been this one for 20+ years now:
Victorinox Fibrox:
Same here. A professional chef recommended it a long time ago when I was looking at some pricier offerings and I’m glad I took his advice.
Me too. Extremely versatile beyond bread as well. It was $22 on Amazon 10 years ago.
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Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by bushpilot:
Like straightshooter I have had a Chicago bread knife for about 35 years. Any suggestions how to sharpen it? Seems the Princess misused it to cut something else.
Sorry for your misfortune! If my Tojiro had suffered that, I don’t think that I’d be able to restore it to a sharp-as-new condition.
I don’t think that bread will dull a properly-used bread knife in any reasonable time period. It can be dulled if you let its serrated edge touch the cutting board, but I don’t let that happen. After cutting most of the way through a loaf of bread, I use only the non-serrated end of the knife to complete the cut. I never let the serrated portion of the knife edge touch the cutting board.
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