We have a car with the I6 B58 and ZF8HP transmission. Wife loves it, not too tough on maintenance either. I probably wont tow over 5k in what ever truck i buy. I'm really leaning towards the Ram with the Hurricane and 8spd in a year or two. We never had Dodge products in our family ever. They have stepped up their game.

It appears the Hurricane architecture is pretty sound, more so than the V8. It's the sub components like switches, sensors, water pump, thermostat, etc which are causing some problems, and most of those came over from existing engines. Time will tell but my hunch as they correct the little stuff overall reliability will improve each year.

This dealership sells the most Hurricanes in the country and has a breakdown on the reliability. Keep in mind one of them works for the dealer. Either way it seems like the biggest issues were the first ones which seem to have been fixed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PP3_13dNlBo&t=204s

I pick mine up tomorrow; will post pictures, details and first impressions.

How'd they come up with that name? The Hurricane is/was always to me a Willis F4 134 in-line 4 banger that was swappable with the Ford 9N 4 cyl tractor engines.

We had a 2025 1500 Limited with HO motor.

Pro’s: super smooth, plenty of power, BMW-like drivetrain (turbo inline six with ZF 8sp) and responsive.

Cons: HO takes Premium gas. Never feels “fast” though that’s because there’s no drama and it’s smooth (I’m also jaded because I have an EV)

I’d get whatever trim and option package you want with the SO option. It’s not markedly slower and the cost savings and 87 Oct matter more than the benefits of the HO. SO also has a higher tow rating than the HO if that’s a factor.

I only have 300 miles on the Hurricane Ram, but love it - it has a lot more power than my 2014 with the 5.7 Hemi. Not quite as smooth as the B58 3.0 liter in our X3, but close. We'll see how it holds up; yesterday it got a set of Nokian snow tires so I'm ready for winter.

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How's that nice black Ram doing? I saw where Toyota has increased their engine recall to even later build date Tundras. They need to bring back their 5.7v8 IMO.

https://youtu.be/LAXcApH0IF4?si=gYmF3jAviuc4RBQe

Most of the new trucks have problems of one kind or another. Do searches online and you will find the issue with this engine if what has been posted already is not enough.

I haven't owned one but I've driven a couple of the Wagoner's with the I6 and they're monsters. It's absurd that something the size of a city apartment could be so fast. It doesn't have the soundtrack of the V8 but in every other metric it blows them out of the water.

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Originally posted by MRBTX:
2 time Tundra owner. Hate to say it, but Toyota probably won't be my next pickup. If you own a new(ish) Ram with the TT Hurricane, I'd like to hear your experience. Electronics, batteries, thermostats, towing etc.

This thread has turned into quite the debate about trucks and towing, but I only see a quick comment about not towing over 5k lbs with it.

Is towing something you would do often, or just occasionally? Even if it isn’t occasional, the inline six cylinder engines have a lot of torque just by design. I have no issues with a turbocharged engine. It’s not adding some crazy level of complexity. I’ve had many turbocharged vehicles, and never a problem with the turbos. We are the only country that hasn’t really used turbos. Europe, Asia, pretty much everywhere has been using turbos since the 80’s and 90’s. They just haven’t been offering them here because everyone is so hung ho for big displacement.

In my opinion, forced induction is the way to go. Every turbocharged vehicle I have owned was a damn powerhouse. Torque monsters and fast as well. The technology in turbo design nowadays is pretty awesome. Those turbos are twin scroll. That means the up-pipe has been divided into two. Long and short is that the divided up-pipe uses a narrow channel and a wider channel. The narrow channel allows the turbo to spool up at low RPM and the wider side allows it to stay spooled up as RPM increases. What you get is a wide power band with no significant turbo lag.

I would prefer a turbocharged engine over a naturally aspirated engine. The performance model of the Ram with 540 HP and 521 lb/ft of torque is pretty awesome. They essentially tuned the engine in house and are offering a 10 year 100k warranty on it. Easy choice as far as I’m concerned.

***ETA*** Yes, a turbocharged engine will require high octane fuel. A lot of people don’t know this, but the higher the octane, the harder the fuel is to burn. The reason for this is that a turbocharged engine has much higher compression when accelerating and those turbos are forcing air into the engine. This would cause “detonation” with lower octane fuel. Detonation is where the fuel and air spontaneously combust due to the pressure in the cylinder. If this is happening on the upstroke of the piston, prior to the spark plug firing, and prior to top dead center, this can cause serious issues with the engine. People will run lower octane fuel, and the knock sensor in the engine will detect that and retard the timing to stop the “detonation”, causing power and fuel mileage to suffer.

So if you have a forced induction engine, just use premium. It may cost slightly more, but you’ll reap far better rewards if power and fuel mileage if you just use premium.

All fun and games until they grenade, either by blowing oil into the intake (this will cause a diesel to "run away"), or blowing chunks down the intake (destroys the rest of the engine), or simply stop working (the impeller seizes or freewheels), or the engine is not beefed up to handle the extra compression. Yes, this can be largely avoided by proper engineering/design and maintenance, none of this 10K oil change business. I'm going to avoid being the beta tester for as long as possible.

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Originally posted by egregore:
All fun and games until they grenade, either by blowing oil into the intake (this will cause a diesel to "run away"), or blowing chunks down the intake (destroys the rest of the engine), or simply stop working (the impeller seizes or freewheels), or the engine is not beefed up to handle the extra compression. Yes, this can be largely avoided by proper engineering/design and maintenance, none of this 10K oil change business. I'm going to avoid being the beta tester for as long as possible.

I did the 10k on my Mercedes [turbo 4], but on my Expedition & Fiesta ST it's 7500 OCI.
The Mini [non-turbo] was k ow to use oil, so I did 5k on it.

I had the 2.7TTV6 F150 as well & never had any drivetrain issues with it, but only drove it about 45k miles.

Lucky for this part of TX, 93 octane is 3.199 at Costco.
87 in the Expedition, but 93 in the FiST.

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Originally posted by Beancooker:
People will run lower octane fuel, and the knock sensor in the engine will detect that and retard the timing to stop the “detonation”, causing power and fuel mileage to suffer.

Interesting- I have 7500 miles on mine and get 19mpg with regular. Regular gas went "Down" to $4.19 from $4.59 so I can run premium for the same price I was paying.

I'll try Premium and see if my MPG changes.

2025 3.0L I6 Hurricane SO Twin Turbo

Holy crapoly, $4.19 a gallon? Premium here is $3.09 at Maverick.