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"A new generation supersport with Yamaha's legendary styling combines an advanced CP2 engine with an ultra-thin and lightweight chassis to provide torquey performance on both the track and the street."



https://youtu.be/KNHZgUJU79A
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"The internet might have leaked photos of the new 2022 Yamaha YZF-R7 last week, but we now have official information regarding Yamaha’s new successor to the beloved YZF-R6. As the photos gave away, the YZF-R7 is basically an MT-07 with clothes – but is that such a bad thing?

The departure of the R6 from Yamaha’s lineup has left a huge hole between the R3 and R1, and with the state of supersport sales basically tanking, developing a true 600cc R6 successor really doesn’t make much business sense. Especially not when Yamaha’s own 689cc CP2 parallel-Twin fills the middleweight gap nicely and has been a popular engine since its inception in the FZ/MT-07. Better still, using an existing platform means Yamaha can keep costs down.

Enter the YZF-R7. We can now confirm that this is primarily an MT-07 with a few modifications for R7 use. The most obvious, at least from a performance aspect, is the 41mm KYB inverted fork and dedicated spring and valving settings. Keeping it in the chassis is a forged aluminum bottom triple clamp, while a cast piece is used on top. The new fork also means new brakes, as four-pot radial calipers are a big improvement over the MT-07’s axial pieces. Interestingly, the 298mm discs are the same between R7 and MT-07. However, a radial master cylinder for the R7 should give better braking feel and power.

Full bodywork is the other obvious difference here, with styling closely following that of the R3, R1, and even a little bit of the R6. We’re not sure if the cyclops headlight in the center is a good look, though… Headlight aside, Yamaha says the slim dimensions of the chassis make the bodywork the narrowest yet seen on a Yamaha.

If you’re hoping for big changes in the engine or electronics department, squash those hopes right now. Like the frame, the R7 engine remains the same as the MT-07. We know this because the specific engine tested to get the R7 certified by the EPA was on an MT-07. This is only allowed if the engine is identical. While some might be saddened, let’s not forget what a popular platform the MT is in the MotoAmerica Twins Cup class. Getting every last drop of 80-ish horsepower is a lot more fun than just trying to survive having 200 at your disposal. I think what Yamaha’s trying to tell us here is that it’s not about horsepower after all, and hopefully, with the improved fork, the R7’s handling will make it a sweet street and track toy for both those coming up through the ranks and veterans looking to come down to something much more manageable. "


"The narrow, lightweight frame design has resulted in the slimmest bodywork found in Yamaha’s Supersport lineup and reduces air resistance while incorporating the rider’s body into its design."


https://www.motorcycle.com/man...new-2022-yzf-r7.html
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Specs here: https://www.rushlane.com/2022-...-debut-12402503.html

Wet weight claimed 188kg.

Less bike for more money, or emissions strikes again it looks like.

It's too bad, I was hoping it would be a GSXR750 competitor.

Should do well for Yamaha. I've been wanting a T7 for a while. The CP2 is impressive. Maintenance intervals are exceptional and it is extremely reliable. While this bike isn't for me, there are plenty of youngin's out there that it will appeal to.

I like what Yamaha's done with this bike.

It's weird when people try to justify less hp as better. No it doesn't need 200hp but no one would say 20hp more in the same package is worse.

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Originally posted by 1s1k:
It's weird when people try to justify less hp as better. No it doesn't need 200hp but no one would say 20hp more in the same package is worse.

Yeah. 600cc super sports were the entrance into the full on sport bike class with a price to match. I can remember when the 600cc sport bikes were $6,999-$7,999 while the liters were $10,999-$12,999. Prices have jumped significantly across the board. R1 is now $17,389. All those fancy electronics and IMU with anti-wheelie, anti-speed, lean sensor, selectable traction control....this and that electronic nanny have come with a price, that many just don’t want to pay. That’s a full $5k over what they used to be over the previous generation. They are just doing themselves in price wise. R1M is $26,099 and the R6 (2020) was $12,199. That’s just too expensive for many/most. Too many electronics and IMU, etc. They did it to themselves. 1% maybe put them on a track, and even less than 1% need the kind of competitive edge all the electronic nannies will give you on the track. The marketing of it is more important than anything. And that hasn’t worked either.

I marveled in 2019 when I bought my supercharged waverunner. It was thousands less than a literbike. Much more mass, supercharger on top of the 1.8L engine. Pandemic has helped your local power sports dealer as people have lined up to buy beginner and novice motorcycles. Quads, side by side ATV’s. But once the shops and restaurants are all back up and going 100%. All the consumerism back in place, sales of these will go right back to what they were. Prices have gone up substantially over the years of these things and salaries have not gone up in most fields to match. Not too many years back you could finance a literbike or super sport 600cc for $200 a month. Now that’s $300 + insurance, it’s just priced people out of the market for what they consider a toy. Millennials are interested in yelp reviews (many not all), new i-devices, clothing, etc. Not full on outdoor sports that require perpetual money. Many of them don’t even want to buy a car.

I’m sad to see the R6 go away. I like that Yamaha is trying to be creative in a shrinking and ultra competitive market such as motorcycles.

To me a parallel twin without a turbo or supercharger is not going to be enough. Going from that high revving 600cc 4 cylinder engine that oh by the way makes almost identical power to the first generation R1 to a parallel twin with a little more displacement seems like a move backwards.

I suppose it’s good for the twins class of motorcycle racing.

It’s going to be interesting to see Suzuki’s answer to this bike. Suzuki is apparently in the process of replacing their iconic SV650 with some sort of parallel twin.

Both Yamaha and Suzuki have been rumored to have submitted patents that show forced induction designs on both companies new parallel twin engines. It’s a move that makes sense. It lowers emissions while helping performance. The Euro emission regs and future regs on the horizon are playing a big role in motivating moto manufacturers to consider building turbo or supercharged motorcycles.

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80 HP twin? 750s had 80 in the early 1980s.

It's basically what the Kawasaki Ninja 650 is.

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Going from that high revving 600cc 4 cylinder engine that oh by the way makes almost identical power to the first generation R1

A lot has changed in 20 years, but that is not true. The first generation R1 had 67% more torque than the last gerneration R6.

The price of the current R1 represents a little more than 3% annual inflation over the original. I don’t think it’s priced out of the market, but rather it’s too much bike for most people. There’s just no place to use it except the track.

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Yamaha’s new successor to the beloved YZF-R6

It can be many things but it is not this. THE racing 600 for many years has been the R6. Nothing else has been close in terms of volume and success. This bike won't even be in the same century racing with real R6's. on the street none of this matters. Any decent 250 is fine for that. After that its all what makes you happy. Racing these twins are incredibly fun (I have been racing SV's since 2000) but they are definitely not supersport 600's.

Trapper, you might not like it but it’s true. If a first generation R1 races a brand new R6 it’s going to come down to which rider is better. The bikes are much closer than you would expect. They are nearly identical in horsepower. If both riders weigh the same it’s gonna be a close race. On paper the old R1 makes more torque but I wouldn’t consider that first gen engine to be “torquey” as it’s all midrange and top end power and zero rider aids.

This new R7 isn’t going to give any R1 a run for its money. It’s a move backwards. Japan did the same thing to their amazing 4 cylinder 400cc machines from the 1980’s and 1990’s they watered them down and eventually ruined them.

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I’m sad to see the R6 go away.

Same here as this was my 1st sport bike I bought around 2007 I think.
Did track days outside of Tooele, Utah and had a blast. Loved that bike.