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National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

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May 10, 2018, 03:50 PM
sdy
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ion-connecticut.html

Connecticut is joining a growing alliance of liberal states in a "pact" that would supposedly allow them to change the way presidents are picked -- by allocating each state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote.

The uphill campaign, which if ever brought to fruition would almost certainly face a court challenge, has gained renewed attention amid Democratic grumbling about the Electoral College in the wake of President Trump's 2016 win. While he defeated Hillary Clinton in the electoral vote, he lost the popular vote by 2.9 million ballots.

Enter the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which blue states are joining to commit to allocating their electoral votes to the national popular-vote winner -- regardless of their own state results.

The pact is meant to be a work-around to the constitutional requirements that created the Electoral College system, which awards each state's electors to the winner of that state.

Democratic Gov. Dannel Malloy is expected to sign the legislation into law, following the state Senate approving legislation opting Connecticut into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact on May 5. The state House passed the legislation last month.

“The National Popular Vote Compact will ensure an equal vote for every American citizen, regardless of which state they happen to live in,” Malloy said in a statement.

Other jurisdictions that have joined the pact include California, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and the District of Columbia — all places where Clinton defeated Trump in 2016. Connecticut would be the first state to sign on since 2014, when New York joined.

The plan has been pushed for last several years, and proponents are working to get other states to pass legislation joining the pact. According to the National Popular Vote website, the proposal has passed in at least one house in 11 other states, including Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Maine, Michigan, North Carolina, New Mexico, Nevada, Oklahoma and Oregon.

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So your state's voting results would be nullified by the overall popular vote. No thanks.
May 10, 2018, 04:38 PM
BBMW
I doubt it will ever get enough acceptance to actually kick in. It would require too many states to vote against their own best interests.

But if it did, it would probably withstand any court challenge.
May 10, 2018, 04:39 PM
parabellum
Your candidate lost. Changing the rules won't put Hillary Clinton in office, you perpetually pissing infants.

Grow up
May 10, 2018, 04:42 PM
LS1 GTO
I recommend the states enlist a couple JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL students to perform the research needed to confirm what the Constitution says about this "pact." These students will probably be ale to understand it better than the "pact."






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May 10, 2018, 04:42 PM
JALLEN
Head’s we win, tails, you lose.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
May 10, 2018, 04:44 PM
TMats
Tired of your shit, Dems

2.9 million is less than the margin of registered Democrats over Republicans in California alone. The Founding Fathers may well have been Divinely inspired in the creation of the U.S. Constitution. The whiny losers would do well not to continue to fuck with it.


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despite them
May 10, 2018, 04:58 PM
BamaJeepster
This assault on the Electoral College needs to end.




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU&t=1s



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May 10, 2018, 05:07 PM
lkdr1989
So if President Trump wins the 2020 popular & Electoral vote...then what Roll Eyes




...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

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May 10, 2018, 05:32 PM
Pipe Smoker
President Trump said that if the winner was to be determined by popular vote, rather then electoral college vote, he’d’ve campaigned according.



Serious about crackers.
May 10, 2018, 05:55 PM
BurtonRW
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
I recommend the states enlist a couple JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL students to perform the research needed to confirm what the Constitution says about this "pact." These students will probably be ale to understand it better than the "pact."


I hate to disappoint you, but the Constitution leaves it to the states to determine the method of selecting their electors.

What do you expect the Jr. High kids to find in there, exactly?

It would take an amendment or judicial activism to prevent this scheme.

-Rob




I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888

A=A
May 10, 2018, 05:55 PM
chellim1
Getting rid of the electoral college would be a horrible idea. See the video above.
But the leftist communist Democrats will keep chipping away at it... weakening the resolve of those who don't understand what we are up against.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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May 10, 2018, 05:57 PM
FenderBender
quote:
Originally posted by BurtonRW:
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
I recommend the states enlist a couple JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL students to perform the research needed to confirm what the Constitution says about this "pact." These students will probably be ale to understand it better than the "pact."


I hate to disappoint you, but the Constitution leaves it to the states to determine the method of selecting their electors.

What do you expect the Jr. High kids to find in there, exactly?

It would take an amendment or judicial activism to prevent this scheme.

-Rob


Don't forget your signature line.


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May 10, 2018, 06:00 PM
TigerDore
Isn't this just blue states? The only time this would affect them is when they would be forced to flip to red.



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May 10, 2018, 06:00 PM
RHINOWSO
Of course this would work until a non-(D) won the popular vote.... Big Grin
May 10, 2018, 06:13 PM
Nickelsig229
I'm all for this.

But only if a chipped federally issued citizen Id card is the single requirement to placing a vote and all votes are verified. No ex convicts, illegals or shenanigans.

You pass that law and I'm there.




First In Last Out
May 10, 2018, 06:23 PM
Sigmanic
quote:
Originally posted by lkdr1989:
So if President Trump wins the 2020 popular & Electoral vote...then what Roll Eyes




Why then, this would be grounds for impeachment! You must not pay enough attention to the leftist media or you would know these things. Wink
May 10, 2018, 07:00 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Your candidate lost. Changing the rules won't put Hillary Clinton in office, you perpetually pissing infants.

Grow up


Mic drop, conversation over.



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
May 10, 2018, 07:00 PM
Fenris
So what happens when Chicago's 9th Ward discovers at the last minute just enough votes to but the Commie over the top. Hundreds of times more than their population perhaps, but just enough.

The electoral college, "if the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent." ~Hamilton




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May 10, 2018, 07:07 PM
bobtheelf
quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
President Trump said that if the winner was to be determined by popular vote, rather then electoral college vote, he’d’ve campaigned according.


This. If the popular vote mattered, voting patterns in states like California and New York would be very different, with lots of people voting who just don't bother right now.
May 10, 2018, 07:07 PM
bionic218
<bionic solemnly makes jerking off gesture>

Whatever, crybabies. Keep signing your symbolic bullcrap 'pacts' and whining, when you need us, we'll be over here winning.