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Well, that's some bullshit, that is.

One more reason not to use SMS/MMS and use nothing but fully end-to-end-encrypted apps, such as Signal Private Messenger (my recommendation).



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Posts: 26113 | Location: S.E. Michigan | Registered: January 06, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It looks like it might be aimed at organizations rather than individuals but I could be wrong.

New non-compliance fees on January 1

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New non-compliance fees on January 1 FOLLOW

Ashley White
Updated 3 days ago

What's happening?
Beginning January 1, 2024, T-Mobile is instituting three new fees for non-compliant traffic that result in a Severity-0 violation. A Sev-0, (Severity-0) represents the most harmful violation to consumers and is the highest level of escalation with which a carrier will engage with Bandwidth. This applies across all products (SMS or MMS, Short Code, Toll-Free, and 10DLC) that traverse T-Mobile's network.

The non-compliance fine(s) (USD) will be assessed for every Sev-0 violation issued as follows:

Tier 1: $2,000, for phishing, smishing, and social engineering
Social Engineering refers to the practice of targeting individuals in a way that manipulates individuals to reveal private information like credit card numbers, or social security numbers.
Tier 2: $1,000, for illegal content (included content must be legal in all 50 states and federally)
Illegal content includes, but is not limited to, Cannabis, Marijuana, CBD, Illegal Prescriptions, and Solicitation.
Tier 3: $500, for all other violations including, but not limited to, SHAFT
Please review the T-Mobile Code of Conduct Section 5.2 for a list of all disallowed content
What do I need to know?
If traffic continues to receive Sev-0 violations, carriers maintain the right to suspend a brand and remove access to their platforms, and Bandwidth may block traffic.

What do I need to do?
Ensure that all traffic leaving your network is wanted and compliant.

We recommend you review the following resources to ensure you are following the most up-to-date messaging requirements:

Messaging compliance and best practices
Messaging fraud mitigation practices
Section 5, “Prohibited Campaign Content,” in the T-Mobile Code of Conduct
 
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Originally posted by Paten:
It looks like it might be aimed at organizations rather than individuals but I could be wrong.


Doesn't matter whom it is aimed at, rather that it is aimed at all! It's not their bandwidth if a customer pays for it. Nanny policies like this will end up getting a lot of people killed in the future.


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Posts: 2890 | Location: Lake Anna, VA | Registered: May 07, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I understand that it's still bad policy but I'm just saying it's unlikely you and I have to worry about being fined for inviting friends out for a night of binge drinking.
 
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Instead of fining people, why don't they just terminate their service.

How do they expect to collect their fines?


My one paypal account I use once a year for my xbox live service got hacked somehow recently along with my rarely used ebay account to buy a best buy gift card. I was able to stop everything after that and it took paypal over a week to refund me.

Then they emailed me saying it matched my purchasing activity even though I sent them all the evidence so I promptly closed my bank account and my paypal account. Now I have paypal collections calling which I blocked.

If Tmobile fines my credit card, I can just contest it then close it. It's why I refused to move my tmobile auto pay to my debit card.



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Posts: 8313 | Location: Cleveland, OH | Registered: August 09, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It is possible that the announcement is intended to stop external (outside of T-Mobile) from injecting content into their network.
 
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Yeah, further down that post is some be about $500 fines for some violations that are supposedly contained in their TOS.

I wonder if that applies to other carriers that use their network like Mint...




 
Posts: 11442 | Location: Texas | Registered: January 29, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm thinking this might be aimed at the people who I don't have any relationship with who send me spam texts and phishing calls trying to scam money from me. But it could be used against organizations I might have a connection to like the NRA, the Republican Party or some other political group that employees at T-mobile may not agree with. So obviously they would need to clarify exactly who they are targeting while promising not to interfere with political speech.
 
Posts: 3600 | Location: Tampa, FL | Registered: February 09, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If you look at her original Tweet and accompanying screenshot, you'll see the reference to the SHAFT materials. I believe the H in shaft refers to Hate-Speech.

Whatever that is.




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Posts: 9187 | Location: West Michigan | Registered: April 20, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Cancelation of Service is certainly the most effective option, but that raises the question of what other providers are in the market that are worth moving too?
 
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Legal in all 50 stases plus Federal? So if you text a picture of your NFA items, will you now get fined?



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To clarify a bit: This has nothing to do with you and your buddy exchanging messages about selling him a firearm

It's purely a SMS broadcast sender issue for commercial advertising.

Now, to me that's still a problem, but it's important we know the real deal.


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