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They are not perfect, there are side effects like Myocarditis at around 1:25,000 probability, and they absolutely should NOT be mandated to all, certainly not to children who have almost zero risk of mortality from COVID, or to people that have already recovered from COVID.

I agree with most of what you wrote.
However, the risk of Myocarditis may be higher than around 1:25,000.

Steve Kirsch:
Estimated 1 in 95 boys diagnosed with myocarditis in a California private school
This will blow your mind, I promise. I'm pretty sure that the rate of myocarditis is a LOT more than the CDC is telling people. I think the rate is ~100X higher than they claim. What do you think?

In short, a more “realistic” estimate is 1 in 150.

I didn’t want to use that in my original slide because 1 in 317 was already far from the CDC estimate of 1 in 13,000 which they said was “rare.” If I was more accurate, my work would be more likely to be ignored as ridiculously high. So I went with a very conservative URF=41.

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...in-95-boys-diagnosed

“ COVID-19 booster to be given 3 months after 2nd dose, not 6”

3 months? What more proof do people need that these “vaccines” are horse shit? What an a absolute crock.

follow up on Patricia Cornwall from the airplane incident

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2...ger-on-delta-flight/

A Los Angeles woman is facing a federal assault charge after allegedly hitting and spitting on another passenger on a December 23 Delta flight from Tampa to Atlanta.

The man told an FBI investigator the woman then spit on his face and head area, the court document says.

Patricia Cornwall, 51, made her initial appearance Monday afternoon in federal court in Atlanta. She is accused of “assault by striking, beating, or wounding R.S.M. in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States,” the complaint says.

She was not required to, and did not submit, a plea in court during the initial appearance.

If found guilty of the class A misdemeanor, Cornwall could face up to one year in prison and up to a $100,000 fine.

The criminal complaint says the FBI task force officer interviewed the male passenger by phone and later watched a cellphone video of the incident.

“It corroborates the information that R.S.M. provided. Additionally, the video shows CORNWALL striking R.S.M. in the face,” Rudyard Jarrard, a FBI task force officer based in Atlanta, says in the complaint.

The man said Cornwall was returning from a restroom at the back of Delta Flight 2790 but a flight attendant conducting beverage service blocked the aisle, according to the complaint.

When Cornwall asked the flight attendant to help her find her seat, the flight attendant requested that she find an open seat until beverage service was complete, the complaint says.

“(Cornwall) responded to the flight attendant, ‘What am I Rosa Parks?’” the complaint says.

The male passenger said he “told Cornwall it was an inappropriate comment and that she ‘isn’t black….this isn’t Alabama and this isn’t a bus,’ ” according to the complaint.

The man then purportedly told Cornwall to “sit down Karen,” according to the complaint.

The court document says a verbal back and forth ensued, before Cornwall allegedly hit R.S.M. and caused a visible head injury.

In court, federal Magistrate Judge Christopher Bly set Cornwall’s bond at $20,000 and after an extensive discussion with her attorney, permitted her to return to her home in Los Angeles by plane, if she follows requirements laid out by the judge.

Cornwall won’t be flying on Delta though; her attorney confirmed in court proceedings that Delta placed her on a no-fly list.

The judge also mandated that aside from her flight home, Cornwall is not allowed to travel by any interstate commercial carrier — plane, bus or train — while out on bail.

Cornwall’s attorney confirmed in court that she had been in jail since December 23.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
The mRNA vaccines do work (sort of) as intended but they do not confer complete immunity. As the virus mutates it essentially can "get around" the vaccines, but in doing so becomes less severe. mRNA technology was the only chance at developing a vaccine with any chance of working in the time available. They are not perfect, there are side effects like Myocarditis at around 1:25,000 probability, and they absolutely should NOT be mandated to all, certainly not to children who have almost zero risk of mortality from COVID, or to people that have already recovered from COVID.

I agree with your comments, but one thing you didn't address that I have significant concern over is the long term effects of the mRNA vaccines. There is no data whatsoever at this point that will give us any real insight into an answer to that question. And opinions of 'experts' mean absolutely nothing to me at this point. Given the mRNA vaccines 'are' a completely new approach to virus treatment, we won't know for years what these medications do to the human body.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Craplebee’s

Way to go NYPD

Don’t you have any real crime to be responding to, not a young unvaccinated mother and her kids eating out?

My comments on this board in the past clearly detail my support of police, so take this as a bit of an evolution of that position. My support is not guaranteed and I am having an increasing difficult time defending the police in general when this sort of shit is occurring. There simply is no excuse for this behavior. None. This is not policing. Quite the contrary. And five cops to handle the extremely dangerous crime of a family eating dinner without a vaccine card? I find myself wishing maybe 30 or so patrons in that restaurant would have stood up and run those 'cops' out the front door.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
Don't be surprised if we see vaccine passport requirements for interstate travel in the coming days/weeks/months.

Even if such a thing was not absolutely unenforceable, it's never going to happen. Let's not get silly.

Up until a couple of years ago, I would say yes, it's silly. After the lockstep cooperation I've witnessed from World Governments, Big Business, Big Tech, MSM, Healthcare, etc., I'm not %100 sure.

It seems Senator Lee and Congressman Cawthorn are not so sure either.

Congressman Cawthorn, Senator Lee Introduce Bill Banning Vaccine Requirements for Interstate Travel (These Bills have a zero chance of going anywhere)

https://cawthorn.house.gov/med...vaccine-requirements

October 20, 2021
Press Release
Washington, D.C. — U.S. Congressman Madison Cawthorn (NC-11) introduced the “Let Me Travel America Act,” which would prohibit the Biden administration from mandating that vaccination against COVID-19 be a prerequisite for interstate travel, transportation, or movement. Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) has introduced a companion bill in the Senate.


The Biden Administration has not ruled out vaccination requirements for interstate travel and is continuing to consider the use of vaccine passports. Under the Fourteenth Amendment and the Privileges and Immunities Clause, Americans are ensured the right to freely travel from state to state. There is no precedent for the Federal Government to mandate vaccinations as a prerequisite for domestic travel and there certainly is no authority to do so that has been granted by Congress.


“Vaccine requirements for interstate travel are in direct opposition to the United States Constitution. The Biden Administration continues to flaunt their blatant disregard for the law in pursuit of their left-wing radical agenda. I’m proud to join Senator Mike Lee and introduce this bill in the House of Representatives, and I will keep fighting to prohibit the Biden administration from trampling Americans’ rights and liberties,” said Congressman Madison Cawthorn.


“An interstate travel vaccine mandate would leave individuals marooned in states where they cannot work, cannot go to restaurants, and cannot leave. Businesses already hard-hit by the pandemic in the travel and hospitality sectors would be further strained. This is a common-sense, practical, reasonable bill that would simply provide assurance and protection to millions of Americans whose rights are under attack,” said Senator Mike Lee



Many have noticed the fast-tracking to incorporate a digital driver’s license with coronavirus vaccination cards by a number of states. There seems to be a lot of coordinated planning for this.
This technology would be as enforceable as electronic toll booth payments.

Here are just a few examples.

Mississippi
https://www.mpbonline.org/blog...sippians-next-month/

Arizona and Georgia
https://www.vox.com/recode/225...idemia-id-tsa-phones

Louisiana
https://gov.louisiana.gov/inde...newsroom/detail/3103

Are these DL/VPs an attempt to normalize the need for vaccination passports to conduct everyday activities?
At this point, I can't say. I can say nothing would surprise me anymore short of the Mets winning the World Series.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
They are not "gene therapy" since they do not modify your DNA. People using that term are misusing it either out of ignorance or intent to use sensationalism.
/QUOTE]


Development of COVID-19 vaccines utilizing gene therapy technology

https://academic.oup.com/intim...le/33/10/521/6194108

International Immunology, Volume 33, Issue 10, October 2021, Pages 521–527



COVID-19 Vaccine Candidates Show Gene Therapy is a Viable Strategy

https://asgct.org/research/new...-moderna-nih-vaccine

Two COVID-19 vaccine trials, both of which use messenger RNA (or mRNA) technology to teach the body to fight the virus, have reported efficacy over 90 percent.

These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 (with an update on Nov. 18), demonstrate that gene therapy is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19. Both vaccine candidates use mRNA to program a person's cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus. The fragment then stimulates the immune system to attack if the real virus tries to invade the body.



National Institute of Health

Opportunities and Challenges in the Delivery of mRNA-Based Vaccines

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7076378/

" [6]. Therefore, mRNA-based therapeutics are categorized as gene therapy ."

If I could employ the assistance of the SF Brigade...

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https://twitter.com/danielleae...868182476906507?s=21

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B737_pilot

This will break the lid off this whole plandemic. If you're looking for answers, here they are.


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Chellim1,

I was referencing the numbers I saw that compared the risk of Myocarditis between Moderna and Pfizer. However, I believe those were aggregate numbers and not cut by age and sex, which violates the precept I stated in my response. Everything about COVID and the vaccines is highly dependent on age. Those seeking to minimize reported risk are reporting aggregate numbers, while those seeking to expose risk are reporting the age adjusted numbers. Given the almost complete lack of mortality in school age children, vaccines are not warranted. The risk of myocarditis in young men reinforces this.

I've said before that there is evidence to support the idea that the spike protein ITSELF causes vascular damage in addition to cell damage caused by viral replication. Introducing only the spike protein into your body (without any chance of viral replication) is not as innocuous as was believed by the vaccine developers. At least this may be true in some people that have severe cases of COVID or adverse reactions to the vaccines.

Bigdeal,

Yes I neglected to mention long term effects, which are unknown. In the case of elderly people the benefits of the vaccines outweigh the risk due to the very high COVID mortality at their age, and shortened time for long term effects to occur. Of course, the risk/benefit is unclear for younger people with more years of life ahead of them. I think it is clear that risk/benefit is NOT favorable for school age children.

wcb6092,

Thanks for the correction.

"These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 (with an update on Nov. 18), demonstrate that gene therapy is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19. Both vaccine candidates use mRNA to program a person's cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus. The fragment then stimulates the immune system to attack if the real virus tries to invade the body."

This statement in the link is consistent with how the mRNA vaccines work. The mechanism is vaccine mRNA to tRNA to protein synthesis, but there is no interaction with the cell's DNA. Normally our cells synthesize proteins by unraveling and separation of the DNA strand, copying the sequence into mRNA, then assembling the amino acid chain by sequencing tRNA to the mRNA strand.

That was my point - the term "gene therapy" is being used by some to imply that there is some change to the person's "genes" or their DNA. Such a thing would be incredibly risky with potential for serious side effects. We have heard about "humanized mice" which have had their DNA altered to mimic some human biochemical pathways for more accurate testing of drugs (and of viruses in Wuhan), and that is what some are intending the term to evoke.

I suppose this may be splitting hairs...

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
But we are cancelling 1000's of flights due to flight and cabin crew with positive tests that have to quarantine.

I'm hearing rumors that actually a lot of these people are just using covid as an excuse to get their Christmas and New Year's off. Meaning they're faking a positive test. Hey, who can say? It's the perfect excuse though isn't it?

5 days off from work for the Sniffles? WOO HOOO

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
Up until a couple of years ago, I would say yes, it's silly.

It's not just silly, it's unenforceable and I want you to make an effort to keep stuff like this out of this forum.

Leftysig

India is using a DNA covid vaccine. Full speed ahead damn the consequences.



India’s DNA COVID vaccine is a world first – more are coming

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02385-x

India has approved a new COVID-19 vaccine that uses circular strands of DNA to prime the immune system against the virus SARS-CoV-2. Researchers have welcomed news of the first DNA vaccine for people to receive approval anywhere in the world, and say many other DNA vaccines might soon be hot on its heels.

ZyCoV-D, which is administered into the skin without an injection, has been found to be 67% protective against symptomatic COVID-19 in clinical trials, and will probably start to be administered in India this month. Although the efficacy is not particularly high compared to that of many other COVID-19 vaccines, the fact that it is a DNA vaccine is significant, say researchers.

It is proof of the principle that DNA vaccines work and can help in controlling the pandemic, says Peter Richmond, a paediatric immunologist at the University of Western Australia in Perth. “This is a really important step forward in the fight to defeat COVID-19 globally, because it demonstrates that we have another class of vaccines that we can use.”

Close to a dozen DNA vaccines against COVID-19 are in clinical trials globally, and at least as many again are in earlier stages of development. DNA vaccines are also being developed for many other diseases.

“If DNA vaccines prove to be successful, this is really the future of vaccinology” because they are easy to manufacture, says Shahid Jameel, a virologist at Ashoka University in Sonipat, India.

Fast-tracked development
The urgency of combating COVID-19 has fast-tracked the development of vaccines that use genetic technology, such as messenger RNA and DNA vaccines, says David Weiner, director of the Vaccine & Immunotherapy Center at the Wistar Institute in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

RNA vaccines were quicker to show strong immune responses in clinical trials; they have now been delivered to hundreds of millions of people around the world. But DNA vaccines have a number of benefits, because they are easy to produce and the finished products are more stable than mRNA vaccines, which typically require storage at very low temperatures.

ZyCoV-D was developed by Indian pharmaceutical firm Zydus Cadila, headquartered in Ahmedabad. On 20 August, India’s drug regulator authorized the vaccine for people aged 12 and older. The efficacy figure of 67% came from trials involving more than 28,000 participants, which saw 21 symptomatic cases of COVID-19 in the vaccinated group and 60 among people who received a placebo.

ZyCoV-D contains circular strands of DNA known as plasmids, which encode the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, together with a promoter sequence for turning the gene on. Once the plasmids enter the nuclei of cells, they are converted into mRNA, which travels to the main body of the cell, the cytoplasm, and is translated into the spike protein itself. The body’s immune system then mounts a response against the protein, and produces tailored immune cells that can clear future infections. Plasmids typically degrade within weeks to months, but the immunity remains.

Both DNA and mRNA vaccines have been under development since the 1990s, says Weiner. The challenge for DNA vaccines is that they need to make it all the way to the cell nucleus, unlike mRNA vaccines, which just need to get to the cytoplasm, says Jameel. So, for a long time, DNA vaccines struggled to induce potent immune responses in clinical trials, which is why they had been approved for use as vaccines only in animals, such as horses, until now.

Injection-free vaccine
To solve this problem, ZyCoV-D is deposited under the skin, as opposed to deep in muscle tissue. The area under the skin is rich in immune cells that gobble up foreign objects, such as vaccine particles, and process them. “This helps capture the DNA far more efficiently than in the muscle,” Jameel says. Unusually, the vaccine is delivered using a needle-free device pressed against the skin, which creates a fine, high-pressure stream of fluid that punctures the surface and is less painful than an injection.

But despite being more potent than previous DNA vaccines, ZyCoV-D requires a minimum of three doses to achieve its initial efficacy. This is likely to add to the logistical challenge of administering the vaccine during the current pandemic, says Jameel.

Although ZyCoV-D’s efficacy seems to be lower than the 90% or higher achieved by some mRNA vaccines, the figures are not comparable, says Jameel. The ZyCoV-D trials in India earlier this year were conducted while the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 was the dominant variant in circulation, whereas earlier mRNA vaccine trials were conducted when less transmissible variants were circulating. “The efficacy is essentially against the Delta variant, so that is pretty good,” he says.

Some researchers have criticized a lack of transparency in the approval process, because no late-stage trial results have yet been published. Zydus Cadila says the trial is still under way and it will submit the full analysis for publication shortly. The company says the first doses will start to be administered in India in September and it plans to produce up to 50 million doses by early next year.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
My speculation is she had a few drinks to boost her to +P+Karen.

I think this is very likely.

I'm not a doctor or scientist, but I do have a degree in Biology, minoring in Biochemistry.
Plasmids are how many bacteria exchange genetic code that can confer selective advantages (like resistance to antibiotics).
This DNA vaccine uses plasmids; this seems dangerous to me.

Anyone with more extensive knowledge on this subject please chime in.

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Originally posted by sdy:
follow up on Patricia Cornwall from the airplane incident

Those tits won't save you this time, will they, baby?

Well, the 'ronas has entered the Shaql household! Oh! The horror! Both my kids have it - confirmed today.

Sore throat, sinus congestion, and my son has a mild cough. Son also slept quite a bit on Sunday.

They are both up and about and fine. Cold medicine seems to have managed the symptoms pretty well.

Based on what they have, I probably had it a couple of weeks ago.

Or, we all just have a winter cold (which is what I thought it was) and asymptomatic 'ronas.

It took the virus 2 years to get to us. Happy to still be a pure-blood!

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
Up until a couple of years ago, I would say yes, it's silly.

It's not just silly, it's unenforceable and I want you to make an effort to keep stuff like this out of this forum.

I'll do that Para. I'll stop posting in this thread since it's sometimes hard for me to know when I'm reaching too far.

Well, that would be yet another extreme.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
My speculation is she had a few drinks to boost her to +P+Karen.

I think this is very likely.

Karen went super Karen, never go super Karen. This is in no way taking anything away from her being responsible for her actions, Clearly she's got issues, clearly she broke the law and went full on Karen. No excuse, time to pay the piper.

However, along with Jack Daniels, lets give credit to the real culprits of this type of behavior, and it's becoming common, those who created and perpetuate the environment for these type of actions/reactions. Government, and their willing participants, the Media.

Politicians have used a 24/7 bombardment of how we're going to die, how the virus can only be stopped by mask, shots, quarantines, shelter in place, therefore, laws, rules, corporate fines. They have further exacerbated the problem by encouraging the compliant to directly address those who choose not to participate in the program.

This man and woman probably wouldn't even have interacted if not for the current manufactured environment ever, other than an excuse me or good afternoon. Now a simple action or inaction is a trigger for an unwarranted response, and people have lost the ability to, or feel they are validated for getting involved in, even escalating a situation from where they previously wouldn't consider engagement.

It's happening all over, tossing her in the Federal Pen won't stop it, tossing the politicians, press and and the money behind this bullshit in the pen might...

She needs some jail time and psychological help... but she's not the only one out there that's a ticking time bomb from this psyops war..