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Resisting COVID Tyranny
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The following statement was sent to me and other members of the medical staff at a local hospital in October 2021 by its Executive Committee after approval at a Medical Staff meeting:

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I hope someone signed in the size and style of John Hancock.



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Federal Judge Blocks Vaccine Mandate Nationwide – Protects Health Care Workers Across America

Steven Ertelt | Nov 30, 2021 | 6:53PM | Washington, DC


A federal court has issued a nationwide injunction protecting health care workers across the country from Joe Biden’s COVID vaccine mandate.

Yesterday, in response to a multi-state lawsuit led by Missouri, a federal court barred the Biden administration from enforcing a vaccine mandate for health care workers in 10 states who are employed at federally-funded health care clinics. That means they doctors and nurses can’t be fired for refusing the COVID vaccine despite Biden’s federal mandate requiring them to get it.

Today, a federal court in Louisiana expanded on that ruling and blocked the vaccine mandate nationwide.

The Daily Advertiser reported:

Louisiana Western District U.S. Judge Terry Doughty’s decision follows an identical ruling Monday from Missouri U.S. District Judge Matthew Schelp, but Schelp’s decision only covered 10 states.

Doughty ruled on the lawsuit led by Republican Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry and joined by 13 other states, but Doughty added a nationwide injunction in his ruling.

“If the executive branch is allowed to usurp the power of the legislative branch to make laws, two of the three powers conferred by our Constitution would be in the same hands,” Doughty wrote. “If human nature and history teach anything, it is that civil liberties face grave risks when governments proclaim indefinite states of emergency.”


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Judge Blocks Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Federal Contractors
The ruling applies to three states

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...gm%2F3WFV3d7NuJqeINs

A judge on Tuesday blocked President Joe Biden’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal contractors, finding that Biden likely lacks the authority to force them to get vaccinated.

“This is not a case about whether vaccines are effective. They are. Nor is this a case about whether the government, at some level, and in some circumstances, can require citizens to obtain vaccines. It can,” U.S. District Judge Gregory Van Tatenhove, a George W. Bush nominee, wrote in the 29-page order.

“The question presented here is narrow. Can the president use congressionally delegated authority to manage the federal procurement of goods and services to impose vaccines on the employees of federal contractors and subcontractors? In all likelihood, the answer to that question is no,” he said.

The judge granted a request for a preliminary injunction by the attorneys general of Kentucky, Ohio, and Tennessee.

The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

“This is not about vaccines, it’s about the mandates,” Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost, a Republican, said in a statement. “The judge’s opinion clearly states that and it has been our position all along that the president cannot impose these mandates on the people.”

Biden signed an executive order on Sept. 9 that led several weeks later to the White House requiring contractors force all their workers to get a COVID-19 vaccine unless the worker is entitled to an exception.

Contractors who did not comply with the order, originally set with a Dec. 8 deadline, were poised to lose the government’s business.

The states charged that the vaccine mandate was both illegal and unconstitutional, in part because it was imposed with little regard to “important aspects surrounding the mandate, including but not limited to economic impacts, cost to States, cost to citizens, labor-force and supply-chain disruptions, the current risks of COVID-19, and basic distinctions among workers such as those with natural immunity to COVID-19 and those who work remotely or with limited in-person contacts, among other aspects.”

The government disagreed, arguing that the president does have authority to regulate contractors under the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act because. Courts have ruled the president can pursue “efficient and economic” procurement, which he was in the order, lawyers asserted.

Van Tatenhove sided with the states.

Defendants, he said, failed to point to a single instance when the services act was used “to promulgate such a wide and sweeping public health regulation as mandatory vaccination for all federal contractors and subcontractors.” He also expressed concern that the mandate “intrudes on an area that is traditionally reserved to the States,” citing the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

A preliminary injunction means the mandate is blocked for now in the three states, with the possibility of becoming a permanent block or eventually being allowed to take effect.

A preliminary injunction has already been entered against the Biden administration’s health care worker vaccine mandate and a similar mandate for private businesses.


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Judge Blocks Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Federal Contractors
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/...gm%2F3WFV3d7NuJqeINs

A judge on Tuesday blocked President Joe Biden’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal contractors, finding that Biden likely lacks the authority to force them to get vaccinated.

“This is not a case about whether vaccines are effective. They are. Nor is this a case about whether the government, at some level, and in some circumstances, can require citizens to obtain vaccines. It can,” U.S. District Judge Gregory Van Tatenhove, a George W. Bush nominee, wrote in the 29-page order.

“The question presented here is narrow. Can the president use congressionally delegated authority to manage the federal procurement of goods and services to impose vaccines on the employees of federal contractors and subcontractors? In all likelihood, the answer to that question is no,” he said.

The judge granted a request for a preliminary injunction by the attorneys general of Kentucky, Ohio, and Tennessee.

The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

“This is not about vaccines, it’s about the mandates,” Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost, a Republican, said in a statement. “The judge’s opinion clearly states that and it has been our position all along that the president cannot impose these mandates on the people.”

Biden signed an executive order on Sept. 9 that led several weeks later to the White House requiring contractors force all their workers to get a COVID-19 vaccine unless the worker is entitled to an exception.

Contractors who did not comply with the order, originally set with a Dec. 8 deadline, were poised to lose the government’s business.

The states charged that the vaccine mandate was both illegal and unconstitutional, in part because it was imposed with little regard to “important aspects surrounding the mandate, including but not limited to economic impacts, cost to States, cost to citizens, labor-force and supply-chain disruptions, the current risks of COVID-19, and basic distinctions among workers such as those with natural immunity to COVID-19 and those who work remotely or with limited in-person contacts, among other aspects.”

The government disagreed, arguing that the president does have authority to regulate contractors under the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act because. Courts have ruled the president can pursue “efficient and economic” procurement, which he was in the order, lawyers asserted.

Van Tatenhove sided with the states.

Defendants, he said, failed to point to a single instance when the services act was used “to promulgate such a wide and sweeping public health regulation as mandatory vaccination for all federal contractors and subcontractors.” He also expressed concern that the mandate “intrudes on an area that is traditionally reserved to the States,” citing the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

A preliminary injunction means the mandate is blocked for now in the three states, with the possibility of becoming a permanent block or eventually being allowed to take effect.

A preliminary injunction has already been entered against the Biden administration’s health care worker vaccine mandate and a similar mandate for private businesses.


What a disappointment.

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On The Use Of Fear As A Government Tactic

Perhaps a public debate on governmental lying and manipulation through the purveying of fear is about to begin. God willing, it will.

I raise this hope because of a remarkable article that appeared in the Daily Telegraph (UK). Excerpts follow. No comment seems required, except the obvious: This has been a Global phenomenon. Which means: coordinated.

Use of fear to control behaviour in Covid crisis was ‘totalitarian’, admit scientists

Members of Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour express regret about ‘unethical’ methods

Scientists on a committee that encouraged the use of fear to control people’s behaviour during the Covid pandemic have admitted its work was “unethical” and “totalitarian”.

Members of the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour (SPI-B) expressed regret about the tactics in a new book about the role of psychology in the Government’s Covid-19 response.

SPI-B warned in March last year that ministers needed to increase “the perceived level of personal threat” from Covid-19 because “a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened”.

More at link above.



 
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Both good news posts 12131 and wcb6092. Would enjoy adding my reitteration. That thing on the White House property is not a President, not thee President and will never be. I hope that signed EO letterhead gets wadded in a glob and packed sideways up bidens back side. I have wondered many times, as the country is busy fearing a lil teensy bug of a virus what these people are getting away with and covering up. What ever it takes to keep the people from seeing what they really are.
 
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Federal Judge Blocks Vaccine Mandate Nationwide – Protects Health Care Workers Across America



I also liked that he points out in the ruling that no consideration has been given to natural immunity despite several large studies showing it is more robust and complete than the vaccines, that Delta has escaped the vaccine, and that if the vaccines are so good why are boosters recommended and why didn't CMS include that in their mandate. He also points out that the loss of healthcare workers is likely to be more detrimental to the care of patients in these facilities than the providers refusing the 'vaccine'.

I also relished this quote:

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"If human nature and history teach anything, it is that civil liberties face grave risks when governments proclaim indefinite states of emergency."




 
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“He also points out that the loss of healthcare workers is likely to be more detrimental to the care of patients in these facilities than the providers refusing the 'vaccine'.”

At this point, unvaccinated people are being treated as pariahs. How long until we become invaluable because the virus cannot live in our blood, unlike the vaccinated who are giving it the perfect vessels in which it can mutate continuously? And attack their hosts with impunity?




“Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown
 
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Judge Blocks Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Federal Contractors
The ruling applies to three states

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“The question presented here is narrow. Can the president use congressionally delegated authority to manage the federal procurement of goods and services to impose vaccines on the employees of federal contractors and subcontractors? In all likelihood, the answer to that question is no,” he said.

The judge granted a request for a preliminary injunction by the attorneys general of Kentucky, Ohio, and Tennessee.

What a disappointment.

Mad

I’m confused. What is disappointing? That the judge didn’t make his ruling apply to the whole country?
That it is only a preliminary injunction? What is your disappointment about?
 
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Judge Blocks Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Federal Contractors
The ruling applies to three states

… (snip) …
“The question presented here is narrow. Can the president use congressionally delegated authority to manage the federal procurement of goods and services to impose vaccines on the employees of federal contractors and subcontractors? In all likelihood, the answer to that question is no,” he said.

The judge granted a request for a preliminary injunction by the attorneys general of Kentucky, Ohio, and Tennessee.

What a disappointment.

Mad

I’m confused. What is disappointing? That the judge didn’t make his ruling apply to the whole country?
That it is only a preliminary injunction? What is your disappointment about?


See my bolded text:

“This is not a case about whether vaccines are effective. They are. Nor is this a case about whether the government, at some level, and in some circumstances, can require citizens to obtain vaccines. It can,”
 
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^^^ bcereuss: I was disappointed by that language as well.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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DR. BRADLY BUNDRANT:

COVID is not the flu, and it is not Ebola. These simple facts explain much of the confusion about our government’s response to the pandemic. The ‘superpower’ which this virus has is that it is often highly contagious in people who have no significant symptoms.



Although the vaccines certainly do help to reduce the chance of symptomatic disease, it seems to be less than a 90% reduction. The reduction in severe disease seems to be closer to 90% than to 100%. Vaccination for COVID appears to make it more likely that the person will be completely asymptomatic, if they become infected. However, we know that they will shed just as much virus, but for a slightly shorter period of time.



I remember many times when I told people that after they were fully vaccinated they could be around their 80-year-old relatives without worry or special precautions. I was especially encouraged after the initial reports showed that the mRNA vaccines were 94-95% effective in preventing COVID, and the Moderna vaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe COVID in the trials. I have been disappointed that my experience has taught me differently.



A recent article in the journal Lancet (November 20, 2021), titled “COVID-19: stigmatizing the unvaccinated is not justified,” makes some of these same points. Stigmatization of the unvaccinated might be justified if COVID behaved like the flu; it doesn’t, and to continue to act as if it does is dangerous as well as idiotic.
 
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Ready for a laugh? Fully vaccinated loud mouth Lebron James....tested positive for Covid. Yeah, that vaccine ya been running your jaws about is really workin' great ain't it, Lebron? Douchebag. Link


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Ready for a laugh? Fully vaccinated loud mouth Lebron James....tested positive for Covid. Yeah, that vaccine ya been running your jaws about is really workin' great ain't it, Lebron? Douchebag. Link


It’s ironic. I know quite a few people personally that have gotten Covid, despite being fully vaccinated. I suppose it’s because they aren’t really vaccinated in the traditional sense… just this “new” type of vaccine that doesn’t prevent contracting and spreading that which a vaccine usually keeps from doing such things. It’s almost as if it’s not a vaccination at all. More like a symptom alleviator. Like an aspirin, or cough medicine.




“Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown
 
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Ready for a laugh? Fully vaccinated loud mouth Lebron James....tested positive for Covid. Yeah, that vaccine ya been running your jaws about is really workin' great ain't it, Lebron? Douchebag. Link


It’s ironic. I know quite a few people personally that have gotten Covid, despite being fully vaccinated. I suppose it’s because they aren’t really vaccinated in the traditional sense… just this “new” type of vaccine that doesn’t prevent contracting and spreading that which a vaccine usually keeps from doing such things. It’s almost as if it’s not a vaccination at all. More like a symptom alleviator. Like an aspirin, or cough medicine.
Best (and most accurate) description is that its a half assed 'therapeutic' we have 'zero' clue as to the long term impacts of. But everyone has to be vaccinated because.....??


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Well good news Q, I showed this to my wife last night just after you posted this and thankfully this does apply to here job.

She had summited her religious exemption request but they have not come to any conclusions yet. Her boss who is outstanding was just going out on unpaid leave on the sixth which was their deadline.

Today they got word that everything was put on hold for now but were going through with processing the exemption request.

As has been said this shit is complete horse shit and political crap. They are fucking with peoples lives big time.
 
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Dying COVID-19 Patient Recovers After Court Orders Hospital to Administer Ivermectin

The Epoch Times is reporting an unbelievable but happy story. A dying, older man, placed on a ventilator in a hospital ward, has recovered from COVID-19.

The end of the story is happy, but it is the details that make the story amazing.

Seventy-one-year-old Sun Ng traveled from Hong Kong to the Chicago area in October to celebrate his granddaughter’s birthday. He became ill a few days after entering the United States.

His health deteriorated rapidly, even after being admitted to Edward Hospital in Naperville, Illinois.

When he was “close to death,” Ng was “intubated and placed on a ventilator.” Given his age and the seriousness of his symptoms, a positive outcome was doubtful.

The Epoch Times notes that hospital physicians prescribed remdesivir, but that “it failed to work.”

At this point, Ng’s daughter, Man Kwan Ng, recommended to hospital staff that her father be treated with ivermectin, noting that multiple studies on the use of ivermectin showed positive results.

Hospital staff rejected the suggestion, citing the FDA’s guidance to the contrary and the CDC’s Health advisory warning regarding the use of ivermectin.

Ng’s tenacious daughter took the matter to court. On Nov. 1, Judge Paul M. Fullerton of the Circuit Court of DuPage County ruled in Ng’s favor and ordered the hospital to administer ivermectin to Ng.

The hospital refused to comply.

Frustrated and desperate, Ng returned to court, telling the judge on Nov. 5 that hospital physicians described her father as “basically on his death bed,” noting his odds of survival were, at best, 15 percent.

Again the judge ruled in Ng’s favor and ordered the hospital to “immediately allow … temporary emergency privileges” to Ng’s [new] physician, Dr. Alan Bain, “solely to administer ivermectin to this patient.”

Amazingly, for the next few days, the hospital refused to allow Dr. Bain access to his patient to administer ivermectin. Hospital representatives stated they “couldn’t let Bain in because he was not vaccinated against COVID-19 and their chief medical officer wasn’t available to ‘proctor’ Bain administering ivermectin,” according to the Times report.

Ng’s daughter’s attorney, Kirstin M. Erickson, responded by filing an emergency request to the court on Nov. 8.

After being updated by hospital staff and Ng’s attorney, the judge rebuked hospital representatives and ordered that Dr. Bain be allowed access to Mr. Ng for 15 days to administer ivermectin.

Remarkably, the hospital responded by filing a motion to stay the order.

The court denied that motion and, again, directed the hospital to comply.

Finally, the hospital allowed the doctor to administer ivermectin, and Ng’s grave condition quickly improved. He was discharged from the hospital on Nov. 27.

A happy daughter said, “My father’s recovery is amazing.”

She added: “My father is a tough man. He was working so hard to survive, and of course, with God’s holding hands. He weaned off oxygen about three days after moving out of the ICU. He started oral feeding before hospital discharge. He returned home without carrying a bottle of oxygen and a feeding tube installed to his stomach. He can now stand with a walker at the bedside and practice stepping. After being sedated for a month on a ventilator in ICU, his performance is beyond our expectations. Praise the Lord.”

Ng’s attorney noted that the “happy ending” provides “hope for the nation.”

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Omnicron is one of the Transformers, right?


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