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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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November 25, 2021, 11:40 AM
bigdeal
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
It's not too crazy around here for masks.
It seems to depend where you go - no masks on people outside, very few seen in Home Depot, grocery stores or Costco but a lot of masked shoppers at Kohls.
Around here, the people still wearing masks can be associated with particular groups. Regular, ordinary, folks have pretty much opted out at this point.


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November 25, 2021, 04:28 PM
EZ_B
The Lancet: Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2 delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in the UK: a prospective, longitudinal, cohort study

Background

The SARS-CoV-2 delta (B.1.617.2) variant is highly transmissible and spreading globally, including in populations with high vaccination rates. We aimed to investigate transmission and viral load kinetics in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals with mild delta variant infection in the community.

Methods

Between Sept 13, 2020, and Sept 15, 2021, 602 community contacts (identified via the UK contract-tracing system) of 471 UK COVID-19 index cases were recruited to the Assessment of Transmission and Contagiousness of COVID-19 in Contacts cohort study and contributed 8145 upper respiratory tract samples from daily sampling for up to 20 days. Household and non-household exposed contacts aged 5 years or older were eligible for recruitment if they could provide informed consent and agree to self-swabbing of the upper respiratory tract. We analysed transmission risk by vaccination status for 231 contacts exposed to 162 epidemiologically linked delta variant-infected index cases. We compared viral load trajectories from fully vaccinated individuals with delta infection (n=29) with unvaccinated individuals with delta (n=16), alpha (B.1.1.7; n=39), and pre-alpha (n=49) infections. Primary outcomes for the epidemiological analysis were to assess the secondary attack rate (SAR) in household contacts stratified by contact vaccination status and the index cases’ vaccination status. Primary outcomes for the viral load kinetics analysis were to detect differences in the peak viral load, viral growth rate, and viral decline rate between participants according to SARS-CoV-2 variant and vaccination status.

Findings

The SAR in household contacts exposed to the delta variant was 25% (95% CI 18–33) for fully vaccinated individuals compared with 38% (24–53) in unvaccinated individuals. The median time between second vaccine dose and study recruitment in fully vaccinated contacts was longer for infected individuals (median 101 days [IQR 74–120]) than for uninfected individuals (64 days [32–97], p=0·001). SAR among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (25% [95% CI 15–35] for vaccinated vs 23% [15–31] for unvaccinated). 12 (39%) of 31 infections in fully vaccinated household contacts arose from fully vaccinated epidemiologically linked index cases, further confirmed by genomic and virological analysis in three index case–contact pairs. Although peak viral load did not differ by vaccination status or variant type, it increased modestly with age (difference of 0·39 [95% credible interval –0·03 to 0·79] in peak log10 viral load per mL between those aged 10 years and 50 years). Fully vaccinated individuals with delta variant infection had a faster (posterior probability >0·84) mean rate of viral load decline (0·95 log10 copies per mL per day) than did unvaccinated individuals with pre-alpha (0·69), alpha (0·82), or delta (0·79) variant infections. Within individuals, faster viral load growth was correlated with higher peak viral load (correlation 0·42 [95% credible interval 0·13 to 0·65]) and slower decline (–0·44 [–0·67 to –0·18]).

Interpretation

Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory.

Funding

National Institute for Health Research.

Link
November 25, 2021, 07:38 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by EZ_B:
Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts.

Funding

National Institute for Health Research.
Soooooooooooooooo the justification for vaccination mandates is what exactly? And given the numbers of vaccinated people who have been infected with Covid at this point, the "breakthrough" designation is getting a bit absurd.


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November 26, 2021, 07:30 AM
Ironbutt
Oh, look! Just in time for the Brandon Administration's deadlines for vaccine mandates for businesses, a new variant is discovered in S. Africa. I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the lawsuits against the mandates. And since the administration is pushing for all school aged kids to be vaccinated, it'll be discovered that this variant is especially deadly for kids.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/2...-we-know-so-far.html


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November 26, 2021, 09:27 AM
parabellum
Just exacty who is this insane asshole? Why has Australia in particular lost its mind?

This guy needs to be jailed. Unreal.


November 26, 2021, 09:55 AM
RoboV
The only thing that tyrant is missing is the little black mustache.


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November 26, 2021, 10:15 AM
Graniteguy
That turd has some serious emotional issues.
November 26, 2021, 10:56 AM
gearhounds
Wouldn’t you just love to meet that Australian asshole face to face and taunt him over the vaccines failures? He might actually open the door to a serious ass kicking by putting hands on you. He’s that over the edge.




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November 26, 2021, 11:06 AM
ensigmatic
Perfect example of what happens when unstable personalities get power.



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November 26, 2021, 11:16 AM
Jupiter
Australia is a pretty isolated country and especially difficult for outside observers to see what's going on there.


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November 26, 2021, 11:58 AM
Flash-LB
I was on a plane on a 6 hour and 40 minute flight recently.

Went to the bathroom at about the 4 hour point and noticed the two female Flight Attendants were sitting in their area with no masks on and of the 18 people in my section, 1 had a mask on and 17 had them off.

The Flight Attendants made a big deal of coming around with more drinks every time your drink got close to the bottom and I'm convinced it was so you could keep your mask off.

I think I had the mask on for an hour out of the whole flight and that was typical of everyone in my section according to Mrs. Flash.

People are tired of the whole thing.
November 26, 2021, 12:03 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by gearhounds:
Wouldn’t you just love to meet that Australian asshole face to face and taunt him over the vaccines failures? He might actually open the door to a serious ass kicking by putting hands on you. He’s that over the edge.
Yep, that's the sort of person who brings out the 10 year old in me, and would prompt me to get in his face and taunt the hell out of him until he popped.


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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
November 26, 2021, 12:03 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Sheeple.





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November 26, 2021, 12:08 PM
Jimbo Jones
You want to find a bunch of 'tards in maskes...go to Whole Foods...

quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
It's not too crazy around here for masks.
It seems to depend where you go - no masks on people outside, very few seen in Home Depot, grocery stores or Costco but a lot of masked shoppers at Kohls.
Around here, the people still wearing masks can be associated with particular groups. Regular, ordinary, folks have pretty much opted out at this point.



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November 26, 2021, 01:33 PM
Skins2881
Racist Biden blocking flights from Africa due to new strain.



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November 26, 2021, 01:43 PM
highroundcount
quote:


Yes, they don't have the numbers so lets create them out of thin air. Assholes.


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November 26, 2021, 03:08 PM
Gustofer
quote:

Yes, they have implemented a travel ban on all no-US residents from South Africa.

Now tell me, anyone who can think even remotely logically, why only nonresidents?

If this was really about disease prevention, we'd lock down this country and make it an island. But no, we'll only block some people from coming here. Others, who may or may not be infected, can come on in.

When are we going to say enough?


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November 26, 2021, 03:08 PM
nhracecraft
quote:

Let me guess...Restricting travel from the 'non-Ivermectin' countries in southern Africa, a.k.a. the 'vaccination dependent' countries! What's the likelihood that there's NO threat of the new 'Omicron Variant' in the countries where Ivermectin is in use as an 'essential medicine' as classified by the WHO, CDC, etc... Roll Eyes




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November 26, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jupiter
On Nov. 4th, Bill Gates calls for $1 billion WHO pandemic task force to carry out “germ games”
He discusses a scenario where smallpox is released at 10 airports.
https://youtu.be/Tlx8WTKAgVY




Around 2 weeks later, vials labeled "Smallpox" found in research facility in Pennsylvania.

Headlines carried by major media across the globe on Nov. 17, 2021.


Vials labeled 'smallpox' found at vaccine research facility in Pennsylvania, CDC says

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/16...als-found/index.html

FBI, CDC investigating several vials labeled 'smallpox' found at vaccine research facility

https://www.usatoday.com/story...adelphia/8649685002/

You would think this would be hush-hush until a thorough investigation was conducted. Roll Eyes

Bill Gates has a crystal ball.


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November 26, 2021, 04:34 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
Now tell me, anyone who can think even remotely logically, why only nonresidents?

I was once told, by a customs and immigration officer, that there is no way for them to legally prevent a U.S. citizen from entering the country. They can delay you, but they can't stop you.

That's what I was told, anyway.



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher