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All of us that work for Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Leidos, etc are subject to China Joe's EO though

That is for all the other companies he plans to bludgeon with OSHA "rules", right?

NO.
The point of the above two articles is that all of these woke companies are using this so called EO to willingly go along with China Joe's jawboning. They don't have to. There is no rule issued.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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All of us that work for Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Leidos, etc are subject to China Joe's EO though

That is for all the other companies he plans to bludgeon with OSHA "rules", right?

NO.
The point of the above two articles is that all of these woke companies are using this so called EO to willingly go along with China Joe's jawboning. They don't have to. There is no rule issued.

But you are mixing up two different China Joe mandates:

1. The EO for all companies that are considered "government contractor" like Boeing

2. The mandate that is for all other private US companies with 100 or more employees and it will
be pushed by OSHA

These are two separate things

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1. The EO for all companies that are considered "government contractor" like Boeing

I have read the EO for all government employees. I haven't seen one for private companies that contract with the government.

OK.... there it is:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/bri...federal-contractors/

But... it's not in effect. No guidance issued.

Still, he has no direct authority to do so. He can't cancel the contracts unilaterally with your employer.
Your employer has a choice, and they are going along with this. I'm not saying they won't fire the un-vaxxed, I'm just saying they don't have to. They could fight this but they are using the EO as cover. They can blame it on Biden.

BIDEN: "When you see headlines and reports of mass firings, and hundreds of people losing their jobs, look at the bigger story...United went from 59% of their employees [vaccinated] to 99%..."
https://twitter.com/Breaking91...3A%2F%2Face.mu.nu%2F

Biden was told there would be no math in this math.

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BIDEN: United went from 59% of their employees [vaccinated] to 99%..."

Well, yeah, that's usually what happens when you fire all the unvaccinated employees. You, dickhead.

^^^^^

Page 889

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Thanks. Apparently I didn't check far enough back, tough to keep up. Deleted duplicate info.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
BIDEN: United went from 59% of their employees [vaccinated] to 99%..."

Well, yeah, that's usually what happens when you fire all the unvaccinated employees. You, dickhead.

And THAT is exactly what WE are fighting. The United employees fighting this REALLY need your support and prayers!! Preliminary Injunction that was to be decided on today got pushed to next Wednesday. Thanks!

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^^^
Thanks. Apparently I didn't check far enough back, tough to keep up. Deleted duplicate info.

I doubt anyone minds too much. Probably worth it to keep it up for those like yourself who missed it initially.

Study Concludes Vaccines DO NOT Prevent Covid-19 and May Even ENHANCE Spread

Follow the science, y'all.
https://noqreport.com/2021/10/...even-enhance-spread/

Pushback, at last:

Los Angeles Sheriff Says He Will Not Enforce Vaccine Mandate For His Department

This is an interesting situation because the elected Sheriff is the highest constitutional officer in Los Angeles county. While city/county administrators can attempt to make life miserable for LA Sheriff Alex Villanueva, the dynamic of enforcement is another kettle of fish entirely.

According to CBS local “in early August, the L.A. County Board of Supervisors unanimously ratified an executive order requiring all county employees, regardless of department, to be fully vaccinated by Oct. 1, with exemptions only for medical and religious purposes.”

Additionally a county mandate went into effect midnight Thursday, requiring proof of at least one dose of the vaccine to enter bars, clubs, breweries, and attend events such as concerts, sporting events and theme parks. Proof of full vaccination will take effect Nov. 4, with enforcement mechanisms still not determined.

LA Sheriff Villanueva said in a Facebook live post on Thursday he will not enforce the mandate for his department with roughly 18,000 employees.

https://theconservativetreehou...artment/#more-218159

Pfizer Lobbying Hits Decade High as DOZENS of High-Profile Political Appointees Become Big Pharma Reps.

https://thenationalpulse.com/e...se-lobbying-efforts/

Amidst the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent vaccine rollout, pharmaceutical giants including Pfizer and Moderna have substantially increased their lobbying efforts, a National Pulse investigation has revealed.

The lobbying apparatuses at both vaccine-reliant companies – in terms of the number of lobbyists hired and the overall budget deployed to influence government officials – have seen dramatic increases since 2019.

The news comes one day after hidden camera footage revealed a Pfizer scientist admitting: “Basically, our organization is run on COVID money now.”

Democrat Operatives Turn Vax Lobbyists.
Many of the new Big Pharma hires have come from consulting firms with deep and historical links to the current White House, and President Joe Biden himself.

In October alone Pfizer tapped Sudafi Henry, Joe Biden’s former legislative affairs director from his days as Vice President.

Another recent hire is Kwabena Nsiah, a former staffer for Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Xavier Becerra and top aide to director of the White House Office of Public Engagement.

Nsiah also worked in Congress for over eight years, most recently as Policy Director for the Congressional Black Caucus and on the Joint Economic Committee as a Senior Policy Advisor.

RINOs Turn Vaccine Lobbyists, Too.
Among Pfizer’s robust lobbying team are alumni of Republican presidential administrations and Congressional offices.

Justin McCarthy, who served under George W. Bush as a Special Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs, and Ben Howard, who served as a Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of Legislative Affairs under Donald Trump, both lobby for the pharmaceutical giant.

David Schiappa, a longtime Republican staff member of the Senate holding the role of Secretary for Leader Mitch McConnell, is also lobbying for Pfizer.

Pfizer, which recently received approval for a third booster dose of its COVID-19 vaccine, has substantially increased its lobbying budget. In 2019, the company spent $11,000,000 on lobbying efforts before increasing the total to $13,150,000 – the highest total since 2010.

In 2019, the company retained 77 lobbyists before the total grew to a team of 102 lobbyists in 2020. So far in 2021, Pfizer has declared 92 lobbyists.



While Moderna retained just one lobbyist throughout all of 2019 and added one lobbyist the following year, in 2021, the company has already hired an additional twelve lobbyists, representing a 600 percent increase in the company’s total lobbying force.

In 2019, Moderna spent $40,000 on lobbying and $280,000 in 2020, and just halfway into 2021, the company has already spent $290,000.



The real scandal, however, is represented in the sheer number of political operatives who have recently gone on to work for Big Pharma, from both Democrat and Republican offices.

The National Pulse has assembled a list of those declared by Pfizer and Moderna alone, below. The list includes their previous jobs or affiliations. Of the 83 listed below, many come from high level backgrounds such as the White House, presidential candidates, the Speaker of the House’s office, and a number of congressional offices.

The swamp, revealed:

Pfizer.

Justin McCarthy, Special Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs under President George W. Bush
Brian Arthur Pomper, Chief International Trade Counsel to Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus
Bill Morley, General Counsel to Senator Arlen Specter
Remy Brim, Senior Health Policy Advisor to Senator Elizabeth Warren
Mark Mioduski, Democratic Clerk for the Committee on Appropriations in the U.S. House of Representatives
Brian Griffin, Senior Leadership Advisor and Floor Policy Director for Democratic Policy Committee Chairman Senator Byron Dorgan
Ben Howard, Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of Legislative Affairs under President Donald Trump
Kate Keating, Chief of Staff to Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus Congressman Joseph Crowley
David Schiappa, Secretary to Senate Republican Leaders
Lavita Legrys, Director at the Office of Legislative Affairs in the Department of Homeland Security under President Barack Obama
Mike Mckay, Senior Policy Advisor to Congressman Gregory Meeks
Cristina Antelo, Legal Fellow with the Senate Democratic Steering Committee
Tom Davis, former Congressman
Michael Werner, Policy Advisor to Senate Democrats Policy Committee
Daniel Elling, Staff Director for the House Committee on Ways and Means
Cookab Hashemi, Chief of Staff to Representative Raul Ruiz and Representative Jackie Speier
Robert Holifield, Staff Director of the Senate Agriculture Committee
Hannah Smith, Legislative Correspondent to Senator Blanche Lincoln
Blanche Lincoln, Former Senator and Congresswoman
Colin Roskey, Deputy Assistant Secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services under President Trump
Thomas Scully, Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services under President Bush.
Brian Diffell, Legislative Director to Senator Roy Blunt
Kelli Briggs, Chief of Staff to Representative Pat Tiberi
Anne Wilson, Legislative Director to Representative Anna G. Eshoo
Peter Wallace, Legislative Correspondent to Representative Ric Keller
Katharine Hayes, Legislative Correspondent to Representative Mark Schauer
Akshai Datta, Senior Legislative Assistant to Representative Ami Bera
Darrel Thompson, Deputy Chief of Staff for Intergovernmental and External Affairs to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
Shanti Ochs Stanton, Floor Assistant to the Democratic Leaders Office
Natalie Farr, Chief of Staff to Senator Cory Gardner
Steven Elmendorf, Chief of Staff to House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt
Steven Irizarry, Senior Counsel for Senate Special Committee on Aging
Stephen Northrup, Health Policy Advisor to Senator Michael Enzi
Jennifer Swenson, Deputy Legislative Director to Senator Pat Roberts
Catherine Robinson, Law Clerk on the Committee on Ways and Means
Emily Mueller, Deputy Legislative Director to Senator Pat Roberts
Stephen Claeys, Trade Counsel on the Committee on Ways and Means
Paula Burg, Director and Senior Advisor for Health and Entitlements on the Senate Budget Committee
Elissa Alben, Senior Counsel for International Trade and Competitiveness on the Senate Committee on Finance
Karissa Willhite, Deputy Chief of Staff to Senator Robert Menendez
Gordon Taylor, Chief of Staff to Representative Chris John
Tucker Shumack, Tax and Finance Counsel to Senator Olympia Snowe
Todd Novascone, Chief of Staff to Senator Jerry Moran
Jerome Murray, Chief of Staff to Representative Stacey Plaskett
Moses Mercado, Deputy Chief of Staff to Representative Richard Gephardt
Tim McGivern, Chief of Staff to Senator Jim Brownback
Chris Giblin, Chief of Staff to Representative John Carter
Tony Bullock, Chief of Staff to Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Dee Buchanan, Chief of Staff to House Republican Conference
Dean Aguillen, Advisor to Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Eden Shiferaw, Representative Marcia Fudge
Jane Loewenson, Senior Health Policy Advisor to Democratic Leader Tom Daschle
Andrea LaRue, Counsel to Democratic Leader Tom Daschle
Brady King, Chief of Staff to Congresswoman Kendra S. Horn
Joshua Fay Hurvitz, Legislative Director to Representative Anthony D. Weiner
Lisa German Foster, Senior Policy Advisor to Senator Jack Reed
Irene Bueno, Special Assistant to President Bill Clinton in the Domestic Policy Council and Chief of Staff’s Office
Ashley Gunn, Senior Director of Cabinet Affairs to President Trump
Monica Popp, Chief of Staff to Senate Republican Whip John Cornyn
Hazen Marshall, Policy Director to Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell
Christopher Wilcox, Staff Assistant to Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Marti Thomas, Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs under President Clinton
Karina Lynch, Legislative Director to Representative Scott McInnis
Cheryl Jager, Senior Health Policy Advisor for House Republican Leadership
Matthew Hoekstra, Legislative Director for Senator Ben Lujan
Susan Hirschmann, Chief of Staff to Representative Van Hilleary
Christopher Hatcher, Legislative Director to Representative Scott McInnis
Ann Marie Buerkle, Congresswoman
Shimon Stein, Senior Advisor to House Majority Leader/Republican Whip
Kristi Remington, Deputy Assistant Attorney General at the Department of Justice under President Obama
Malloy McDaniel, Policy Advisor to Senator Mitch McConnell
Craig Kalkut, Chief Counsel of Senate Antitrust Subcommittee
Ashley Davis, Special Assistant to Director of Homeland Security Tom Ridge under President Bush
Greg Nickerson, Tax Counsel to Representative Bill Thomas

Moderna.

Darren Willcox, Assistant to Speaker Dennis Hastert for Health Policy
Erin Strawn, Legislative Associate to Representative Joe Cunningham
Valerie Henry, Senior Policy Advisor to Congressman Greg Walden
James Derderian, Chief of Staff to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce
Carmencita Whonder, Advisor on the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee to Senator Chuck Schumer
Marc Lampkin, General Counsel for the House Republican Conference
Araceli Gutierrez, Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute Graduate Fellow
Emily Felder, Counsel to the House Energy and Commerce Committee
Nadeam Elshami, Chief of Staff to Representative Nancy Pelosi

^^^ That is huge news! Or should be!

A slight but related thread drift.

Smithsonian Channel has an episode on “America’s Hidden Stories” called “Pandemic-1918” about the mis-named Spanish Influenza outbreak. The program was first aired in March 2019. Very interesting and similar to what we’ve all been going through since January 2020.

https://www.smithsonianchannel...hidden-stories/66087

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Originally posted by P250UA5:

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Originally posted by Warhorse:
Two days after receiving the Regeneron covid antibody cocktail, my wife is feeling slightly better. That's a start at least.

Wife & I got it on Saturday afternoon.
Today is the best I've felt in days. Sense of smell gone today, though.
Now, if I could just kick this cough.

My wife appears to be completely over it now, seven days after the infusion treatment, and about fourteen days after first noticing it.

The fact that members of Congress have become lobbyists is nothing new. When Trent Lott made his remarks about Strom Thurmond he lost his job as Senate Majority Leader. So he and another former Senator formed a Big Pharna lobbying firm. The system is wide open for corruption.

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Originally posted by Warhorse:

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Originally posted by P250UA5:

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Originally posted by Warhorse:
Two days after receiving the Regeneron covid antibody cocktail, my wife is feeling slightly better. That's a start at least.

Wife & I got it on Saturday afternoon.
Today is the best I've felt in days. Sense of smell gone today, though.
Now, if I could just kick this cough.

My wife appears to be completely over it now, seven days after the infusion treatment, and about fourteen days after first noticing it.

That is great news!

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Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
A slight but related thread drift.

Smithsonian Channel has an episode on “America’s Hidden Stories” called “Pandemic-1918” about the mis-named Spanish Influenza outbreak. The program was first aired in March 2019. Very interesting and similar to what we’ve all been going through since January 2020.

https://www.smithsonianchannel...hidden-stories/66087

Don't worry the government is right on top of the 1918 flu pandemic. In fact they dug up some bodies in the permafrost of Alaska who died from the Spanish flu, and then reconstructed the virus.

Some government bureaucrats have the keys to a new pandemic.


Reconstruction of the 1918 Influenza Pandemic Virus

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/1918flupandemic.htm

CDC researchers and their colleagues successfully reconstructed the influenza virus that caused the 1918-19 flu pandemic, which killed as many as 50 million people worldwide. A report of their work, “Characterization of the Reconstructed 1918 Spanish Influenza Pandemic,” was published in the October 7, 2005 issue of Science. The work was a collaboration among scientists from CDC, Mount Sinai School of , the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, and Southeast Poultry Research . The following questions and answers describe this important research and related issues.

Note: For a detailed historical summary of this work, including how it was conducted, the people involved, and the lessons learned from it, see The Deadliest Flu: The Complete Story of the Discovery and Reconstruction of the 1918 Pandemic Virus.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandem...tion-1918-virus.html

What are the reasons for doing these experiments?
The influenza pandemic of 1918-19 killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide, many more than the subsequent pandemics of the 20th century. The biological properties that confer virulence to pandemic influenza viruses have not traditionally been well understood and warranted further study. Research to better understand how the individual genes of the1918 pandemic influenza virus contribute to the disease process provide important insights into the basis of virulence. This kind of information has helped health officials to devise appropriate strategies for early diagnosis, treatment, and prevention, should a similar pandemic virus emerge. Additionally, such research informs the development of general principles with which we can better design antiviral drugs and other interventions against all influenza viruses with enhanced virulence.

Is the 1918 influenza virus a select agent?
The Intra-governmental Select Agents and Toxins Technical Advisory Committee convened on September 30, 2005, and recommended that the reconstructed 1918 influenza virus be added to the list of HHS select agents. Following this recommendation, CDC amended its regulations and designated all reconstructed replication competent forms of the 1918 pandemic influenza virus containing any portion of the coding regions of all eight gene segments (reconstructed 1918 Influenza virus) as a select agent.

What is the Select Agent Program?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) regulates the possession, use and transfer of select agents and toxins that have the potential to pose a severe threat to public health and safety. The CDC Select Agent Program oversees these activities and registers all laboratories and other entities in the United States of America that possess, use or transfer a select agent or toxin.

The U.S. Departments of Health and Human Services (HHS) and Agriculture (USDA) published final rules for the possession, use, and transfer of select agents and toxins (42 C.F.R. Part 73, 7 C.F.R. Part 331, and 9 C.F.R. Part 121) in the Federal Register on March 18, 2005. All provisions of these final rules supersede those contained in the interim final rules and became effective on April 18, 2005.

More at link


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandem...tion-1918-virus.html

The fully reconstructed 1918 virus was striking in terms of its ability to quickly replicate, i.e., make copies of itself and spread infection in the lungs of infected mice. For example, four days after infection, the amount of 1918 virus found in the lung tissue of infected mice was 39,000 times higher than that produced by one of the comparison recombinant flu viruses.

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My wife appears to be completely over it now, seven days after the infusion treatment, and about fourteen days after first noticing it.

GREAT to hear!!!

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Spanish Influenza

Now there was an actual pandemic.