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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
So I understand - the Chinese discovered this virus was "in the wild" in late November, 2019.

In Mid December 2019 - tens of thousand of Chinese college students in America returned home to China.

In January - millions of Chinese traveled to Las Vegas, a huge destination point during the Chinese New year.

In mid-January 2020 - those same tens of thousands of Chinese students returned to the US to resume college.

So this virus has been here in the US since mid-January?

I don't have a science degree or predictive model to illustrate the logic above - but shouldn't the spread here in the US be much further ahead than where we are being told it is after being here in the US for the past 8-weeks?

#1 Chinese New Year or, Lunar New Year, has people traveling to where ever their families are, Vegas isn't very high on the list of destinations. Vegas in-general is a top-3 destination for overseas travelers to the US, talk to most first timers visiting the US: NYC, Orlando and Vegas, along with Los Angeles and pick a major national park round-out, the top-5. Throw-in Miami for some.

#2 Can't get a predictive spread model unless you have an accurate count. Can't get an accurate count if people don't report in when they get a fever/cough. Most epidemiologist have said, end of Feb / beginning Mar will be when it blooms in the US; here we are. This is a moderate burn virus. Keep in mind health care in the US is not centralized, like much of gov, it's decentralized and focused at the state-level. Some states are better at managing emergencies than others...we'll see how this plays out.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
All travel between the US and Europe suspended. Jesus.

In both directions, or just from Europe to the U.S.?

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
All travel between the US and Europe suspended. Jesus.

In both directions, or just from Europe to the U.S.?

I'm not 100% sure. I think it was both ways though with some exceptions for Americans who are properly screened.

The UK is exempt.

While it can come across as alarmist (and that alarm may well be well founded...) I found this article a pretty thorough analysis.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo...ill-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

In the above article is a link to this graphic on Reuters that shows "Case-31" in Korea who spread it to thousands of people.

https://graphics.reuters.com/C...00B5G33SB/index.html

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
All travel between the US and Europe suspended. Jesus.

In both directions, or just from Europe to the U.S.?

Only (so far) for 30 days

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Originally posted by Pyker:

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
All travel between the US and Europe suspended. Jesus.

In both directions, or just from Europe to the U.S.?

Only (so far) for 30 days

Yes, but is the ban in both directions? I'm seeing it is only Europe to US.

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Originally posted by Pyker:

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
All travel between the US and Europe suspended. Jesus.

In both directions, or just from Europe to the U.S.?

Only (so far) for 30 days

The wording I'm seeing is FROM Europe. So perhaps it's just one way for now.

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by Pyker:

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
All travel between the US and Europe suspended. Jesus.

In both directions, or just from Europe to the U.S.?

Only (so far) for 30 days

Yes, but is the ban in both directions? I'm seeing it is only Europe to US.

From only at this stage

I have to say, I find that action quite extreme.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Pyker:

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
All travel between the US and Europe suspended. Jesus.

In both directions, or just from Europe to the U.S.?

Only (so far) for 30 days

The wording I'm seeing is FROM Europe. So perhaps it's just one way for now.

I imagine once you’re there, you’d need to pass a 14 day quarantine to get back into the states.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

The wording I'm seeing is FROM Europe. So perhaps it's just one way for now.
I imagine once you’re there, you’d need to pass a 14 day quarantine to get back into the states.

He said 'appropriate screening' will be required for Americans returning.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

I imagine once you’re there, you’d need to pass a 14 day quarantine to get back into the states.

That would be ridiculous.

I'm sorry. I just find this all so pointless. The virus is here. It spans the country. Are we really helping at this point with these travel bans, quarantines, and isolation from crowds?

Airlines that were barely hanging on prior to this travel ban will likely be forced under now. Tomorrow is going to be something, especially the market. And now we're going to pay people to stay home? I think I may quarantine myself from the internet and media.

The video of President Trump's speech is on C-Span.

Watch it for yourselves.

That would be a “Level 3 Health Travel Notice”, and does involve a 14-day quarantine.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

I imagine once you’re there, you’d need to pass a 14 day quarantine to get back into the states.

That would be ridiculous.

Why?
We’ve been told the incubation period is 14 days.
Seems logical that we would want to ensure someone is Coronavirus free before coming into the U.S.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

I imagine once you’re there, you’d need to pass a 14 day quarantine to get back into the states.

That would be ridiculous.

Why?
We’ve been told the incubation period is 14 days.
Seems logical that we would want to ensure someone is Coronavirus free before coming into the U.S.

Can you imagine how many Americans are currently traveling overseas?

Tom Hanks and his wife apparently caught the Coronavirus while in Australia. Just came out.

If it'll attack celebrities, what chance does the common man stand?

This is war

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Originally posted by PASig:
Tom Hanks and his wife apparently caught the Coronavirus while in Australia. Just came out.

Well that’s it. It’s all gonna end in a worldwide famine and mankind eating the peanuts out of each other’s shit.