He wants to turn service members into felons, putting them in the same category as rapists, murderers and deserters. At this time in our history I would advise our young people to not enlist in the military, and I have never before felt this way.

Biden Pushing For Dishonourable Discharges, Court Martials For Troops Who Refuse Vaccines

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...-who-refuse-vaccines

The Biden administration is pushing for dishonourable discharges and even court martialing for troops who disobey orders to get COVID vaccines.

GOP Representative Mark Green of Tennessee proposed an amendment this week to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would prohibit “any discharge but honorable” for troops who refuse vaccines.

The White House responded with a statement noting “The Administration strongly opposes section 716,” reasoning that it would “detract from readiness and limit a commander’s options for enforcing good order and discipline when a Service member fails to obey a lawful order to receive a vaccination.”

The statement added “To enable a uniformed force to fight with discipline, commanders must have the ability to give orders and take appropriate disciplinary measures.”

Responding to the statement, Rep. Green said “I am appalled that the Biden Administration is trying to remove my amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that prevents anything but an honorable discharge for service members who refuse to get the COVID-19 vaccine.”

Green added “This was a bipartisan amendment — every Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee agreed to it.”

“No American who raises their hand to serve our Nation should be punished for making a highly personal medical decision,” Green previously urged.

Another section of the bill, 720, proposes that troops who have previously had COVID-19 should be exempted from a vaccine mandate. The Biden administration also opposes it, claiming it creates “a new and overly broad exemption from the vaccination requirement for previous infection that would undermine the effectiveness of the requirement.”

The House is expected to vote on the NDAA early Thursday morning.

As we have previously noted, there has been significant resistance to vaccine mandates among military service members.

Tucker Carlson revealed Monday that a bizarre presentation was given to troops sardonically ridiculing vaccine mandates with links to satanism, as the military pushes mandates, even for elite navy SEALS who have had the virus and have natural immunity.

Video at link

The AMA Is Teaching Doctors Psychological Manipulation Tactics to Coerce the Unvaccinated
by Dr. Joseph Mercola
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/...ce-the-unvaccinated/

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Originally posted by Jimineer:
Has Biden’s mandate actually been made official? I couldn’t find it online.

Have I missed something? What mandate?

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The White House responded with a statement noting “The Administration strongly opposes section 716,” reasoning that it would “detract from readiness and limit a commander’s options for enforcing good order and discipline when a Service member fails to obey a lawful order to receive a vaccination.”

<rhetorical> Has this presidential mandate been determined to translate into a lawful order for military members? If so, when and by which judicial entity did this occur? <rhetorical>

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Originally posted by cjevans:
Para, if this is too much info ...?

You have greater access to news about the situation than we here in the US, and you know far better than we, the attitudes of the Australian people. Without wishing to place upon you an undue burden, we rely upon you and other Australian forum members to bring us news from your country. Feel free to post whatever you deem relevant.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Jimineer:
Has Biden’s mandate actually been made official? I couldn’t find it online.

Have I missed something? What mandate?

September 9, 2021, in a sweeping executive order, president Joe Biden mandated all U.S. companies with 100 or more employees to require COVID vaccination or weekly testing, or face federal fines of up to $14,000 per violation. Biden also ordered businesses to give time off to employees to receive the injections.

Biden is also requiring all federal employees and federal contractors to get the shots. For unspecified reasons, postal workers and members of Congress and their staff are exempt from the vaccine mandate. Biden did not make any exceptions for persons who have already had COVID and recovered, and therefore have antibodies to the virus.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/20...ndate-means-for-you/


Biden Pushing For Dishonourable Discharges, Court Martials For Troops Who Refuse Vaccines

White House claims anything but dishonorable discharge for refusing vaccines would “detract from readiness and limit a commander’s options for enforcing good order and discipline.”

https://summit.news/2021/09/23...who-refuse-vaccines/

^^^
As far as government employees, executive orders can only be applied to the executive branch. Of course, this clearly highlights the hypocrisy of the leftist trash running the country into the ground and of the entire government at large that anyone DARE to abstain from getting the miracle elixir, but here we are. I’ll be leaving federal service 5 months early as a direct result, barring a last minute change of the mandate. My dearest wish is that Biden suffers a debilitating stroke that leaves his “doctor” wife to feed him oatmeal for the remainder of both their days as a reward for the attack on freedom we see now.

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Biden Pushing For Dishonourable Discharges, Court Martials For Troops Who Refuse Vaccines

Nothing these traitors try surprises me, but is refusing a vaccine grounds for a dishonorable discharge? It’s my understanding that you would have to have committed a serious crime such as rape, murder, etc. For the military folks, is insubordination, ie.- failing to follow the direct order to get the vaccine grounds for a true dishonorable discharge?

I remember right before Desert Storm we had to get juiced up for whatever bio attack we might have come up against.
Some didn't want to and you pretty much had no choice in the matter.
Get the shots or else.

I don't recall anyone refusing to get them so don't know what happened to those who did.

Yes they can. However, the person can get it changed to “Other than Honorable” which isn’t as bad.

I think before it’s over, the military will get it right. I think as much as people want to claim how “woke” the military is right now, I think they’ll continue to get it right. I think they are doing the same thing that all federal agencies are doing right now. Trying to navigate the minefield of having this level of incompetence in charge.

I’m seeing the military through the eyes of a PFC, and I think they’ll eventually get it right.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

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Biden Pushing For Dishonourable Discharges, Court Martials For Troops Who Refuse Vaccines

Nothing these traitors try surprises me, but is refusing a vaccine grounds for a dishonorable discharge? It’s my understanding that you would have to have committed a serious crime such as rape, murder, etc. For the military folks, is insubordination, ie.- failing to follow the direct order to get the vaccine grounds for a true dishonorable discharge?

Maybe a Big Chicken Dinner aka Bad Conduct Discharge for not obeying orders. It definitely shouldn't be a Dishonorable Discharge (which are usually felony charges, I have seen troops and officers sentenced for a year and a day to make it a felony for the Dishonorable Discharge) , but who knows with the current state of Generals as they are the ones that approve or request charges and findings for and from Court Martial.

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Yes they can. However, the person can get it changed to “Other than Honorable” which isn’t as bad.

It might not be as bad but it certainly isn't good. If they were to go that route than a general discharge would make more sense.

But they're not trying to make sense, they are picking and choosing ways to coerce people into getting the jab.

If they offered a GD military readiness would fall below the minimum and general officers would get an ass-chewing and they don't want to affect their pensions.

Soon, Sir Isaac Newton is going to step onto the scene.

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I’m seeing the military through the eyes of a PFC, and I think they’ll eventually get it right.

Jones, not trying to pick a fight with ya. But they are not getting much right anymore. So I would say your a bit jaded in thinking they would get this right. Many would disagree with your optimistic view. I am hoping their is an opportunity for many young men and women to depart this military and get on with their lives as they see fit without repercussions.

New York's New Gov Threatens To Replace Unvaccinated Hospital Workers With 'Foreigners'

New York's first female governor Kathy Hochul, who took the reins in the Empire State after her predecessor and former boss, Andrew Cuomo, finally resigned, is showing the state's recalcitrant healthcare workers just how understanding and progressive she can be.

During a press briefing with reporters in Rochester Wednesday, Hochul told a group of reporters that she hoped all unvaccinated workers would meet Monday's deadline to get the jab, or lose their jobs.

For those who continue to resist - including nearly 20% of the state's hospital and nursing-home workers - they will be replaced. Possibly by foreign workers.

Faced with this, it makes sense to wonder how NY State, which has no immigration-related authority, could even credibly make such a threat? But Hochul says there have been conversations with the Department of State (albeit on a "limited basis") about the possibility of doling out emergency visas to foreign workers.

"To those who won’t, we’ll be replacing people. And I have a plan that’s going to be announced very shortly," she said.

"We’ve identified a whole range of opportunities we have to help supplement them."

Hochul said state officials were “working closely with various hospital systems to find out where we can get other individuals to come in and supplement places like nursing homes."

"We’re also reaching out to the Department of State to find out about visas for foreign workers, on a limited basis, to bring more nurses over here," she said.

Per the Department of Health's records, 19% of the state's hospital workers remained unvaccinated as of Sept. 15, and 18% of nursing home employees remained unvaccinated as of Wednesday.

Starting Monday, employers can fire unvaccinated workers who don't have a "valid medical exemption" (though employees who claim religious exemption are also immune until Oct. 12 due to a temporary injunction issued by a federal judge in Utica).

The plaintiffs in that case, almost all of them Catholic, oppose vaccines because they "employ aborted fetus cell lines in their testing, development, or production."

Though the US Conference of Bishops says it's okay for Catholics to take these vaccines if no alternatives are available, and Pope Francis has of course spoken out in favor of vaccination.

Circling back to the situation in New York, while Hochul is probably reveling in her first opportunity to play "hardball" - a game for which her predecessor was famous - New York health workers can probably rest easy - at least when it comes to the foreign worker threat.

The State Department couldn't process all those SIVs for Afghan collaborators in a timely manner. What makes you think they'll be able to dole them out to foreign workers, who probably also haven't been vaccinated. Where does Hochul think these foreign workers are going to come from? Europe?

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...l-workers-foreigners

FDA Official Busted Joking About 'Blow Dart' Forced Vaccinations, 'Jewish Star' Registry To

A FDA official was caught on undercover video calling for forced COVID vaccinations, and a "Jewish Star" type registry for all unvaccinated Americans.

Taylor Lee, an economist with the Food and Drug Administration, was filmed by a Project Veritas undercover journalist fantasizing about going "door to door" where he would "stab everyone" with Covid-19 vaccines.

"Census goes door-to-door if you don’t respond. So, we have the infrastructure to do it [forced COVID vaccinations]. I mean, it’ll cost a ton of money. But I think, at that point, I think there needs to be a registry of people who aren’t vaccinated. Although that’s sounding very [much like Nazi] Germany," said Lee, adding "Nazi Germany…I mean, think about it like the Jewish Star [for unvaccinated Americans]."

While discussing the African American community's reluctance to take the Covid vaccine, Lee's solution (which he applied to several other demographics), was to "blow dart" them.

Taylor Lee, FDA Economist: “I think that a lot of the time -- so there's also this issue of -- I remember reading about how with COVID [vaccine] trials, they were having an issue recruiting African American people. It was because of a different medication the government tried to do that was specifically designed to kill African Americans.”

Veritas Journalist: “Oh, so like a mistrust thing.”

Lee: “Yeah.”

Veritas Journalist: “But this thing [COVID vaccine] is safe, though.”

Lee: “We know that now, but like again, I think there is still this big mistrust and like it's deep-rooted.”

Veritas Journalist: “Yeah. Can’t blame them [African Americans].”

Lee: “I can’t. But at the same time, like, blow dart. That’s where we’re going.”

Watch:



https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...h-star-registry-mark


Another whistleblower on vaccines pops up...

Deborah Conrad, a hospitalist physician’s assistant on the frontlines of the pandemic, pulls back the curtain on the complete lack and disregard in her hospital for reporting Covid vaccine injury to VAERS, this country’s only mechanism to track the safety of these rushed-to-market, mandated products. In riveting detail, including emails & recorded phone conversations, Conrad exposes the internal push to turn a blind eye to injuries and “tow the company line” that this vaccine is safe.

https://www.investmentwatchblo...on-vaccines-pops-up/

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Faced with this, it makes sense to wonder how NY State, which has no immigration-related authority, could even credibly make such a threat?

Very easily. NY has done this before, bringing in a whole slew of Filipino nurses when they had a shortage. Other places do the same thing.

I don't know the logistics of it all from an immigration standpoint, but it's been done before and will likely be done again.

Those commies don't make many idle threats. They mean it and they'll do it. Funny part is, the state nurses association will still rabidly support them.

I haven't seen this posted and I wonder if it's too far down the conspiracy road, but figured I'd put it out there.

https://rumble.com/vml4sn-fune...histle-on-covid.html

https://rumble.com/vml4sn-funeral-directer-john-olooney-blows-the-whistle-on-covid.html

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Originally posted by 6guns:
I wonder if it's too far down the conspiracy road...

Yep

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Soon, Sir Isaac Newton is going to step onto the scene.

For every action… ?