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A couple of weeks ago, I was required to start working in the office once a week;however, as of this week, due to another employee in a different department testing positive for china-virus, all unvaccinated employees were told to not come into the office...so I'm back to comfortably working from home 5 days a week and gaining about 2.5 hours of my life in not having to commute once/week.




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Florida has a high percentage of retirement aged residents wich could explain the higher hospitalization rate.

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This is the reason we have had a surge in cases in the United States I wonder if the Biden Administration is shipping the majority to red states?


Texas border town makes deal with Biden administration to ship illegals to big cities
The border city's Democratic Mayor Pete Saenz said Border Patrol is not testing the people it is releasing for COVID before they are bused out.

https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter

Laredo, Texas reached an agreement Wednesday to settle its lawsuit against the Biden Department of Homeland Security for transporting illegal immigrants from the Rio Grande Valley sector into the border city.

Now these individuals are being transported instead to Austin, Dallas and Houston after they are released by Border Patrol.

Laredo Mayor Pete Saenz, a Democrat, said Border Patrol is not testing the people it is releasing for COVID before they are bused out. Under the new agreement, the city is not required to test them, so they don’t have to provide care.

"The reason why we don't do testing is that once you test, there's an obligation," Saenz told MyRGV.com. "If they're positive, we're told that you have to quarantine. We don't have the infrastructure for that.

"What we're doing is coordinating with the EMC, the emergency management coordinators, in Austin and Houston, and I believe even Dallas, too ... Then, it's really up to them to continue offering PPEs, masks, hygiene, whatever they require."

Laredo was forced to temporary shutdown after illegal immigrants created a COVID-19 outbreak, Saenz said.

"Border Patrol was very clear that they were just going to put them out in the street, in our plazas," Saenz said. "And of course, we couldn't have that.

"I know some people may say, 'You're basically transporting untested people to other cities.' And the answer is, 'Yes.' But what alternative do we have here, locally?

"At this point, we've had zero ICU beds in the last seven days. We've had people in overflow, basically waiting for a hospital bed out in the hallways. I think today we had close to 40 just waiting for a room."

Laredo taxpayers have spent roughly $54,000 on busing out illegal immigrants so far, Saenz said.

President Biden "is letting all these people in knowing they have COVID," Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton told Fox News. "They are being dropped off all over the country. I was talking to some Dallas police officers. They watched ... a couple of buses unload in downtown Dallas in the middle of the night. These people just disappeared. Many of them have COVID.

"And to be lectured about masks and vaccines by the administration, to be told when you are out of the country and a U.S. citizen, you can’t come back if you have COVID, is hypocritical."

"We know that everybody being released, they're not being tested," Morgan said on a Zoom video meeting sponsored by the Heritage Foundation.

"Let me give you another fact: 32 CBP personnel have died from COVID in the line of duty, nine in the United States Border Patrol, since the pandemic," Morgan added.

Mayorkas "is directing the release of up to 80% of families who have illegally entered the United States," and they are not being tested for the coronavirus or other diseases, Morgan alleged. "DHS is not testing them. So what's DHS Secretary Mayorkas's solution to all of this? 'Ah, it's up to the local communities to deal with it. It's your issue and your problem to deal with now.'"


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I went out to dinner last night in downtown Indianapolis with a female companion for her birthday. We went to a Brazilian Steakhouse. It was very busy, and no one was wearing masks except for a couple people and I think also the "Gauchos" with the swords serving the meat, but not the management or other wait staff.

After dinner we went to a cigar and martini bar and again no one was wearing masks.

Then as we picked up my car and started leaving, she saw a live music bar and wanted to go in. Three piece band on the stage, pretty crowded and filled with 20-somethings, no masks.

She didn't know the music (seemed to be stuff for 20-somethings) so we walked a couple blocks to a place that plays a better mix of music. Pretty full, no masks, and songs for all ages.

It was kind of like everything is almost back to normal, except for a few masks here and there.

But I am still working at home, and when the "delta surge" resulted in the CDC recommending masks indoors, my employer went back to requiring masks for everyone onsite (mostly people in operations that cannot work at home). They delayed any large scale reopening of offices by a month or two. They are pushing vaccination but not requiring it. They did allow vaccinated people not to wear masks before the "delta surge" but now everyone has to wear them again so there isn't much incentive. And an executive director is fretting over letting people in his chain of command travel on a company shuttle plane to a plant for a two day onsite to plan a $100M+ capital investment.

The difference between reality and the fears of people who are trying to profess their commitment to "keeping us safe" is pretty extreme.

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It was kind of like everything is almost back to normal, except for a few masks here and there.

As it should be, except the .gov continues to peddle fear for the sake of control...

Weaponizing Fear, Biden Administration Contemplating Mandating Vaccines for Interstate Travel Roll Eyes
– They Won’t, But They Will Push Further

Many outlets have reported on a leak from the White House that JoeBama was considering a vaccine mandate for interstate travel. These public probes into how far they can go should not come as a surprise; however, as each day passes more and more people are realizing COVID fear is being weaponized.

As a result of a larger awakening; which must be maintained with large trumpet by every ally of freedom; further federal mandates will get a lot more push-back and become harder and harder to execute.

VIA Associated Press – […] The sharper federal approach comes as nearly 90 million eligible Americans still have not been vaccinated and as Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, says shots are the only path for the nation to contain the delta variant.

[…] Still, while more severe measures — such as mandating vaccines for interstate travel or changing how the federal government reimburses treatment for those who are unvaccinated and become ill with COVID-19 — have been discussed, the administration worried that they would be too polarizing at this time. An administration official said the interstate travel vaccination requirement was not under consideration at the moment.

That’s not to say they won’t be implemented in the future, as public opinion continues to shift toward requiring vaccinations as a means to restore normalcy. (read more)

https://theconservativetreehou...further/#more-215304



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https://www.breitbart.com/ente...kless-birthday-bash/

singer Erykah Badu is begging the Obamas to forgive her after she posted videos to social media showing the world just how former President Barack Obama celebrated his 60th birthday last weekend among hundreds of maskless party guests. Obama’s party came just as the delta variant of the coronavirus was surging across the country and while the CDC and the Joe Biden White House was urging people to socially distance, keep their groups small, and wear masks.

“Mr. And Mrs. Obama, Please forgive me 4 being the ‘terrible guest’ at such a sacred event for your family. I was so inconsiderate, Thank you for all your love. What an example of ‘how NOT’ to be …… erica,” Badu tweeted on Thursday.

During the party, Badu posted a video to social media of Obama dancing maskless among hundreds of maskless party guests. The singer later deleted her post — but not before others on the internet saved her video and re-posted it to social media.

Badu’s video ended up sparking outrage on social media, as some said it showed the hypocrisy of those who lecture Americans on how to behave during the Chinese coronavirus pandemic, while living their lives in the opposite manner.
 
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Damn, the Truth! Where did that come from Erykah? Kinda stuck up on ya, didn't it? Can't put the genie back in the bottle, no matter how you style your hair. Doesn't seem quite fair.
 
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Or put anther way, it's not going away and everyone will get it eventually...

 
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mandating vaccines for interstate travel

How could that be enforced? Air and train (Amtrak) I could see, but what about by road? There aren't enough cops in the country to monitor and stop motor vehicles on every interstate, US-numbered and state highway, as well as every local road, that crosses a state ine. I don't think anybody thought this through.
 
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mandating vaccines for interstate travel

How could that be enforced? Air and train (Amtrak) I could see, but what about by road? There aren't enough cops in the country to monitor and stop motor vehicles on every interstate, US-numbered and state highway, as well as every local road, that crosses a state ine. I don't think anybody thought this through.


Trying to put the pressure and fear on the non compliant to get them to take the vaccine. It is not about the virus, if it were the Southern border would not be open and they would not be bussing illegals who were not tested all over the country.

How dare we not follow their mandates and refuse to believe their lies. They will have none of that.


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Don't forget, kids- anytime a vaccinated person gets COVID-19, make it sound like a rare event, by giving it a nifty name like "breakthrough case."
 
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mandating vaccines for interstate travel

How could that be enforced? Air and train (Amtrak) I could see, but what about by road? There aren't enough cops in the country to monitor and stop motor vehicles on every interstate, US-numbered and state highway, as well as every local road, that crosses a state ine. I don't think anybody thought this through.
More so than even that, I think this would have to pass a HUGE legal hurdle (which I don't think it ever could) before it could be put in place. Then there's the issue that many states simply would not support this BS. Biden and his crew of incompetent totalitarian wannabees can join Jeffrey Toobin on a Zoom circle jerk to bloviate all they want on this topic, but in the end, it ain't never gonna happen.


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It is not about the virus, if it were the Southern border would not be open and they would not be bussing illegals who were not tested all over the country.


It's entirely likely they are intentionally doing this to cause higher infection/hospitalization/death rates in southern Republican states to discredit their governors' refusal to enact vaccine or mask mandates or continued lockdowns. Don't ever underestimate the propensity of marxists to kill people to achieve political goals.
 
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Badu described Obamas birthday party as a "sacred event".
Like.... Easter? Or Christmas?
Lets all worship the Obamas! Roll Eyes


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When your entire world is about race- when you dwell on it, fume over it 24 hours a day, every day of your life, then, yeah, Obama becoming POTUS is sacred.

They don't give a shit about this country.
 
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I keep hearing this word... "case". What does that mean?

'Case': Another semantic Trojan Horse
By Leann Horrocks

In our new world of pandemic panic porn, it is important to remember that the word "case" is not a term of art. It is not a medical term or a legal term. It is just another word with a broad meaning that has been commandeered by people who want to control you.

This seemingly innocuous word is being used as a blunt instrument to stampede you into doing what the globalist elites want you to do. It is widely used when the media, Big Tech, and government experts (the "infomob") lie by omission.

When you hear that there are x "new cases" in any context, this should immediately prompt you to ask questions about the number:

Are these just positive COVID tests?
Are these hospitalized people?
Are these people who are not sick at all?
Are these re-testing of the same people who have to be tested daily to keep their jobs?
Are these people with other medical conditions?

The infomob wants you to envision these "cases" as hospitalized people on respirators, gasping for breath. What if most of these are just positive tests? If so, were these done with the PCR test? The fact is, the PCR test is so highly parameterizable that you can set it to find whatever you want. This is one of the reasons the CDC has quit using it.

By simply saying "cases," breathless TV "newspeople" can fill in the blanks for you with angst-ridden, dramatic presentation. Don't buy it. It's all set-up for you to drown in their implications. The infomob makes sure you are not exposed to any contrary viewpoint without going way out of your way, and they present the party line with maximum drama. It's all many people hear, and it's loud. Sadly, it has also been very effective.
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In addition to merely misrepresenting reality, the numbers may well not be true. It's not enough for the globalist left to demonize the "unvaccinated." Even with control of all the levers of power and all means of casual information access, the elites are still having to lie. For example, the Texas Tribune recently claimed that 5,800 children were admitted to pediatric hospitals from COVID in just seven days. The truth is that 783 children were hospitalized over the course of a month from COVID and other causes. How many parents were finally convinced by the larger number to subject their child to a radical gene therapy with far higher risk that the disease itself? How must they have felt when they saw the retraction?

I saw a Texas congressman, arguing for school masking, saying child hospital cases had doubled in the last week in his district. Was he relying on this article? Was he talking about two "cases" rising to four?

It is really important to listen carefully to news reports. The more emotional they are, the more carefully you have to listen. When you hear the word "case," your BS-o-meter should swing to the red zone immediately.

It's easy for a clear thinker to just throw up his hands and say, "I don't believe anybody anymore." Don't drop out! You are playing right into lefty hands when you do that; leftists would love to have you removed from the playing field. They don't want you looking around for the truth. If you are reading this, you know how to look outside the box. Right now, that ability might be your greatest strength.

The globalist left's desire to instill fear in one's fellow countrymen for political gain is an evil goal and ghastly in its scope. A fig leaf of "concern for those in danger" doesn't begin to cover its malicious intent. It's up to you not to allow yourself or the ones you care about fall victim to it.

https://www.americanthinker.co...ic_trojan_horse.html



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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...theft-covid-n1276789

long article, snips:

How international scam artists pulled off an epic theft of Covid benefits
Russian mobsters, Chinese hackers and Nigerian scammers have used stolen identities to plunder tens of billions of dollars in pandemic aid, officials say.

Among the ripest targets for this cyber theft have been jobless programs. The federal government can’t say for sure how much of the more than $900 billion in pandemic-related unemployment relief has been stolen, but credible estimates range from $87 to $400 billion--at least half of which went to foreign criminals, law enforcement officials say.

Those staggering sums dwarf, even on the low end, what the federal government spends each year on intelligence collection, food stamps, or K-12 education.

“This is perhaps the single biggest organized fraud heist we've ever seen,” said security researcher Armen Najarian, of the firm RSA, who tracked a Nigerian fraud ring as it allegedly siphoned millions out of more than a dozen states.

Jeremy Sheridan, who directs the office of investigations at the Secret Service, called it “the largest fraud scheme that I’ve ever encountered.”

“Due to the volume and pace at which these funds were made available and a lot of the requirements that were lifted in order to release them, criminals seized on that opportunity and were very, very successful--and continue to be successful,” he told NBC News.

While the enormous scope of COVID relief fraud has been clear for some time, scant attention has been paid to the role of organized foreign criminal groups, who move taxpayer money overseas via laundering schemes involving payment apps and “money mules,” law enforcement officials told NBC News.

“This is like letting people just walk right into Fort Knox and take the gold, and nobody even asked any questions,” said Blake Hall, the CEO of ID.me, which has contracts with 27 states to verify identities.

lots more at link. only gets worse
 
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Fauci Downplays New COVID-19 Vaccine Study

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...2BHswhApzx9EAvQU63BT

White House COVID-19 advisor Anthony Fauci downplayed on Aug. 15 a recent study from a prominent medical research center that deemed the Pfizer vaccine less effective than the Moderna vaccine.

The Mayo Clinic and Cambridge-based biotech company nference, in a study, found that both mRNA COVID-19 vaccines’ effectiveness dropped in the month of July. The researchers, while saying the vaccines provided good protection against the virus, found that Moderna’s vaccine effectiveness was 76 percent, as compared with Pfizer’s 42 percent.

“That study … is a pre-print study, it hasn’t been fully peer-reviewed,” Fauci said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” of the recent Mayo-nference study’s findings, which was published on the website medRxiv.org. The study gathered data from about 25,000 Minnesota residents from January and July.

“I don’t doubt what they’re seeing, but there are a lot of confounding variables in there, about when one was started, the relative amount of people in that cohort who were Delta versus Alpha.”

Fauci was referring to the Delta and Alpha COVID-19 variants. He didn’t elaborate on the comment.

Both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine should be used as booster shots, he said.

“Right now, if we get boosters … it’s clear we want to make sure we get people, if possible, to get the boost from the original vaccine,” Fauci said.

Fauci has been the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 and has become one of the federal government’s public faces in its messaging about COVID-19. In the interview, Fauci also said he hopes the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) fully authorizes the vaccines.

COVID-19 is the illness caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.

Representatives from the Mayo Clinic didn’t respond to a request for comment on Fauci’s remarks by press time.

Mayo Clinic and nference researchers studied records to determine the vaccines’ efficacy, although the scientists noted that it hasn’t yet been peer-reviewed.

Despite their findings, the researchers touted the effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines, saying that they “strongly protect” against COVID-19 and “severe disease.”

“Larger studies with more diverse populations are warranted to guide critical pending public and global health decisions, such as the optimal timing for booster doses and which vaccines should be administered to individuals who have not yet received one dose,” they wrote.

When reached for comment, Pfizer told The Epoch Times that it, along with partner BioNTech, are “driven by science to discover the best approaches” to combat the virus. Moderna didn’t respond to a request for comment by press time.

Days ago, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) approved booster shots of the two mRNA vaccines for people with compromised immune systems. The decision doesn’t apply to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, which uses different technology and requires only one dose.


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“That study … is a pre-print study, it hasn’t been fully peer-reviewed,” Fauci said
Translation: Palms have yet to be greased.

Will it be "peer-reviewed" in Ben Franklins, or will it be unmarked twenties?
 
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Speaking of cases, my youngest daughter tested positive (not one symptom) on her way to Hawaii from Dallas. Ended up with three total positive tests in two different states and you know damn well every one is counted. A gal I know in Florida had five positive tests before she was allowed back to work.
 
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