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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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July 07, 2021, 01:44 PM
ZSMICHAEL
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
quote:
Zilwaukee, Mich

^^^^^^^^^^^
If at first glance Zilwaukee looks and sounds like Milwaukee, there’s a good reason for it. Its remiscient name stems from a scheme by two brothers named Daniel and Solomon Johnson. In 1848, they settled in an area along the Saginaw River and consequently built a sawmill. They then realized, obviously, that they needed people to run the mill. Recalling a large German population in Milwaukee, they named their new settlement “Zilwaukee.” They hoped to confuse new German immigrants into thinking they were going to Milwaukee. Now, Zilwaukee is a 2.34 square-mile, colorful city located close to Saginaw.

Slight thread drift. Confuse immigrants! I think today's immigrants are smarter. Not a lot of Hispanics in Mexico Beach, FL.
July 07, 2021, 01:52 PM
konata88
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
“If there are factors that can make it riskier for some kids (to get a vaccine), I hope health officials can figure out what those are,” she said.


So sorry for the boy and his death. So meaningless. A CDC investigation is a clear conflict of interest; there needs to be independent investigations and oversight; no censorship.


Perhaps they already know and are censoring the information. How do you feel about that? And how would you feel if they do figure it out but continue to downplay and mislead in their pursuit of 100% compliance? And what if the outcomes are random - would you still encourage your child to get the vaccine (let's be clear - this wasn't the child's decision to make, it's completely and solely the responsibility of the parent to make this decision)?

You know, instead of wondering whether the vaccine was safe after the fact, perhaps you could have done some of the due diligence before taking the vaccine.




"Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy
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July 07, 2021, 01:58 PM
braillediver



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July 07, 2021, 01:58 PM
doublecorona
My 10 and 20 year old daughters will not be getting the vaccine under any circumstances. The public school system cannot make my 10 year old get because we pulled her out and put her into private school.



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July 07, 2021, 01:59 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by konata88:

So sorry for the boy and his death. So meaningless. A CDC investigation is a clear conflict of interest; there needs to be independent investigations and oversight; no censorship.




A preliminary autopsy, according the the Detroit Free Press, found that he had an enlarged heart when he died and had fluid around his heart. We know that this is a side effect of this vaccine, particularly in young people. Perhaps it is in a small number of young people at this time, but why would anyone who is relatively young and healthy even take that risk by taking this jab? It is utterly incongruous with prudence or good sense. It is UNREASONABLE. You hear me, Gov. Cox?


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July 07, 2021, 02:06 PM
6guns
Reading that article made me furious! Mad




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July 07, 2021, 02:25 PM
parabellum
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Jacob’s death was reported a month after the CDC acklowdeged “relatively few” reports of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, among adolescents and young adults who receive the vaccine, though most cases were minor.
Oh, yes, "minor", unless it's you or your kid.
quote:
“Meanwhile, the health department continues to encourage families to speak with their physicians to weigh their own risks and benefits of vaccination.”
Blow it out your ass.
July 07, 2021, 03:50 PM
equivet
It is possible that the kid had pre-existing hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. When my youngest was 12 he had a cold and I used my stethoscope to listen to his lungs and heard a murmur so massive it made me sick to my stomach. No previous doctors appointment had heard this and he was a normal, active kid. Rushed him to the ER and he was immediately transferred to children’s hospital where he was diagnosed with an enlarged heart due to mitral valve insufficiency and cardiomyopathy. Now 20, he is doing great on medication and his heart is virtually normal, even on MRI. I feel extremely fortunate to have accidentally come across that murmur, as there was a good chance that he could have gone into a-fib and passed at any time.

Point is, though it could very well be the vaccine that caused this poor boys death, (especially considering the now known risks) there could be other factors involved. My boy showed no symptoms and would have been considered healthy with no preconditions, all while having a serious, undiagnosed disease.
July 07, 2021, 06:30 PM
konata88
There should be a list of things we require before we would even consider consenting to a vaccine. For example, based on uncensored, comprehensive, scientifically vetted data:

1. Why is ivermectin not the first choice as prophylactic and/or treatment?
2. Need a response to the risks and issues as articulated by groups like front line docs, mRNA experts / inventors, etc.
3. Why is vaccination an imperative for a flu with a 99.9% survival rate? Why not follow the examples of data driven decisions in other countries like Singapore?
4. What is the vaccination rate at Pfizer, et al (big pharma vaccine manufacters)? What about rates at other related institutions (other pharma that don't make wuflu vaccines)? Why?
5. What is the risk to others if I'm not vaccinated? Again - need actionable data, not what-ifs, not speculation, not worries.
6. I'm sure there is a long list of other things..... just some to start as example.




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"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book
July 07, 2021, 06:42 PM
BamaJeepster
Ah...The media is tipping their hand again.

If you object to door to door vaccination crews, you are a national security risk.

If you are a national security risk, what does that open the door to?


https://twitter.com/JackPosobi.../1412758997292179456



“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
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July 07, 2021, 06:49 PM
Graniteguy
quote:
Originally posted by equivet:
It is possible that the kid had pre-existing hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. When my youngest was 12 he had a cold and I used my stethoscope to listen to his lungs and heard a murmur so massive it made me sick to my stomach. No previous doctors appointment had heard this and he was a normal, active kid. Rushed him to the ER and he was immediately transferred to children’s hospital where he was diagnosed with an enlarged heart due to mitral valve insufficiency and cardiomyopathy. Now 20, he is doing great on medication and his heart is virtually normal, even on MRI. I feel extremely fortunate to have accidentally come across that murmur, as there was a good chance that he could have gone into a-fib and passed at any time.

Point is, though it could very well be the vaccine that caused this poor boys death, (especially considering the now known risks) there could be other factors involved. My boy showed no symptoms and would have been considered healthy with no preconditions, all while having a serious, undiagnosed disease.


Indirectly - you sort of hit home on something here. One of the reasons clinical trials on medicines and vaccinations run 3-5 years is so scientists and physicians can thoroughly explore the effects on a wide variety of medical conditions - like heart conditions. (regardless of diagnosis). This is the real danger of subjecting yourself or a loved one to an emergency/experimental vaccine.
July 07, 2021, 07:01 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
If you object to door to door vaccination crews, you are a national security risk.
I figure I was already assigned that label.
July 07, 2021, 07:14 PM
lastmanstanding
Given the ongoing talks of mandating the vaccine to the point of door to door strike forces enforcing it I’d really be concerned had I taken it already. What the hell is in this concoction they so desperately want everyone to take? It’s not about 70% anymore when they are openly talking about door to door canvassing.

The government is not that concerned about anyone’s health. I promise you that.


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July 07, 2021, 07:18 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
What the hell is in this concoction they so desperately want everyone to take?
It's called Conspiracy Theory 7/7/2021.

Let's not get silly.
quote:
The government is not that concerned about anyone’s health. I promise you that.
They're making a huge deal out of reaching a meaningless goal. It's easy for them to concentrate on this, and not the actual, pressing problems of this nation. Dog and pony show, that's all.
July 07, 2021, 07:21 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
If you object to door to door vaccination crews, you are a national security risk.
I figure I was already assigned that label.


Good chance a lot of us are one one list or another.



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Sic Semper Tyrannis
July 07, 2021, 07:50 PM
HRK
quote:
Ah...The media is tipping their hand again.


Just who the hell is Dan Primyassopin, never heard of this guy, and wtf is Axios, its like hey I have a web page so I'll just start a a news agency.

Why the hell do people give these douchnozzles any time, no click, no views and maybe they'll just fade away
July 07, 2021, 07:52 PM
erj_pilot
So did the government go door-to-door for...
Whooping Cough?
Polio?
Rubella?
Diphtheria?
Tetanus?
.
.
.
.

Didn't think so.



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July 07, 2021, 07:56 PM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
quote:
Ah...The media is tipping their hand again.


Just who the hell is Dan Primyassopin, never heard of this guy, and wtf is Axios, its like hey I have a web page so I'll just start a a news agency.

Why the hell do people give these douchnozzles any time, no click, no views and maybe they'll just fade away


LOL. Axios is one of the major news outlets now. Jack Posobiec is a reporter.

If Axios is saying this, the rest of the media will be saying it - they move in lockstep. Posobiec is one of the few conservative reporters out there - he is just reporting what they are saying and giving a heads up on what the narrative is. Ignoring it will not in any way make it go away.



“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams
July 07, 2021, 08:00 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
So did the government go door-to-door for...
Whooping Cough?
Polio?
Rubella?
Diphtheria?
Tetanus?
.
.
.
.

Didn't think so.


Of course not, because they didn't need to. Those diseases were actually something to be scared of.


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July 07, 2021, 08:04 PM
.38supersig
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Four out of five dentists recommend Trident chewing gum. I wonder what's wrong with that fifth sumbitch? He probably ain't vaccinated, neither.


He gots no teef an kudnt git tu da fone.