When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
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Originally posted by BlackTalonJHP: This panoramic paranoia has driven Para into using paronomasia
That is an epic post. I am impressed.
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March 07, 2020, 07:32 PM
ensigmatic
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Originally posted by parabellum: Yeah, gotta have some fiber in there.
Each morning, have a hearty bowl of oats with dried fruit...
I first read that as "a hearty bowl of cats..." and thought "what...?"
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
March 07, 2020, 08:23 PM
Balzé Halzé
More than likely, this virus is already everywhere and probably has been for quite some time, which is why all this irrational behavior like canceling vacations and work conferences is completely pointless. And declaring a state of emergency when one confirmed case pops up in your state...My god. All we're doing is wrecking the economy and hurting people for nothing. People are dying? Spare me. My wife's grandparents who are in their early nineties both right now have the flu. We're obviously concerned for them. Point being, there are many, many other things on this planet to be worried about that as far as I'm concerned are just as "dangerous" as COVID-19, and no one is drastically altering his or her lifestyle for any of those things. What's happening now is illogical.
For chrissakes, I'm just fed up. Now, all returning crew members to my ship are supposed to have their temperatures taken before boarding as per our new company policy. To what end? So why wasn't this policy always in effect during flu season? Every year people come back to work sick and invariably others onboard get it. I caught something last month while onboard. I got better. Someone else caught it. He got better too.
Ah whatever, I'm done ranting.
I'm flying to Florida Tuesday morning, and the only thing on my mind about that trip is whether or not I'll get my upgrade for the red eye. Pre-takeoff cocktail...very important.
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March 07, 2020, 08:29 PM
Skins2881
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Pre-takeoff cocktail...very important.
This bares repeating.
Hope you have a blast, travel well.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis
March 07, 2020, 08:37 PM
midwest guy
I had just come across this evening that 15% of the healthcare workers in China who contracted COVID 19 needed ICU treatment.
March 07, 2020, 08:38 PM
Scuba Steve Sig
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Originally posted by parabellum:
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL: Maybe there will soon be an APP so you can actually so how far you are from a carrier.
They probably wouldn't let you land anyway.
They would if you had toilet paper, bottled water, and hand sanitizer on board.
March 07, 2020, 08:50 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by Skins2881:
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Pre-takeoff cocktail...very important.
This bares repeating.
Hope you have a blast, travel well.
Thank you.
~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
March 07, 2020, 08:52 PM
Bassamatic
I'm starting to really like this thread.
.....never marry a woman who is mean to your waitress.
March 07, 2020, 08:58 PM
Bisleyblackhawk
It’s the run on toilet paper that will be TEOTWAWKI...just look at the situation in OZ ...WARNING...this is from Ozzyman so its content has some bad words
"we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet
March 07, 2020, 08:58 PM
bubbatime
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Originally posted by jljones: A virus, that has infected a fraction of one percent of the US population in a MONTH’S time is going to take out enough employees of any given power company to take the grid down.
Got it.
A common argument of people that don’t understand that this virus doubles every 6 days, which gives us millions of cases by early May.
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March 07, 2020, 09:25 PM
r0gue
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Originally posted by bubbatime:
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Originally posted by jljones: A virus, that has infected a fraction of one percent of the US population in a MONTH’S time is going to take out enough employees of any given power company to take the grid down.
Got it.
A common argument of people that don’t understand that this virus doubles every 6 days, which gives us millions of cases by early May.
And the number that trails right behind your figure, is the number of people that get better, and are thus "all better now", and go back to work. Buying T-shirts with their paychecks that say, "I survived the zombie apocalypse".
March 07, 2020, 09:31 PM
sigmonkey
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Originally posted by henryaz:
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Originally posted by sigmonkey: I'm more concerned with the chicken heart, I stocked up on lots of jello.
How will you handle the black poisonous snakes?
Mashed taters in the footies of my jammies...
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March 07, 2020, 09:32 PM
Killer
Seems like Italy is having a rough go of this "flu."
Originally posted by jljones: A virus, that has infected a fraction of one percent of the US population in a MONTH’S time is going to take out enough employees of any given power company to take the grid down.
Got it.
A common argument of people that don’t understand that this virus doubles every 6 days, which gives us millions of cases by early May.
Yeah that’s a common argument of people who claim to know how long the virus has actually been around versus media hype.
So, what was the first day the virus infected someone? Not the first reported case, the first day? How about the first case in the United States? Actual case and not just confirmed or reported. How many of those “flu” cases that didn’t test positive for Flu A or B in December were actually this virus? You know before it starting hiding and lurking around to shut down the power grid, or steal all the toilet paper?
Thing about the claims of “doubles” every six days is the lack of actual data that supports those claims. Funny thing is none of the “experts” can say for sure. It’s all speculation. And it’s hard to do math to make claims without all the numbers.
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March 07, 2020, 10:49 PM
46and2
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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
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Originally posted by henryaz:
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Originally posted by sigmonkey: I'm more concerned with the chicken heart, I stocked up on lots of jello.
How will you handle the black poisonous snakes?
Mashed taters in the footies of my jammies...
John has a long moustache?
March 08, 2020, 04:54 AM
asonie
What if a bunch of us go to walmart this week and fill a cart with a random health and beauty item, just to see what happens? Like, what if I start walking around the store with a cart brimming with q-tips for an hour or so? Think I can create an artificial run of my own?
March 08, 2020, 05:05 AM
clubleaf206
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Originally posted by sigmonkey: I'm more concerned with the chicken heart, I stocked up on lots of jello.
That’s only essential if you’re in Philadelphia.
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March 08, 2020, 05:36 AM
PowerSurge
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Originally posted by asonie: What if a bunch of us go to walmart this week and fill a cart with a random health and beauty item, just to see what happens? Like, what if I start walking around the store with a cart brimming with q-tips for an hour or so? Think I can create an artificial run of my own?
Load up your cart with maxi pads. Report back your findings.
——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1
March 08, 2020, 05:40 AM
MNSIG
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Originally posted by jljones: So, what was the first day the virus infected someone? Not the first reported case, the first day? How about the first case in the United States? Actual case and not just confirmed or reported. How many of those “flu” cases that didn’t test positive for Flu A or B in December were actually this virus?
I think you are correct. Many people had a "nasty cold" this winter that never sought treatment. A few more went to the doctor, tested negative for Influenza and were told "It's just some other virus going around".
March 08, 2020, 05:46 AM
BansheeOne
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Originally posted by BansheeOne: No panic buying here so far, and I've seen only two face masks outside medical practices this week; one on an Asian lady, which isn't too unusual at other times. However, there are shortages on masks and disinfectants reported, and I heard a doctor lauding a staffer for ordering the latter along with the former when it was still easy while I was in for my regular skin cancer screening yesterday.
Well, what a difference a week makes. Made pancakes for lunch yesterday, saw that I was running low on flour and thought I should get some new if possible. Sure enough, the shelves for pasta, rice and flour looked like the DDR had made a comeback; in fact there was a note they were currently only selling up to four packs per customer of certain stuff like flour and sugar "due to circumstances". Saw a guy with five sixpacks of water bottles in his cart and thought WTF, are you preparing for the zombie apocalypse? Masks and disinfectants get stolen from hospitals, too - sometimes from stocks only accessible to staff.
I mean I, too, have doubled my usual stocks of daily consumables, which among other things means I'm buying another pack of anything as soon as the last bottle of the first of two is going into the fridge. But even that is already luxury stockpiling just so I don't have to change my habits without bothering anyone else to supply me if I should get quarantined at home for two weeks - it's not like the water will stop running from the tap, and unlike the chlorinated stuff you sometimes have in the US, it's actually readily drinkable without feeling like you swallowed a swimming pool. I think people are falling for global pop culture memes.
In reality we're still doing okay, with zero deaths despite 900-plus cases. One is being reported as critical, a guy who was on immunosuppressiva to prepare for an organ transplant. I think this is still the 47-year-old at the root of the North Rhine-Westphalia cluster who had several hospital appointments prior to being diagnosed and was quickly put on life support. Meanwhile the current flu season in Germany (which officially started in the second week of 2020, quite concurrently with COVID-19) has had an estimated 2.6 million cases seeing a doctor, of which ca. 120,000 confirmed by lab tests, and more than 200 deaths.
Not to speak of the national 2017/18 season, the worst for 30 years, which saw about nine million cases and 25,000 deaths (CFR ca. 0.28 percent). That actually strained the German healthcare system pretty hard (not least because a lot of staff also fell sick), and we definitely don't need another similar sickness on top of that. Saw an expert warn we should increase the number of intensive care beds to prepare for a comeback of COVID-19 in fall after a decline in summer. What everybody wants to avoid is a concentrated spike overwhelming the system, so the countermeasures actually make sense despite the economic damage - a customer (caterer) told me last week that cancellation of the International Tourism Fair (since done) would be a real hit to the Berlin service sector.
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